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Check these out Last year in Pasco Washington at the end of the season we had a race called the TRI CITY 500 ,,It is a open race run what you want any motor any tire combo any body , Well not wanying to spend a ton on my motor I came up with this body that I thought would help ,Man did it ever work ,, I went from running 6,0's to running 5.6's, ,,What a improvement ,, I shared the idea with a couple guys there, and we had three of them running ,They bulit there own versons and where very happy . These will work on dirt and asphalt . they have great down force , [ had to put heavier spring on the car ] ,I build and sell these . thanks Bob ,,,,,,,, Go to http://www.knoxmotorsports.com