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46" DeBoers Refit Enterprise x 3 - WIP

Well, It's that time again. Time to start a new project. How can you top building a PL Enterprise in the Drydock? By building a DeBoers Enterprise in a larger Drydock. I'm really looking forward to this project as I will be able to add even more details to both models on a slightly larger scale. I'm doing this project for a client and his specifications. It will be displayed a little differently and built with a few different materials and yes, this time I will be using some resin casting for some of the drydock parts. Right now I'm gathering information for detailing and lighting and how I'm going to approach building this model. At this point I am drilling out all of the view ports and hatches as well as the hanger bay and torpedo launchers, etc. This model is quite different from the Polar Lights version as far as what needs to be done. I do have a couple of pics posted on my site comparing the Deboers with the PL kit. More pics will follow very soon. Keep checking!

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Update for 06/08/10
Well, work has finally begun. I have 12 new pics in this update, 11 for DBE and 1 for DBR. This build is quite different from the PLE kit. All of the portholes and viewports as well as the hatches and the hanger bay need to be drilled out on both kits. This is what I've mainly been working on. The DBE has much more work that needs to be done on it than the Reliant, So I will be having updates of DBE first. Both ships need some additional scribing done as there are a few hatches missing on the saucer section. It is actually good to have the PL kit nearby for reference. An interesting thing about these kits are the metal saucer supports and plating used to support the warp engines. Both kits should definately have all parts test-fitted before assembling. I've been finding that a lot of them do not match up to well and need to be contoured to fit. The engineering hull has already been assembled by DeBoers and the bottom of the hull needs some serious re-working. Additional puttying and sanding will need to be done as well as some more scribing. The kit comes scribed on the bottom as 1701-A version just FYI. I should have the DBE holes finished by the end of the month and the DBR will be closley behind. See you next update.

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DeBoers Refit Enterprise with Drydock

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I have added 8 new Pics in the DB Enterprise album. I do have to say that this is NOT the PL enterprise kit at all. Even though there are fewer pieces to build the model, there is a lot more drilling and sanding to do just to get the model started. Definately take your time on this model. It should not be rushed at all. Hope you enjoy the updates. Will have more soon.

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Progress Update

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6 new pics are in the DB Enterprise gallery. I have drilled out the details on the main deflector housing as well as begun on a scratch build hanger deck. I have aquired a 2nd DB Enterprise model Through another client of mine and am awaiting one more kit so I will now be working on 4 models at the same time. They will all be built pretty close together so they will all be at the same building stage at the same time. The updates might be a little farther apart now but I am still working on these projects, so keep checking for updates.

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:cool:There are 9 new pics in the DB Enterprise Album this week. In this update I've begun building a scale "master" of the hanger bay. I'm using the PLE hanger as a reference as well as some stills from ST:TMP. Although the pics I'm using as reference are matte paintings there is still much valuable information to be used. For instance, the width of the hanger is wider in the matte paintings than on the actual model piece. So, for the DeBoers I will widen the hanger accordingly. I will be making castings of the walls and ceilings od the hanger so I won't have to rebuild the hanger for all 3 models. I'm going to use a clear resin so I won't have to drill out too many holes for the lighting effects. I am also making some castings for the Bridge dome and lower saucer dome and also the main deflector dish housing as well as the deflector dish itself. This will assist with the lighting effects for these pices as well. I have also included some pictures of the warp nacell grills. The pieces that came with the kits are flat and completely straight. I been able to contour them so the fit better into the nacells. I believe that I will recast these into one piece later on to help with the lighting effects. I'll have more updates soon. I will also be working on the botany deck, the main crew rec-deck and also the officer's lounge and a few of the interior rooms where the open hatches are located.



