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According to Brick Price's webpage, you can RENT the Phase II Enterprise.

Someone should call and see how much that would cost.

If someone rented it, it could be photo documented and measured. ....for uh posterity.
 

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If IDIC and others are correct in identifying the model, it has been altered substantially from its original configuration to make it more closely resemble the movie version.

What would be great is if Price would devolve it to the point where it resembled what was, at the time, determined to be its appearance on Phase II. Perhaps he could even lend a hand in determining if there'd have been a deflector dish like the STOS version or not. :thumbsup:
 

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Yeah, it's been changed a lot, but it would still be a great thing to examine and measure it. It's major components are probably essentially the same, and even certain small details might be original.
 

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Richard Compton said:
Yeah, it's been changed a lot, but it would still be a great thing to examine and measure it. It's major components are probably essentially the same, and even certain small details might be original.
Very true! No argument here.

I'd like to see it restored, preferably by Price, to a Phase II configuration. I think that would make the model a lot more valuable to those who may be interested in the history of the ship.

What is his website URL?
 

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Anybody with any good picture/history links on the Phase II model/series, I'd love to see those too, in addition to Brick Price's url.
 

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Richard Compton said:
http://www.wonderworksweb.com/

The rentals page doesn't mention it but when you go to the spot where they show the model, there's a code by it. Someone should call and see if it is in fact possible to rent it and for how long/much?
Yeah! I agree!

I nominate YOU! :jest:
 

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Does anyone know where i can find some good, clear pitures of the Abel TMP version or the full on Phase 2 version, either on the net or in print?

If Polar Lights do the TOS Enterprise in 1:350 as well as the refit, i see some serious kitbashing on this subject!
 

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The original conept for the Phase II Enterprise was that the saucer wouild be largely untouched from the original series (just a change in the bridge and a few other minor touches), with the bulk of the changes taking place with the secondary hull and the warp nacelles.

Stick a TOS saucer on a TMP secondary hull, and you get the general idea.
 

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I have photographed the model extensively from just about every angle. As I stated before, she's not much to see close up. The detailing is quite poor and very cheesy looking in person. It would have been much better had the model been finished in the original Phase II configuration, rather than extensively modified in a lame attempt to duplicate the look of the Magicam model.

Since the original fibreglass molds still exist, it would make more sense for someone to make another casting and finish the duplicate as originally designed by Matt Jefferies for Phase II, as the original casting SHOULD have been.
 

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I agree. I'd love to see a complete Phase II Enterprise. I also wouldn't mind having a model of it myself ... I've thought of converting one of my existing models, but I'm still unclear on a lot of things (like the contour of the Photon Tubes, the main deflector, colors, lighting and hull markings).

It would make for a very interesting conversation piece ... The ship that never was.
 

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Dissenting view here. :)

I suppose I'm one of the few who is rather glad we got the TMP refit version of the design even though it doesn't reflect the TOS E's lines more. I just find the Phase II version looks awkward overall particularly in the engine support pylons and warp nacelles.
 

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I'm kind of suspicious of the originality of that Brick Price model. I have some screen caps from a show( I can't remember which) that shows the or a Phase II being modified to look like the TMP version.

There is a David Kimble cutaway poster on the wall which make sense as to when it was done.

What makes me suspicious is:

The model had been greatly disassembled. There is just an incomplete secondary hull, dorsal, and nacelle pylons and oddly there were none of the three deflector thingies that go around the deflector dish... just empty 'slots' where the Phase II's should have already been glued.

To me it would suggest that either he, for whatever reason, took it completely apart or another was built from the molds he still possessed at the time.

Here are the caps. I would have posted these last night but I had to hunt for them. I'll let you guys decide.

Inconsistent ??? Pic 01
Inconsistent ??? Pic 02
Inconsistent ??? Pic 03
Inconsistent ??? Pic 04
Inconsistent ??? Pic 05
Inconsistent ??? Pic 06

Enjoy!

-James
 
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