Compare apples to appples? How about this. I used to run 1/8 nitro offroad for years and have spent hundreds and hundreds on .21 nitro motors. Some last a few gallons others last several. And I ran the OS speed. One of the TOP race nitro engines out there. Price 499.99 on amain hobbies. And thats just one motor. I have had several different brands as well. So to spend it in 1/4 scale isnt really that bad for a higher end race engine if it can knock tenths off and last for years. Which they do. 1/4 scale needs to wake up and realize the guys going fast arnt using vintage and cheap servos, radios, batteries, motors, or cars.... And with that said I WILL join the PREDATOR club in due time. Only because I drove one on the clock and I was faster then with my car . And my car is becoming the vintage old school type. Works good but if people want to stay up front they need to stay up front with the equipment they use. Not saying everyone feels the same and I know theyres guys that will disagree. But the results of races speak for them selves.