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Construction of the DeBoers Hanger and Cargo Bays

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In my update this week, I've begun working on the cargo bay section of the hanger deck. I had to take a lot of interior measurement od the DB Engineering section to make it as large as possible and also make sure it is to scale and that it will actualy fit into the model when I'm finished building it. Then I had to take a lot of measurements of the PLE hanger to scale it up to the DBE size. Everything is being built as a master so that I can make some casting molds. If you look at all of the detail that I'm adding, you'll see why I'm going to be making casting. To put the details on just the upper and lower cargo bay stalls on just one wall took me a little over 3 hours. It's a bear to do but worth the effort. By next update I will have the details on the upper part of the cargo bay added in and all of the strucural wall braces or "ribs" as I'm calling them will be added and then I can start on the ceiling and begin moving to the lower hanger deck starting in the middle section of the hanger. The New Pics star on slide 38 - 47. Hope you enjoy the updates and I'll see you when I have new pics.



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Scratchbuild Hanger Deck Update

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I've added a few test fitting pics of the hanger bay pieces fitted into the Engineering hull. Because each of the DeBoers models has variances on the insides of the hull I have to be very carefull with the test fitting. I found out that the middle wall section that I've built are going to have to be trimmed so they can fit into the hull space. The upper part of my scratch build part hits the inner wall of the hull and causes it tonot allow the pieces to fit properly. Sometimes you just cant rely on mathamatics to enlarge a piece for the models. These scratch build models need to be built with great care as the DeBoers model and all of the pieces must be very customized to fit in there properly. But... with a little TLC and some tweaking it will all work out. I should have a complete hanger model to show you next week or so and then start casting 3 of them for the other Enterprise models. See you next update.



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Hanger Deck update...

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6 new pics added to my site. More work done to the Hanger bay. I'm working on the Turbo Lift tubes and the ceiling details right now. Soon I'll be ready to cast this beastie. It is a very tight squeeze into the main hull of the ship. I've had to trim some of the pieces back just to get it inside the model. The effort is paying off though. I Should be finished with this hanger by the next week or so if all goes well. See you next update.

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:cool: Thanks Jim!

My update for this month is a little late, but I've been working on my master molds for the hanger and am going to be starting the casting process. I have a pic of the test casting for the Starboard side of the hanger deck as well as the rear wall. Both test pieces came out very well and I will start the final casting this coming week. I had a few issues with resin I was working with and had to adjust a few things to get this part of it set up right. I also have some of the lighting effects ready to be installed after the pieces are ready and primed and then painted their final colors. I'm trying to match as closely as possible what was seen in TMP, but I'm going to be adding a few of my own touches for the realism effect. I've also started working on the Botany deck. Since the secondary hull comes pre-assembled, it's a little bit harder to make measurements except by trial and error for the proper fitting of the deck inside the model. I've also cast some parts for the ceilings for the opened hatches on the saucer section. I'm also mapping out the officers lounge to begin construction of a master to be cast later on. The PL officers lounge does not match entirley what was seen in ST:TMP. So, I will have a few of my own touches to put in this piece as well. Also on the list of things to do is the creation of the crew rec-deck. I've seen several versions of other modelers re-decks for their PLE models and will be using some of their ideas for these models.

In preparation for things to come, I've purchased some of the lighting tubes and EL lamps and about 250 LEDs that I will be using to light the models, also trees and shrubs, rocks and other items for the botany deck, various resins and silicon rubber for casting multiple scratchbuilt parts.

Here's what the totals for these models will be that need to be built. There will be 4 officer's lounges, 3 for the DBE's and one for the DBReliant. 4 rec-decks, respectively for these models. 3 Botany decks, and 3 Hangers. 2 of the DBE's will have the opened hatches detailing. I'm recasting the main deflector dish and housing with a clear resin rather than the milky white or transparent blue versions.

So, even though you may not see a lot of new pics these last few weeks, there has still been a lot of prep-work being done to beautify these models. As I complete them, I will add more pics. Keep checking the site. You won't be disappointed.

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It's not possible to be disappointed with your work!:thumbsup:
Thanks Model Man! I appreciate your support!

