I was just coming here to post about it, I really hope they improve the color scheme, it looks pretty ugly in these early renderings. Not sure about the design either but the bland color scheme might be influencing my opinion too much.

 

So they're reaching into the discard bin for the new show? Isn't that basically the Ralph McQuarrie Enterprise (complete with asteroid spacedock) from the early pre-pro to Star Trek The Motion Picture?

I mean, OK, fine, whatever, but really?

 

Totally, and uh... pass, this is a fugly Enterprise.
there's a reason it wasn't used for STTMP.
The reason is still valid.

 

So, JJprise haters...not looking so bad now, is it? :grin2:

 

Uh, the ship is the USS Discovery, not the Enterprise.

The more I look at it the less I like it, I doubt that will change with better coloring, I think the nacelles being in line with the lower triangular deck is what makes it look so cheesy, at least the McQuarrie design still had short vertical pylons holding the nacelles, like the Galaxy Class ships ended up being like. Also there are too many straight lines, Federation designs should have curves...

 

Nice if they wouldn't charge us to watch it!


-Jim G.G.

 

Oofdah! That side profile makes me gag a little bit.

 

Nexus25 reminding us that the McQuarrieprise appeared in STIII....
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Perhaps this hints at the time period.

 

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As for the U.S.S. Discovery, I never thought I'd live to see the day when the NCC-1701-D was the second ugliest Starfleet ship in the Star Trek universe. It's not just ugly, it's Sofa King ugly.

 

Yeah...think I'll keep watching Star Trek Continues...until CBS/Paramount makes them pull the plug, that is. I would have been perfectly fine with CBS giving Vic M. & his crew the budget for Discovery and let them finish out the original 5 year mission.

 

Given that fans totally lose their $hmit whenever The Force Awakens or Rebels hauled out old McQuarrie designs, can anyone really blame the producers for giving the McQuarrieprise an update? Geek nostalgia, people! It's all about nostalgia these days (Jurassic World, The Force Awakens, etc.etc.), not original ideas. Of course they made the ship the McQuarrieprise, including asteroid cave dry dock. It's an homage, dotcha know. What, you're going to criticize the great McQuarrie?!?! Turn in your geek credentials and 12-sided dice, nerd!

 

What, you're going to criticize the great McQuarrie?!?!

Absolutely. This ship is ugly af.

McQuarrie's style is great for Star Wars, but does not belong in Trek.

 

All I can say is... Bwahahahahahahahaha!

 

Fuller Announces New Series Titled ?Star Trek Discovery? Set in Prime Timeline UPDATED ? TrekMovie.com
UDPATES: During the subsequent press interviews producer Heather Kadin exclusively told Trekmovie.com that the design for the U.S.S. Discovery is not final.

 

Oh wow. Man, you know, I just...

OK. Look. Stuff costs money. All the work that went into that 'teaser', that's money. Design, rendering, animating, that's all money. I know it looks like something cranked out by someone's home computer but it's not, they probably threw a couple of million Dollars at some group to get that.

And THEN they say it's not the final design? What, they're gonna change the color on (what I would believe to be) the impulse engines, or maybe dump the bronze-seeming color, or plate over the 'salad shooter in a wok' upper saucer?

Or just make a whole new ship?

I swear, these people. Do they even know how to make a TV show?

If you wanted to make a teaser clip you could have taken that same background, that asteroid dock, and put the words 'Star Trek' in the slip, and flown THAT out, and people would have gone "coooooool!" and everybody happy.

 

This is why they went after Axanar. Jealousy.

 

No, it's because asinine Axanar people broke the law.

 

I love the smell of a good fanboy freakout in the morning. :nerd:

I'll give the show and the ship a chance, because it's way too early to really know anything. The fact that Trek is back on TV is good. The Trek concept works best on TV and I like that they're going to tell new stories with a new crew rather than doing some sort of nostalgia reboot. That said, that the show's acronym is "STD" is hilarious. They were obviously trying to capture Trek's essence of exploration and seeking out new knowledge, but c'mon, producers need to think these things through.

 

It's not a freakout for me so much as just head scratching. Really odd design choice for the ship, followed by that statement "well, it's not final", then, yes, STD is the acronym for the show and geeze, shoot the OTHER foot guys.

And I'm sure I'm not the only fanboy who groaned a bit on that 'sun/planet/object' stacking ala 2001. "geddit, fanboys? DISCOVERY? HUH? Aren't we soooooo clever? huh? SEE?"

Did I miss the cast announcements and who is writing for the show and who the showrunner is (we used to just call that guy 'producer' in the old days)? That stuff is kinda important to, you know, actually make a show...

