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If the inflation calculator is correct (and it isn't really--it's rough at best and doesn't really capture the real (higher) rates of inflation) at the current cost of $26.99, the model would have cost c. $4.00 in 1970. Of course, there are mitigating factors of super cheap Chinese labor driving the price down some and the fact that it might be a limited-run, specialty model kit which might drive the kit price higher.
 

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Last week, when Atlantis mentioned releasing classic Monogram snap kits, I was hoping it would be the Snoopy kits, but figured it would probably be some car kits. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong.

Had 3 of the Snoopy kits when I was a kid, all lost over time. I can't wait to finally get another Sopwith Camel after all these years. Hopefully, Atlantis will reissue the Bugatti and motorcycle kits too.

Regarding cost, as mentioned, you have to take into account inflation. Every kit from the 50's - 80's is more costly then when originally released. I remember when Moebius reissued the Aurora Monster Scene kits, charging $19 to $25 for each, and how some people bitched about the price. But, a quick check on eBay for the originals showed the kits, if you could find them, cost anywhere between $350 to $500, depending on condition.

And so it is with the Snoopy kits, currently on eBay there are 2 Sopwith Camel kits, both assembled, neither having a working motor, and no box or instructions, costing between $100 - $160. Yeah, I'd say Atlantis's list price of $30 for a new, unbuilt kit with working motor, is more then worth the price.
 

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As far as the non working motors in the vintage kits it is usually a simple fix unless the motor is completely rusted. Make sure the brass battery clip is clean and shiny and the motor housing is clean where the battery clip contacts it. Add a few drops of alcohol into the end of the motor where the brushes are (the end that contacts the battery). With the propeller in place spin the prop by hand in both directions for about a minute. This usually breaks up any corrosion on the internal contacts. Install the battery and give it a spin, give it a few tries and if it does not start remove and reinstall the battery backwards, spin the prop backwards, it will usually start and run backward, let it run for a few minutes. Stop it and put the battery back in correctly, give it a spin, it should start and run.
In a few cases I had to go into the motor and clean the commutator and brushes with Rail Zip. In one motor I actually had to solder in a new brush because one of the old ones had corroded away. I fixed 8 of these little motors over the years with no problems, I had one other one that the armature had been cooked, I know for a fact that the motor had been run with a 9V battery until it stopped (I was a destructive little brat when I was a kid).
 

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As far as the non working motors in the vintage kits it is usually a simple fix unless the motor is completely rusted. Make sure the brass battery clip is clean and shiny and the motor housing is clean where the battery clip contacts it. Add a few drops of alcohol into the end of the motor where the brushes are (the end that contacts the battery). With the propeller in place spin the prop by hand in both directions for about a minute. This usually breaks up any corrosion on the internal contacts. Install the battery and give it a spin, give it a few tries and if it does not start remove and reinstall the battery backwards, spin the prop backwards, it will usually start and run backward, let it run for a few minutes. Stop it and put the battery back in correctly, give it a spin, it should start and run.
In a few cases I had to go into the motor and clean the commutator and brushes with Rail Zip. In one motor I actually had to solder in a new brush because one of the old ones had corroded away. I fixed 8 of these little motors over the years with no problems, I had one other one that the armature had been cooked, I know for a fact that the motor had been run with a 9V battery until it stopped (I was a destructive little brat when I was a kid).
That's all well and good, but the point I was making is that the Atlantis reissue of the Snoopy Sopwith Camel, at a list price of $30, is a good deal considering the price of a built original at $100 to $160. Sure, you could get the motor to work, or source another one, but it's still expensive. Again, I think anyone complaining about the price of the Atlantis reissue should be happy that they can get the kit for far less then the original sells on eBay.
 

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That's all well and good, but the point I was making is that the Atlantis reissue of the Snoopy Sopwith Camel, at a list price of $30, is a good deal considering the price of a built original at $100 to $160. Sure, you could get the motor to work, or source another one, but it's still expensive. Again, I think anyone complaining about the price of the Atlantis reissue should be happy that they can get the kit for far less then the original sells on eBay.
I completely agree, I just put the motor info out there for anyone who may already have an original where the motor does not work anymore. I plan on buying at least one of each of these kits as they are released.
 

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I'd completely forgotten about the Snoopy kits! My dad built the Sopwith Camel and the Bugatti. They were on our living room shelf for years! I didn't know there were others. What were they?
 

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I'd completely forgotten about the Snoopy kits! My dad built the Sopwith Camel and the Bugatti. They were on our living room shelf for years! I didn't know there were others. What were they?
There was also the Red Baron in his plane, Snoopy and Woodstock on a sidecar motorcycle along with the Sopwith Camel, Bugatti and Ice Rink.
 

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Don't forget the Snoopy surfing kit! I had the plane, the Bugatti and the surfing kits in the '70's, gave them all to GoodWill when we moved to a new house 3 years ago.

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Does anyone know if the original Snoopy Bugatti and Motorcycle kits had battery covers on them?
 
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