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Tintoys was also based in Hong Kong. They first began to appear in the 1970s. Their logo is noticable different from the ones DTC or Tins' Toys used on their casting line up. Although they do share some of the same similar castings in their respective castng ranges - really only about 25% of the known models overlap with each other. The primary difference between is the use of a 'WT' numbering prefix on Tintoys plastic bases and a 'T' on Tins' Toy models.

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During the 1970s, their "Diecast Sports Car Fast Wheels" series of race cars were available on blister cards. They were also available in window boxes but called "Fast-Speed Wheels Die-Cast Mini Sedan". Their packaging noted a 'doll driver' was included in each race car. They were also fitted with fast-speed wheels, chrome plated hub-caps and exhaust pipes. They were finished in brightly colored metallic paints with sticker type decorations. A four pack set of these early race car castings was also available.

Another issued series was called "Models of Classic Cars". These were of a larger scale and measured around 3.75" in length from end to end.

A military series called "Die-Cast Armored Car" models was also available. They are noted to have been geared toward enthusiasts who wanted an authentically detailed casting for accurate realism. These had tan colored wheels and are done in a noticeably smaller scale than other Tintoy models available at the time.

The "Mini Coach" (and "Bus") series was made up of buses said to be copies of Matchbox and Tomica castings. Some of these same copies were used within another series of castings that were fitted with an internal pencil sharpener and were called appropiately enough "Mini Cars Pencil Sharpener".

Not all 'WT' prefixed models were issued just by Tintoys though. Others who were offered them were EFS* and Imperial Toy Company as "Might Mini". K-Mart* also offered them (Tintoys (?) at their American store locations. And Lido Products marketed Tintoys 'WT' military tanks.

In the early 1980s, Arkin A-OK Products Co of Markham, Ontario and its subsidiarys marketed 'WT' castings in their "Speed Wheels" and "Military Speed Wheels" series.

Canadian Tire issued a promotional tractor-trailer rig numbered as 'WT707' in the early 1980s.

IMCO was a New York based company that marketed Tintoys made military castings with the "WT" prefixed base numbers as "Attack Force". They also marketed the their racing and sport cars as "Speed Wheels".

In the mid 1980s, Lash-Tamaron added their brand identification label to Tintoys' "Fast Wheels" blister carded offerings.

In 1984, Soma issued a series with 'WT' prefixed base numbered models in their own (2) pack offerings known as "Speed Wheel".

Although no official evidence of a true association is known to Tins' Toys - they do share many (really only about 25%) of the same casting models. And Tins' Toys carries the casting number prefix of 'T' though. They were available from Kingsbury** (Kingsway**), a distributor, during this same time period.

Several "WT" models continued production under High Speed***, another Hong Kong diecast maker. These models are cast with a new numbering system that is arbitrary (?) to collectors.

Up to the late 2000s Tintoys was still in business. Several large-scale models were available with faithful reproduction to actual vehicles. Several examples were available at the Western States Toy & Hobby Show held in (?) at Pomona, California. But, it was not known which firms were to market or distribute those examples. Other large-scale models were also available, often with poor detail quality. They could be found in open displays with models from other manufacturers mixed in together with them.

*The diecast encyclopedia references 'WT' prefixed #ed castings as being made by Tintoys. But, the EFS listing attributes them to having being made by Universal and Welly. While the Universal reference does have an assocation to EFS' "Super Whels"; it does not have the corresponding 'WT' prefix reference. Welly also has a brand asscoation listing to EFS, but no reference to the 'WT' # prefix system eiher. Note here that the reference for Universal is for the circled U logo only. Both the Tintoys and WT reference also ask you to see EFS as well.

** The reference made in the diecast encyclopedia notes to see Kingsbury also. However; their is no additional entry for Kingsbury. There is though an entry for an American based dirstributor named Kingsway. That entry unfortunantly also mistakenly identifies them as Tintoys with a 'T' prefixed castings and not as Tins' Toys. Adding further to the confusing information is that this same entry goes on to mention that the same castings models - only marked as 'WT' prefixed #ed castings were also marketed by K-Mart. (Perhaps this is were the notion that Tintoys and Tins' Toys are the same or related began?)

***Note that High Speed does not carry a corresponding reference to 'WT' prefixed castings either.



Sourced references -

https://www.hobbydb.com/subjects/tintoys-brand
https://www.hobbydb.com/subjects/tins-toys-brand
Encyclopedia of Small-Scale Diecast Motor Vehicle Manufacturers - Sahakangas, Foster & Weber (2006)
https://www.planetdiecast.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=88214:tintoys-a-tins-toys&catid=13
 

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Today, I seperated Tintoys and Tins' Toy based on references made at other sources and the conflicting information noted by the diecast encyclopedia. An additional reference for DTC was also added which tends to support the seperation of these two companies. Their indiviual brand assocations and information was also added to each hisory.

It would also be nice to see a comparision of the two casting lists and their overlap and which castings are exactly the same.

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