 

They couldn't show up to San Diego empty handed with it being the 50th and all for Trek.
I think this was hey, this is our ship design we have zeroed in on, and intro'ing the name of the show when the lights turn on to reveal it on the saucer.

So I expect the design will be refined but I do not expect big changes.
I worry more about story content and those things, I am just grateful it is all in the Prime-verse.
So even if you hate the McQuarrie ship, there will be others on the show I'm sure. We always get lots of new ships.

 

The low registry number may mean that the ship has been around for many decades. This *could* mean the seasonal anthology series idea they've discussed will use the same ship in different time periods of the prime universe which is something I''d personally like to see since it would be an interesting departure from most ST series and allow a lot more flexibility in terms of story telling.

So far, however, according to the Wiki entry, we only know that it will be "a single story arc across the entire first season" but that could mean that it's got different characters being concentrated on from season to season but all set within the same time period. I'm hoping they push the envelope on changing things up between seasons.

As for the design, I've always liked it after a fashion. Looks like they took away my main complaint about the McQuarrie design: the nacelles didn't seem to work in the ST universe as originally rendered y McQ. The way they're shown in the video works for me, however.

On the other hand, I'm not a fan of the USS Frank Lin look of the depressed area on the top of the primary hull.

 

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On the other hand, I'm not a fan of the USS Frank Lin look of the depressed area on the top of the primary hull.

My guess is the saucer section may separate different from what we are used to, more of a donut lifeboat sort of shape leaving the central section and bridge attached to the engineering section.

At first I saw that design feature and got worried it was going to be JJ Trek verse and thankfully they mercifully tweeted quickly otherwise.

My hope is they let the usual series suspects that have worked on the shows forever...tweak the ship and refine it into fitting better into the prime-verse ship legacy.

 

Registry should be in the three digit range.

Otherwise, I like it.

 

As I read on Facebook .... "As long as they don't call the show ST-D"

 

Officially they are saying it's "DSC".

 

They can "officially" give it whatever acronym they want, people are still going to call it STD. If it's an immediate hit, they'll call it that affectionately. If it's a bomb, they'll use it derisively.

When I first saw the article announcing the title, I mistakenly told my wife the show was called "Star Trek Destiny." She responded, "They're giving Star Trek stripper names now? Does the new bridge have a pole?":laugh:

 

I don't mind the new ship at that much- not my favorite design but it does look like early Star Fleet. The only things that perplex me about the design is the weird fan grill around the saucer top and the three eyed bussards.
I have the feeling this is the first ship called 'Discovery' (although be may see an NX class on the ancestor wall somewhere). The way they seem to describe the series, I think we will see a number of refit/variations of this ship- a TOS, a TNG, other time periods where they same basic configuration will be about the same but it will reflect the current state of the art of technology in different time periods.

 

I will say this much. Given that many feel one of the early Jefferies designs for the TOS Enterprise, the 'ball and cylinders' ship that has generally been retconn'd into canon as the Daedalus class is the predecessor of the Constitution class StarShip, they really dodged a bullet there.

I mean, given the 2001 homage the clip starts with, can you imagine the howls of laughter if the ship, the hero of the show, the first image was that big ol' ball of a primary hull with 'Discovery' plastered on it?

*whew*

(because, see, if they were really going to play around in 'original timeline' it would be logical for that ship to be...ahhhh, you can figure it out. )

 

I know it's early but...

Am I the only one who thinks the animation itself looks incredibly phony? It looks like it's full motion video from a ST game 20 years ago.

 

It does, but I'm not sure how much better it's going to get on a TV budget. This show is going to be expensive. I doubt it'd even rise to the level of TOS-R quality and that's a fairly low bar.

 

I think this guy did a good job with the McQuarrie-esk design.

McQuarrie-esk design

 

That is a more pleasing design than this Discovery preview.

 

And man does the space dock image look like the teaser!

Check out the space dock image

 

The design is actually starting to grow on me, but I understand it is still in development. The teaser was an early prototype so we may see many further changes before the series. That may explain the cheaper look of it as well.

 

The saucer reminds me of the saucer from The Thing.

Greg

 

The only thing with the design that feels off for me is that the saucer to engineering section relationship is reversed. What is classed as the primary hull? With that much bulk in the lower decks is the saucer even required or just a throw back saying "Oh but it wouldn't be Star Trek (Starfleet design) without a saucer"

Half the FASA designs were better than that and the other half had the same problem

Having said that if the story is there it wouldn't matter as much what it looked like