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I just picked up a Marui (Tilt) Mercedes G4 6-wheeled Nazi staff car for the incredible price of CDN$9.95 at my local hobby store, The Hobby House in Ottawa. It was (barely) started and is missing only the driver figure. I've had to uninstall the motorisation gimmick and am in the process of evaluating what will be needed to bring it up to snuff. Faust has an OOB of the kit on his site ( Marui 1/35 Mercedes-Benz G4/W31 (OOB) ). The onlr real changes I'll need to do to the kit is to scratch-built the rear gas tank and filler cap, detail the rear trunk (boot) lid and add a pair of axles/differentials to the underside. I'm NOT going to try to detail the entire chassis, as I'm going to place it on a base. Some further comments to Faust's write up: It's a typical Japanese kit for the mid-seventies. Even Tamiya used to include electric motors in some of their kits. While no means state-of-the-art, it's a quite serviceable model kit. The figures include four identical Nazi senior officers (3 in feldgrau and 1 in dunkelgelb) and Adolf Hitler (also in dunkelgelb). These are comparable to Tamiya figures of the time. The driver figure is missing - I assume he was built and misplaced when the original owner gave up. The assembly was restricted to assembling the drive train using tube glue. This has weakened enough over the years (hey, it's a 45-year-old model) that I was able to pop the chassis members loose and release the motor and gearbox. Unlike some motorised Japanese kits of that era, there is minimal-to-no distortion of the interior parts to allow for the battery box and gearbox, so I don't forsee and major rebuilding needed, aside from the fuel tank and rear axles. The driver I can source from my figure parts box. This will go nicely with my model of Montgomery's Humber Super Snipe. It's moulded in white and black to replicate Der Fuehrer's parade car, and his likeness is shown hatless, with one hand gripping the windshield frame and the other hand in the notorious "Hitler salute". I may cut the heads off some of the figures and alter the angle to give them a little more individuality, as well as swapping out some of their arms for different positions.
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Wow! You found one of those for $10!!!! That's awesome!

I'm hoping to find a second sometime, so I can steal the figures for the ICM 1/35 kit. I don't really want to start bulding mine since it's so perfect and all the bags are sealed, etc.

I would also like a second so I could actually build it motorized. I've never built a motorized kit, and I think a G4 toy would be a scream!

Congrats on the awesome find, and have fun! Make sure you post pics! I'm looking forward to it!
 

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Wow! You found one of those for $10!!!! That's awesome!

I'm hoping to find a second sometime, so I can steal the figures for the ICM 1/35 kit. I don't really want to start bulding mine since it's so perfect and all the bags are sealed, etc.

I would also like a second so I could actually build it motorized. I've never built a motorized kit, and I think a G4 toy would be a scream!

Congrats on the awesome find, and have fun! Make sure you post pics! I'm looking forward to it!
I'm having fun with this one. I've determined that WH-37925 was actually one of Hitler's parade cars, a 1934 G4, and would have been the same version as is actually provided in the kit, with the lack of a step in the rear fenders and the oil can on the driver's side running board. It would have been a silver-grey colour with black fenders and silver-grey wheel rims as opposed to the cream colour shown on the box art. Since it appears that the driver figure was identical to the passenger figures, just with different parts for the arms, I'm not worried about him being missing. I'm planning on having a couple of the passengers holding Field Marshalls' batons. Your writeup was a big help. I've collected a whole pile of pictures of the G4 and the model correctly depicts an early G4. Even though only 57 of the beasts were produced over 5 years, there are a lot of variants -- seems they were all custom jobs. A couple of things need work, though. The gearbox doesn't look much like the exposed gas tank, so I built the tank using the large battery box cover cut up with a sprue gas filler tube and a spare spotlight for the James-Bond-like rear spotlight to blind tail-gaters. I'd love to get an image of the passenger side of the hood/bonnet to see if this vehicle had the super-charger exhausts. Anyone who knows and can so inform me would have my deepest gratitude. It would be a simple modification, but would need to be done early in the build.

