This is a update on the Kyosho Ultima sc truck I bought for my son at easter as his first truck. He decided he had no love for the truck so it became my backup truck. I raced it for the first time at Bigdog rc last weekend and got beat up by a slash and sc10 in the 2wd stock class. So like any red blooded American would do I added some power. I pulled the motor and esc off my 2wd slash (brushless 4300kv motor and 60amp esc) and put them in the kyosho. Wow what a difference. This thing hauls ass (21\82 gears). It is so much smoother than the slash. It handles and jumps like a dream. I can do all the jumps jr can do with his 4x4 slash. ( I have three boys). He still has me in the corners but I can pull him in the straights. THIS IS MY NEW TRUCK . the slash falls to back up. Ill get some video tomorrow and post it here. If anyone has to make this choice between the two go woth the Kyosho. A little slow in stock form but throw some brushless power at it and hang on.drives like its on rails. I cant wait to race it!!!!:thumbsup: