i can only give 6 inches roger. lol!!Thank you Scott and Tim and it has been an enjoyable couple trips down as you say the friendships overcome the racing itself. Lets keep up how we all respect and earn respect on and off the track for each other to show others that this is fun and enjoyable. It is just a toy car race. I greatly appreciate the way everyone is racing and the give and take shown on the track. Ya'll take care and we'll see ya at the Grove.