Fair enough. But the thing that is rather appealing about 947' is that it is not a nice round number. It's rather odd. And who is to say that it isn't 946' or 947' plus some odd inches? 947 could be just a round up or or down figure.My only problem with the length of 947' is the length coming out as 947' exactly. It just seems to me that there should be a few left over inches somewhere.
I goofed in my recall. My shuttlecraft figure isn't 25' plus a bit but 26' plus a bit: 26.427' to be exact. I checked. And the main hull sans nacelles is 24.485' and essentially consistent with Kirk's reference in TG7 to a 24ft. shuttlecraftI call my shuttlecraft at 26' for the sake of discussion, but it's actually 25'-11 and some fraction inches.
Very close at least.I goofed in my recall. My shuttlecraft figure isn't 25' plus a bit but 26' plus a bit: 26.427' to be exact. I checked. And the main hull sans nacelles is 24.485' and essentially consistent with Kirk's reference in TG7 to a 24ft. shuttlecraft
Well then I say go with the exterior size as built per Jefferies original intention. It's the interior set design size that is scaled wrong!The Shuttle exterior was built to Matt Jefferies drawings where he envisioned it as a small vehicle. It wasn't until after the Shuttle was built that it was decided that they wanted the actors to be able to stand without stooping in the interior set. Watch when people exit the Shuttle, they are always hunched over. The interior is bigger that the exterior, the Shuttle is a TARDIS!
Jefferies, however, supervised the building of the interior set too.Well then I say go with the exterior size as built per Jefferies original intention. It's the interior set design size that is scaled wrong!
There appears to be a lot of room in my and FourMadMen's Shuttle between the seats(front to back as you mention aft of the rearmost seats).^^ For my scaling I ended up with a vehicle that would have noticebly less headroom (for someone over 5'-8") and a noticeably shorter cabin. Cabin width should still be close to what it was onscreen. But looking at the interior set onscreen it looks to me like there is a lot of spare room between seats as well as aft of the rearmost seats, and there was headroom to spare especially considering that the actors tended walk somewhat croched a bit when it was entirely unnecessary--thus giving me the impression that the producers might have been trying to convey the idea of a more cramped interior.
The final convincing element for me was the ease of entry/exit in how large a step-up was I willing to accept.
I get it because although it might not be immediately apparent I did tweak the scaling of the seats a bit and I fudged the horizontal seam of the interior by raising it a bit while also reducing the ceiling height. I didn't want to do anything truly drastic because my intent all along was to have a vehicle that looked near identical to what is seen onscreen until you pull out the measuring tape.There appears to be a lot of room in my and FourMadMen's Shuttle between the seats(front to back as you mention aft of the rearmost seats). (the many many problems with doing this properly don't automatically occur to one until you go to match the two interior and exterior hull horizontal seams - which are WAY off matching properly as seen onscreen - much in the same way the interior and exterior front hull angles don't match as was first extremely well documented and elaborated on in Trekist's original blueprints)
Anyhow, in order to make the interior and exterior hull's horizontal seams match,
we felt forced to raise the height of both the seats and the control consol.
Doing that frees up a great deal of fore to aft leg room between the chairs, as the seen-onscreen chairs had everyone almost sitting on the floor - which forced the actors to stretch their legs forward to an almost unnatural degree.
But without raising the seats their is tremendously less free space fore to aft.
I hope I'm explaining this well enough for those who may or may not have been involved in the old thread.
If not I apologize in advance and ask that you let me know and I'll try to elaborate.
I've spent so much time on these issues with the others in the old Bob Villa Galileo thread that sometimes I think I've explained something that I haven't really explained well at all.
If I won a really good pile of dough off a lottery then I'd love to do this then take it on the road to various conventions. And I'd base it on my 26ft. drawings so that folks could feel it was like the real thing. And I'd have to have it "working" with lights and sound f/x some of which would be initiated by playing with the controls. You could have my interior screens rather than as windows displaying approaching or leaving the hangar deck and or planet, planet landings/take-offs and warping through space all with voice overs. That would be just so freakin' cool! And folks would love to have their pictures taken with and inside the thing. Throw in a guest appearance by Shatner and/or Nimoy and you'd have a crowd magnet.I know a lot of work has been done by various folks on the original mockup (to the point that there is very little "original" left of the poor thing), but has anyone ever tried building their own full size shuttlecraft?