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In this update I've begun the building of the Flight deck pieces for the Hanger. I've started to build and assemble the Chase lighting effect or landing lights. I realize that this type of lighting was not seen in TMP, but my client asked me to add anything to the models that would enhance it's realism. I've already opaqued 2 of the decks and tested this lighting effect to see how it would look, and I think it works very nicely. In my next updat I will include a small video to show you the effects. Right now I have to finish opaqueing the 3rd flight deck, then paint it it's appropriate color, then add the landing strip details. After that I'll post the effect.

In other news, I've started on the Officer's Lounge piece. This piece is not going to look like the PLE officers lounge. I've been studying some stills from ST:TMP and building my lounge according to the movie. On the PL piece the viev screens are huge and out of scale with the lounge. I've made mine a lot closer to what is seen in the movie. Many of the walls in the movie are actually paneled walls in what appears to be a very light tan color. When you see DR McCoy in the shot, behind him are some more chairs, tables and a couch, and behind the couch are windows. They appear dark but I believe. at least in my version, that it is because no one is in the lower lounge area. You will be able to see through these windows on my version and will also be able to see the right side view screen some-what, whereas the wall on the PLE version almost completely blocks out that screen, being a solid wall.

By my next update I should be able to show you a painted Hanger Deck, possibly one of the Officers lounges finished, I'll have the molds done for these pieces as well as the Botony deck and I will be starting on the the Crew Rec-Deck. I've really been looking forward to building this piece because it is very intricate and is on of my favorite set pieces in the movie. I only wish that that had shown a lot more of it on the screen including a better view of the Warp Nacell outside the rec-deck windows that was barely seen in the movie.

See you next update!

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Wellll, Not this week anyway. I've just hit my busy season at work so for the next week or 2 I'm very limited on how much I can get done. The only thing I can tell you now is that I'm starting on the crew rec deck. This is a very detailed little piece to work on and I'm trying to get all the info I can on the layout. I've found a few plans here and there and of course I'm using the only two scenes there are in ST:TMP of the deck as references. I've also found a few modeler's version of it for the PL Enterprise and I'm also using those as referece material. I'm going to build one side of the wall and then cast the other one from this piece. I will build the cieling piece seperately as well as the layout for the floor/deck. There will be a lot of little pieces to scratch build such as the rear wall with the viewscrean and the displays of the Enterprise ships. The upper and lower walk ways by the 8 viewports as well as the dividers seen as Illia walks toward the viewports and of course the furniture and recreational games built into the floor. there's a lot to cram into the limited space. So, I hope this whets your whistle for the next update. And like I said in the previous post I'll have at least one of the hangars assembled and lit.

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Botany, officer's lounge, crew rec deck and hanger update

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As promised I have a lot of updates for The DeBoers Projects. This time there are 28 new pics of a lot of progress that has been made. Photos 69 to 96 are all new and they begin on page 2 of the DeBoers Project photo album. I have finished casting all of the pieces for the Hanger deck and they are now opaqued and painted their appropriate colors. I've added the turbo lift tubes and scratch built the railings for the catwalks surrounding the cargo bay area. I now I promised a video of the lighting effects for the landing deck, But I ran into a fitting problem. Because the DeBoers models are all individually cast they all have variances in the thickness of the hull so I have to shave a lot of these problem areas down and it's taking some extra time to get this done. But for sure I will have something for you the next updat which won't be too long from now.

I've also continued work on the Botany section. I've added some walls and other details and am now begining the landscaping of 3 of these bays. One for each of the Enterprise models. This part is actually kind of fun. I'm beginning to see why model railroading is a big hit.

I've also made the Crew rec deck. This is a very complicated piece because there are so many different shapes to it and a whole lot of furnature to be put into it as well. I'm starting to get the hang of the resin casting and I now have 3 complete piece castings for the entire rec deck, 3 castings of the botany deck and 4 castings of the officers lounge. All of these pieces will of course need to be painted and detailed and that will be in a future update. I will also work on that video of the lighting effects for the hanger. It's all starting to move now. The tough part is making the masters for the molding process. After the molds are made it gets much easier to make these pieces.

Let me know what you think of the progress.

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