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With the change in NASCAR bodies and new bodies to be out this year for oval I was wondering what structure of class and bodies racers like.
 

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I think there should be a home for the gen 3 body. It would be cool if the McCallister Mustang and Camaro would be run with the gen 3 Challenger.
 

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I think there should be a home for the gen 3 body. It would be cool if the McCallister Mustang and Camaro would be run with the gen 3 Challenger.
The McAllister "ASA Camaro" and "ASA Mustang" bodies are meant to be Late Model/short-track stock car type (think Five Star Racing Bodies) bodies. They are nowhere near close to being a "Nationwide" type body.
 

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True, our ASA Camaro and Mustang bodies are Late Models, but the bodies you are calling Nationwide are not even close to what a current Nationwide car looks like....They are Late Models also. We do make a Nationwide Mustang which is the only true Nationwide body on the market. It can also be decaled as a Nationwide Camaro.
 

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I would like to see a place for the New Protoform gen3 body! the detail is second to none. Cant wait to see the next masterpiece Dale produces..
 

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True, our ASA Camaro and Mustang bodies are Late Models, but the bodies you are calling Nationwide are not even close to what a current Nationwide car looks like....They are Late Models also. We do make a Nationwide Mustang which is the only true Nationwide body on the market. It can also be decaled as a Nationwide Camaro.
Gary, the bodies I'm referring to as "Nationwide" are the current (NASCAR) Nationwide body styles - the Mustang, the so-called (1977 Nova/Ventura) "Camaro", and the Challenger. The "R/C version" bodies that we often refer to as "Nationwide" (T-HD, C-HD, F-MD, etc.), are, to me, what current short track Late Model bodies look like. :)

I'm agreein' with ya 100% on this one. :thumbsup:
 

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This is a "local" type asphalt Late Model; sure looks a LOT like a ProtoForm C-HD or a McAllister "Milwaukee" Late Model body to me...

 

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True, our ASA Camaro and Mustang bodies are Late Models, but the bodies you are calling Nationwide are not even close to what a current Nationwide car looks like....They are Late Models also. We do make a Nationwide Mustang which is the only true Nationwide body on the market.......
Really?

Dale - Protoform
 

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I don't wanna see this turn ugly....

Dale: You guys make the Challenger body style, but, being recently released, Gary probably didn't realize it was already on the market. Gary's Mustang body *was* the only real Nationwide-style body until yours came out.

Now we need that '78 Nov...I mean, that "Camaro" looking thing, and a Toyota, we'll have all four makes. :)
 

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Sorry....I didn't know the Natiowide Series was currently using a Challenger.
Yep, when they went back to a "pony car", Nationwide has had the Mustang, the Camry, and the Challenger. Chevy had the Impala in Nationwide until this year, when they started running the '78 Nova...I mean, the so-called "Camaro".



This thing is *ugly* and bears NO resemblence whatsoever to a "Camaro" race car:

 

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Gary, I believe there a couple 2nd/3rd tier teams maybe running Challangers in some races, perhaps Mike Harmon at Daytona..not that it matters in the grand scheme of things..
 

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Ron- That could be, I didn't check the whole roster, but Penske has obviously changed. I wonder if any of the Cup COT chassis' could be used in Nationwide, or if they just made changes and reskinned the Gen 6 cars. The Busch cars used to get hand me downs from Winston Cup....but those days are long gone.
 

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The Dodge Challenge was introduced into the Nationwide series in the summer of 2010. Keselowski used one to win the Nationwide Championship in 2011. These photos were taken at the 2013 Daytona opener.

Winston/Sprint Cup cars were never hand me downs for the Busch/Nationwide series because the cars had a 5 inch longer wheelbase. Because of that the construction of the chassis were quite different and made them incompatable. The ARCA guys bought up most of the old Cup cars.

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The WINSTON CUP Cars used to get handed down to the Permatex Sportsman (Pre BUSCH Grand National) Cars, and to the Winston West Series (Some of those teams ran NEW Winston Cup chassis cars, but most picked up Used Ones for a whole bunch cheaper) -

When the Busch Series went to Short Wheel Base and V6s - the market for used "CUP" Cars changed and the price of a BUSCH Car went Way Up...

It's sad the R/C Oval Racing/Racers have such a huge desire to be a ONE Dog/Pony show...

I remember when you'd show up at a race and there would be 4-5 brands of Lexan Bodies being used... Bolink - Parma - McAllister - Dahm's - Andy's - ProtoForm

Equally there were 4-5 tire companies - BSR - TRC - HPI - Associated - Proline -

Motors were tuned by dozens of Companies, but most were EPIC or Yokomo based tear downs...and the only monopoly for a long time was SANYOs domination in the ROUND CELL market - while Panasonic threw a bone in the bowl once in a while... THEN Came NiMh and BOTH of those two...GONE.

...long and short of it - it doesn't matter who else makes an oval legal body...when it comes to race day - 99.9% of the bodies used at the big races will be ProtoForm - as long as their are no Oval Sanctioning Bodies who will make bodies confirm to "Real" Scale type dimensions, and meet weight / thickness standards.

If R/C Oval Racing had a organizing body who specified scale appearance, dimensions, min thickness, and min body weight - maybe other companies could migrate back into the R/C Oval Hobby (ie McAllister, Andy's, RJ Speed) -- it would be nice to see a variety of skins at the race tracks again...
 

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95% of oval racers will run what is considered the fast and best handling body for their class. Hand a pro racer a "lexan go fast product" and if he is fast, then that is what everone wants. Pretty much the same thing for all the other items.

Racers like myself, would like to see more bodies from the past or cars raced at the local short track(Cameros,Mustangs, latemodels).

One of the reasons I like SK modified is the identification with a form of real racing I enjoy. But a new an more areodynamic body has almost made the the other mod bodies history.

Our hobby involves competition which leads to competition for what goes on the track.
 

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The Aero1 SK body not only is a performer on the track, but it, IMHO is the most realistic and true to scale of all the other options. The Mcallister is a 2nd place in that category and was the best before the Aero1. The Protoform bodies just flat perform well and look great. No offense to Gary, but the level of detail on McAllister bodies is just sub-par to Protoform and ultimately, for me, if i'm picking a body, i'm going with the best looking one i can get my hands on. For a while in my area we ran a Crate Latemodel class, with Dirt Latemodel bodies on pancars. McAllister bodies are the best looking for that class, and that's what I always ran.
 
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