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All you Pontiac Experts, and all our other knowledgeable collectors. I used to own a 1972 Pontiac Lemans GT. This car came from the factory with a 400 cube engine, 4 speed tranny, full dual exhaust, 390 posi rear, etc. It was Yellow exterior with a white interior/black carpet. Car had a bench seat, Shifter had a nice factory angle to clear properly. Factory rear spoiler on the decklid, and a unique stripe down both sides of the car---Stripe looked black in the daylight, but it had gold reflective sparkle which made it appear gold at night with headlights shining on it! I am planning on duplicating this car in 1/64th, was curious if anybody recalls seeing this option? Does anybody know how rare it was, and where would I find out more information on this PontiacThanks, Al.
 

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Al Markin said:
All you Pontiac Experts, and all our other knowledgeable collectors. I used to own a 1972 Pontiac Lemans GT. This car came from the factory with a 400 cube engine, 4 speed tranny, full dual exhaust, 390 posi rear, etc. It was Yellow exterior with a white interior/black carpet. Car had a bench seat, Shifter had a nice factory angle to clear properly. Factory rear spoiler on the decklid, and a unique stripe down both sides of the car---Stripe looked black in the daylight, but it had gold reflective sparkle which made it appear gold at night with headlights shining on it! I am planning on duplicating this car in 1/64th, was curious if anybody recalls seeing this option? Does anybody know how rare it was, and where would I find out more information on this PontiacThanks, Al.
Hi Al, it sounds like a pretty rare car. Not too many GT or GT-37's are out their. Your cars codes would have been 2D37 (2 dr. hdtp 6 pass.) Of the 2D37's, 80,383 were made, but this does not give us the GTor GT-37 numbers.
By the sounds of it you had some big change options on the car.
Standard would have been three speed, G70x14 white letter tires, body color mirrors, rally 2 w/o rings, vinyl tape stripes, dual exhaust w/side splitters and "GT" decals.
Their were 4 optional 400's that year.
Although not run of the mill, it is rare but not as rare as the GT's that opted for the 455. I know only a few of those escaped out of the plants.
Plain and simple, too hard to pinpoint exactly that car. I don't think I've ever seen just a GT, I have seen only 4 or 5 GT-37's.
Maybe JK can help out.
Chris
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Feb. 1995 of High Performance Pontiac featured a 1972 Le Mans GT. IF you can find that issue you may be able to get more information for your quest.
Chris
 

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Chris, Sites have quite a bit of info. I determined that my car was the Monarch Yellow, I recall my cars factory mags, What surprised me was that my car didn't have any GTO type nose, hood, or bumper? Flat hood, and standard Lemans front bumper. I'm still looking for more data, However I really appreciate all your help! Thanks, Al.
 

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I posted this question on my Pontiac forum, here is what I recieved...
It was an option on the LeMans V8. It featured the same options as the GT-37 of the previous 2 years except the hood pins (?). HD 3 speed w/floor shift, duel exhaust, chrome exhaust extensions, LH body color mirror, ralley II rims w/o trim ring. G70X14 RWL tires, stripes and badging. If you go to a couple of web sites as there are some pictures there.
http://www.gtoheaven.com
http://www.ultimategto.com

And some discussions on the topic.
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Just go to the find at the top of the forum and type in LeMans GT and it will do the trick.
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Al, if you have any scrap of paperwork left that might still have your car's VIN, you can contact Pontiac Historical with it and get a ton of info, including I believe a copy of the original window sticker and maybe even a copy of the car's "build sheet", which would give you a list of that particular car's original equipment and options. This would give you, for example, the option code for that stripe (which I do recall seeing on Poncho's back then) so you can learn more about it on Pontiac enthusiast's websites. Hope this helps a bit.

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bob8748 Thanks for all the sites! I'm sure that I will find lots of info!

carnut2256 Thanks also, Good idea about the vin, going to go through my old files! I did see the stripe kit for sale on various web sites, Stencils and stripes, $344. I believe?

Again a thanks to all, I'll be busy for a while now I'm sure!
 

