I'm seeing broken links for the pictures.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. Links should work now. :thumbsup:

 

That is pretty neat.

 

OK, that's got my interest. That is a very realistic looking take on the subject.

 

The 1/200 scale AMT Saturn 1B second stage/ Saturn V third stage would be a good starting place for the tank section ahead of the NERVA engines. The Titan second stage from the same AMT Rocket set combined with parts of the Saturn V First stage engines would be a good start for the NERVA engine assemblies.
Of course using those parts the scale would be wrong, the model would be 25 to 30 inches long.
Now that I have seen this, I want to build it.

 

The 1/200 scale AMT Saturn 1B second stage/ Saturn V third stage would be a good starting place for the tank section ahead of the NERVA engines. The Titan second stage from the same AMT Rocket set combined with parts of the Saturn V First stage engines would be a good start for the NERVA engine assemblies.

Sounds like we're on the same wavelength! :wave:

Now that I have seen this, I want to build it.

I know, right? Build one with me!

 

Parts suggestions?

So, the propellant tanks supplying the NERVA engines will be the S-IVB 3rd stage of the AMT 1/200 Saturn V, both because it's about the right size, and because I already have 3 kits. I'll use the F-1 rocket engines and modify them accordingly.

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to build/where to buy something similar to the framework between the propulsion module and the crew module?

 

So, the propellant tanks supplying the NERVA engines will be the S-IVB 3rd stage of the Airfix 1/144 Saturn V, both because it's about the right size, and because I already have 3 kits. I'll use the F-1 rocket engines and modify them accordingly.

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to build/where to buy something similar to the framework between the propulsion module and the crew module?

It looks like a Space 1999 Eagle frame work may work for this.

 

Very nice. I would guess if Star Trek was made today, this is more like what the Botany Bay would have looked like.

 

DY-100 outfitted for Mars explration.

Apparently, the original designer, Paul Davies, decided to make a version outfitted for a trip to Mars, complete with a lifting body RV, and a number of capsules as well.

There are some excellent elevations of that version here.

 

Progress report

The trusswork and the tankage within will be "borrowed" from the Revell Germany 1/144 ISS. The hull front end is from the Bronco 1/350 Seawolf fast attack sub (since the scale of the finished model will be 1/350, it can easily be postulated that the forward sections of the subs were recycled into spacecraft).

I'll post some pictures tomorrow of the "model kit" that I've put together along with a parts list for anyone else interested.

 

The parts I'm scavenging come from these model kits:

They are:

Bronco 1/350 Seawolf, kit # NB5001
Revell (Germany) 1/144 International Space Station, kit # 04841
AMT 1/200 Man in Space Rocket Collection, kit # 30037 (x2)

Below is an elevation of the original DY-100, blown up to 1/350 scale. It works out to just over 12". I am still picking
through looking for the perfect parts for much of it, but as you can see, The Seawolf is perfect for the main hull.

The engine pod lying to the right, is what I think a follow-on NERVA engine would look like if produced in the late '90s -
NERVA II, as it were. It still needs more detail, but that's the core of it.

The rocket motor itself is composed of the lower part of an F1 engine, the command/service module (without the nose
cap for the capsule), and one of the J2 nozzles for the Saturn V 2nd stage. I'll go into more detail on that later.

The propellant tank is the S-IVB stage of the Saturn. There will be 3 NERVA II/propellant tank assemblies, side by side,
for propulsion. I'd like something a bit smaller for the propellant tanks, but I can't think of anything the right size that I have 3 of...

I'll have all the parts sorted after the weekend hopefully. Stay tuned for the rest of the story.

 

It's the first time I've looked at the Botany Bay and thought it looked good.

 

The NERVA II core engine cluster. Obviously, a great deal of detailing lies ahead.

As noted previously, al these parts are from the AMT 1/200 Man In Space kit. These parts are used:

1) J2 engine nozzle from Saturn V second stage
2) apollo capsule and heat shield from Saturn V or 1B (nose cap of capsule not used)
3) Apollo service module
4) engine skirt from the Saturn V F1 engines

I will be building a combination radiation shield / frame which wraps around the front and sides. That framework will also contain maneuvering thrusters, and the deployed heat radiators.

 

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...I am clustering the engine and fuel tank assemblies...

I saw your pics, very nice. I actually prefer the way you're doing them, but I'm trying to stay within the (very) general layout of the original design. It'll be cool to see where our two imaginations take this thing.

 

Another update

Here is the DY-100A partially assembled and laid out to give an idea how it will eventually look.