Update: just went through my image collection with a fine-toothed comb and it seems that the version of the vehicle in the kit did have the super-charger side pipes. Just need to find some chrome flex-style cables for that. Unfortunately, I'm in a nursing home (we are an aging demographic) and we're on lockdown due to CoViD 19, so I'll have to find a way to make some... :mad:
 

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Well, I'm working on the interior -- the seats to begin with. Photos show the front passenger seat folded up so der Fuhrer could stand and wave at the adoring crowds (You VILL cheer or else!). There's also a 3" tall platform for him to stand on and a pistol holster on the interior door panel behind the driver. The two jump seats amidships are moulded as a single bench seat with a depression in the middle so I'm having to separate them and install armrests. Other than that some thin styrene cladding for the interior panels and some door handles and it'll look good. I've also put the scuff panels with their raised chrome surrounds on the rear fenders. I've marked where to drill for the supercharger exhausts, but once I've drilled 'em out I'll have to fill in the panel lines for the vent doors in those locations. I'll also have to add the latches on all 10 remaining vent doors. With the gas tank installed, that should finish the modifications to the kit. After constructing and installing the front axle, adding the supercharger side pipes and adding a muffler & tailpipe, that'll complete the major modifications. Then the kit will go into a small plastic bin in subassemblies to await the end of the lockdown before I can paint it I've built a seated figure to replace the missing driver and added a holster. Unlike many 1/35 vehicle models, the driver figure fits nicely in his seat awaiting arms and an SS loyalty dagger.
 

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I finally figured out how to do the supercharger side pipes. I tried wrapping some mild steel wire around a nail for the required look, but that hurt my thumbs and looked like utter crap. I looked around and found a spool of thin wire solder which I wrapped around some telephone wire. Looks perfect! Once I get it trimmed to size and bent in the proper 90 degree angle, I'll flood it with some thin superglue from Dollarama and paint it with chrome paint. Should work!
 

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Did you use the three strand telephone wire or just one stand from it - for future scale reference. 🤙
 

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Did you use the three strand telephone wire or just one stand from it - for future scale reference. 🤙
I'm using an older telephone wire from 20 years ago. This is a .040" coloured plastic sheath with a single .015" copper wire in it. Unlike the more modern telephone wire with multiple thin strands, it ill hold its shape when bent. Wrapping .030" solder around gives an approximation of the flexible metal side pipes needed. You could simply use .040" (1mm) copper wire as a core for the solder wrapping, but I'm in a nursing home which is on lockdown to protect the residents from CoViD 19, so I have to use what I've got on hand
 

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Understand. Hope you at least are getting to go outside. Mrs Fox and I have started walking in the neighborhood just to do something other than grocery shopping.

And thanks for the details on the wire size. After I asked, I thought about our old land line at my parents house. A black wire that would roll out to any point in the house - except the garage!
 

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Understand. Hope you at least are getting to go outside. Mrs Fox and I have started walking in the neighborhood just to do something other than grocery shopping.

And thanks for the details on the wire size. After I asked, I thought about our old land line at my parents house. A black wire that would roll out to any point in the house - except the garage!
Well, we do have an enclosed garden, so I can go "outside" and get some fresh air. Still, I'm going stir crazy. Luckily, I have my laptop hooked up to the internet and my account has unlimited bandwidth. Stay safe and healthy.
 

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Thanks! We even had some folks say Hi! and wave yesterday. Good health and safety to you too!
 

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And thanks for the details on the wire size. After I asked, I thought about our old land line at my parents house. A black wire that would roll out to any point in the house - except the garage!
Well, wrapping the wire with solder didn't work all that well. I was thinking "how do I find some thinner soft steel wire for the wrapping" when it came to me! I'm already using non-steel wire, so why not just strip the plastic sheath from some of the telephone wire? I'm currently doing the wrapping and it looks much better. I only need 2 pieces of the finished product about 20-25mm long, so it's doable. Let you know how this iteration works.
 

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OK, success! I wound up (pun intended) wrapping the copper wire around the steel wire. The copper wire is thin and soft enough to get a good wrap, while the steel wire is thin enough that the finished product is the perfect diametre compared to photos and can be bent in a right angle. I've got 25mm length ans a 30mm length, just enough for the supercharger side-pipes. The length you have to go to when supplies are restricted. If it wasn't for the quarantine lockdown, I could have just gone to the nearest music store and got a wound guitar E string, about the same size and cheap.

Once this whole episode is over, I really must stock up on miscellaneous supplies...
 

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Well, I give up (sort of). I can't hand-wind the wire tightly enough that when I bend it it won't leave very visible gaps. However, the hand-made pipes will do well-enough for pre-assembly to be replaced before painting. To that end, I;m ordering a set of round-wound acoustic bass guitar guitar strings (less than $10 CDN at amazon.ca) which not only will give me lots to spare in 4 different sizes, perfect for detailing sci-fi models, but won't need painting to get a chrome finish as they're nickel plated. Since I can't do the final assembly until I paint the model and that has to wait until after the lockdown finishes, it turns out to be a win-win situation.
 
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