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Like SD455 said, I have also seen a few of these cars featured in HIGH PERFORMANCE PONTIAC Magazine. The June 1994, April 1995 and October 1996 issues feature related vehicles and info. You may check their web site for further info. Carnut 2256 has a good point about P.H.S. There is a small fee, but if you have the vin # they can tell you everything about the car as far as options, when and where it was manufactured etc. I may have to check out some of the sites that bob8748 gave info. on, they sound interesting. :wave:
Here are the pics. of the 72 in the Feb. '95 issue of HPP.(I don't think they'll mind if I share them)
 

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*&^%$#$%^&&*!!!!
I dont know how to copy and paste so I hand typed all those in and the all go to main page. Just scroll down to 70-72 GTO Tempest and LeMans Tech, then to "help a hobbiest" and it will come up with working links. I have belonged to this Pontiac forum for over 5 years and can tell you... these guys/gals are the best! You might say I'm a Poncho nut. Three engines on stands "inside my house" (need a garage) just waiting for a car to put one in. My 412 just needs machined and put together, and replace my Holley 800 that someone broke in and stole off of it! Brand new of course. I have it estimated at 535 HP and current plans are to put it in a 87 Camaro. Its out back ready for ladders, frames and floor. Floor and all is completely gone from behind the front seat to rear bumper. Just need axles. Putting a narrowed 12 bolt under it with 456 gears and 16x32's. Been a 5 year project I may give up on. But I'd love to see what that Poncho engine with that HP and car wieght with those gears will do in that F-boby (with 150 hp nitrous).
By the way... Beautiful pics flyin'68 bird
 

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bob8748 said:
You might say I'm a Poncho nut. Three engines on stands "inside my house" (need a garage) just waiting for a car to put one in. My 412 just needs machined and put together...
By the way... Beautiful pics flyin'68 bird
Well, I've got a 68 'Bird just waiting for a fresh engine...I'd be glad to take one of those "extra" engines off your hands. I'm a mechanic myself and am capable of finishing the work on it and I've got about eight Quadrajets setting around that could take the Holleys place. :lol:
Just kidding around, and thanks for the compliment on the pictures. All that I did was scan them from the Feb.'95 issue of HIGH PERFORMANCE PONTIAC Magazine, which states that Donald Elliott was the photographer. :wave:
 

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Thanks again, Great pics! I hope all you guys get your projects completed, 1/1 scale does consume a bit more time and money than the 1/64th scale. You guys talking Firebird, My work buddy has a NHRA certified 9 second Pontiac Powered 1968 Firebird Drag Car. Tons of money invested, he's getting a bit too old to race it, Asking 13 Grand? Staten Island New York. I apologize if I am off topic again!
 

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pontiacs are the best muscle cars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry,,,its just the way it is.
 

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Yeah, that is if you can't have a GS 455 Stage1 :tongue:
Just a SD 455 that will run mid 13's, even WITH 8.0:1 compression. :eek:
Hey, I like those Buicks too. Those stage 1's are fast machines.
 

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By the way, if you're gonna drop that Poncho into an F Body, why a Camaro and not an F bird????
Why not? After all, too many perfectly good Pontiac mills have been set aside for mouse or rat power because the owner was either misinformed about Pontiac engines or had an undue opinion of them(this happens alot with Chevy guys, I know a couple).
 

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Thanks again, Great pics! I hope all you guys get your projects completed, 1/1 scale does consume a bit more time and money than the 1/64th scale. You guys talking Firebird, My work buddy has a NHRA certified 9 second Pontiac Powered 1968 Firebird Drag Car. Tons of money invested, he's getting a bit too old to race it, Asking 13 Grand? Staten Island New York. I apologize if I am off topic again!
Wish I had 13 grand, but I don't even have money for the Bird I've got right now. I thought a house was a better use of my money right now.
 

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Wish I had 13 grand, but I don't even have money for the Bird I've got right now. I thought a house was a better use of my money right now.
Silly boy, do ya have any idea how much $$$ it takes to get a house into the 12's ??? :lol:
 

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Almost ready to give up on the Camaro project, tryin to buy a house myself. But the Camaro was free so...
Besides, be kinda fun to have this killer Camaro and open the hood to find this Poncho sitting in it. Not really an odd ball marriage, even the Pontiac engine is sporting 6.800" big block Chevy rods and rocker studs.
Also trying to restore a 69 Corvair Monza. Then again a Poncho engine in the back seat of the Vair would be kinda cool. Need more money.
 
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