The hull section from the 1/350 Seawolf turned out nicely as far as size and fit are concerned. The numbered sections were lifted from the 1/144 ISS kit. The part numbers are:

1) parts #101 & 102

2) parts # 77 and 78

I trimmed the front 5/8" off assembly 1 so it would fit better with the Seawolf hull.

I am going to custom design the cargo pods to fit the cylindrical shape, rather than the awkwardly shaped ones on the studio miniature. They've just never looked right to me. I'll put up a sketch of what I have in mind soon.

I'm still not happy using the 1/200 S-IVBs as propellant tanks. They just seem too fat to me (they're almost 1-1/2" diameter). Does anybody have an idea what I could use that would be about 1" dia. instead?

 

Schematics - request for input

This is how I decided to make the cargo pods - let me know what you think.

Also, after sleeping on it, I finally put my finger on why the NERVA propellant tanks were bugging me. It wasn't their size, it was that they just didn't look even remotely like Botany Bay propulsion section. So I came up with something that I think accomplishes that while still looking like something that might have really been designed in the late '90s.

Please let me know what you think, and feel free to contribute any ideas or critiques on either piece.

 

Wow! This is an amazing concept. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

I concur!

 

So, once I got started in my Canvas drawing program, it was hard to stop. Here's what the DY-100A should look like, more or less, when it's finished:

It scales out to 452ft. That's about 100' longer than Botany Bay, but I can live with that. (Maybe I'll shorten the distance between the cargo pods and the propulsion section?)

I'm starting to get excited about this - I think it's gonna turn out looking pretty nice!

 

From a purely artistic point of view I'd suggest to lengthen the cargo section even more to fit one additional set of containers.

 

This is getting really cool lookin'!

 

No Weyland-Yutani containers? Everyone's gonna make it back in one piece on this ship, then... :devil:

This is going to be freaking fantastic when it's done!

 

No Weyland-Yutani containers? Everyone's gonna make it back in one piece on this ship, then...!

Hmmm...well, I'll need more for the other side of the model. How about this?

I'm working on the master pattern for the containers right now. As soon as I have some interesting pix to share, I'll put'em up.

 

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Star Trek: Into Darkness REVEALED

Hey, I think we may have stumbled upon the actual plotline of ST:ID!

The movie opens with our heroes saving some primitive aliens from a cataclysmic volcanic eruption in a way that violates the prime directive while earning the entire crew a Presidential Unit Citation. After taking a victory lap through the ocean of the alien world, Enterprise, tipped off via subspace by the elder Spock, intercepts Botany Bay in deep space in order to prevent the whole Khan mess from happening.

Unbeknownst to them, a cargo container full of xenomorphs had long ago cracked open, allowing them to impregnate most of Khan's "supermen," though Khan seems to be missing. Upon beaming them aboard, the crew starts disappearing a few at a time, then...the alien warriors appear.

The Enterprise crew desperately tries to save the ship, and Earth, fighting heroically to the last redshirt. Finally, with all hope lost, the crew all dead or cocooned, Enterprise falls from of orbit and, out of control, crashes in San Francisco Bay, taking a substantial portion of the City by the Bay with her. As the dust begins to settle, the camera zooms in on "John Harrison" climbing from the rubble, surveying the destruction, and saying evilly, "Perhaps I've found a different hell in which to rule..." We hear a scream in the distance as an alien warrior finds its first Earth victim. On a minor chord, we fade to black, and...credits. :tongue:

 

:tongue: indeed!
:lol:

 

PLEASE READ: I would appreciate your input.

While I was working on the master for the cargo containers there was just something that bugged me about the shape. From an industrial design perspective, it's not practical - they wouldn't stack well, etc.

So, I thought about another shape that would go with the storage idea, and be practical, and I came up with this:

I think it's a better design, because they can be stacked or latched together from any side, not matter which end is pointing where. If fact, I liked this design so much that I created a corporate logo for it's fictional manufacturer:

having said all that, I'd like your input. Which container do you like better?

And if you like #1 better, do you think it should be shorter, like #2, or long, as first designed? For reference, here's how they would look on the ship:

Thanks for taking the time to give your input.

 

Container #1, long version.

Looking really good! :thumbsup:

 

I like the original shape better, #2.

By the way, nice job on the logo... reminds me of Gamesters of Triskelion.

 

By the way, nice job on the logo... reminds me of Gamesters of Triskelion.

I knew that logo looked familiar.

DAMN. And here I was so proud of myself for coming up with something original. I guess there truly is nothing new under the sun.:freak: