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I've been trying to find out a bit more about the 1987 range of BP promos that were released in the Netherlands. I have managed to buy two which have never been out of the box (until they came to me that is, I open most things). Now I'm interested in a few details such as rarity (I see some american sellers which try to sell them around the 100.00 dollar mark which I think is a bit ridiculous) and the range of different models (I bought the BMW in blue and the light green IROC-Z but I've seen a nice Cherokee too and a "Formula 1" mechanic). I've seen them in window boxes and on blister cards. So what's the story with these? I imagine they are relatively common in the Netherlands and nearby countries?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matchbox-BP...63298?pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item3f199e96a2

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/matchbox-bp-dutch-promo-porsche-911-160362244

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mint-matchbox-lamborghini-p-promo-152302489

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3603

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3605

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3604&pictureID=16806
 

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... to bad diecast will never be like that again...
Never ever. Gone for good. At least we can reach back into time and still find, admire, and enjoy these gems.
On that site you can look up the old catalogs.
Take a look at catalogs from around 1969 or so, then just a few years later, look at the 1983 catalog.
The difference just in those few scant years is startling. Allmost every last casting in '83 is repulsive!
Have to admitt, some of the current ones blow away all of those from the eighties.
 

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Never ever. Gone for good. At least we can reach back into time and still find, admire, and enjoy these gems.
On that site you can look up the old catalogs.
Take a look at catalogs from around 1969 or so, then just a few years later, look at the 1983 catalog.
The difference just in those few scant years is startling. Allmost every last casting in '83 is repulsive!
Have to admitt, some of the current ones blow away all of those from the eighties.
Haha, I'm glad we are all different. I'm a sucker for a lot of 80's Matchbox because I was 5 in 1983, so there's all that subconscious coveting still.

http://matchbox.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_1983_Matchbox

A lot of the ones I really want are from 1986/87. I guess our childhood has a large part in these things. :wave:
 

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Hi everyone.

I've been trying to find out a bit more about the 1987 range of BP promos that were released in the Netherlands. I have managed to buy two which have never been out of the box (until they came to me that is, I open most things). Now I'm interested in a few details such as rarity (I see some american sellers which try to sell them around the 100.00 dollar mark which I think is a bit ridiculous) and the range of different models (I bought the BMW in blue and the light green IROC-Z but I've seen a nice Cherokee too and a "Formula 1" mechanic). I've seen them in window boxes and on blister cards. So what's the story with these? I imagine they are relatively common in the Netherlands and nearby countries?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matchbox-BP-Ford-Formule-1-Service-Auto-Van-BPoil-Racing-Team-Rare-Dutch-Edition-/271012763298?pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item3f199e96a2

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/matchbox-bp-dutch-promo-porsche-911-160362244

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mint-matchbox-lamborghini-p-promo-152302489

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3603

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3605

http://nigelsworld.homeip.net/diecast/detail.php?ID=3604&pictureID=16806
I remember hunting down these 10 models a number of years back. They were released in 2 batches of 5. This is why half are in blisters, and half in window boxes. I am unsure why they changed packaging for the second run. You collected your tokens and sent off for them. Price-wise, around mainland Europe they are not too expensive, but once you start going abroad prices do tend to slowly rise. I can't remember how much I paid for them in the 1990s in the UK (we are talking probably nearly 20 years ago now).

BP did plan a promotional set in the UK too. 12 models were going to be issued in the UK under a similar system to the Dutch one. You collected tokens and could trade them in. Production of the first 6 models began before BP pulled the plug on it. Each model was a standard looking model (using normal tampo prints associated with their respective basic range issue) with an added BP logo on it, although most were unique colors (only the Ferrari 308GTB was a same color). These 6 that began production were then over-tampoed with something else over the BP logo. 1 (white BMW 323i) was released on ROW window box in Europe, and the other 5 on long blister card in USA.

This Porsche Turbo is one of the US models. The 3 roundel on the door was an overprint of the BP logo. If you were to hold the model to the light in the right direction and look closely you can see the BP logo under the 3.

The other 6 models only exist in prepro form with a BP logo on them (all 12 do appear as prepros).

This Ford Escort XR3i is a prepro which was one that started production. The BP logo was overprinted with a large Ford logo and packaged/sent to USA.

This Renault 11 was one of the 6 that did not begin production and only exists in preproduction form.

It is a shame that series never got made, as I was going to be first in the queue at BP to get them.

:) :D :p
 

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Thanks DT for taking the time to answer. I only learned about them recently. Here in New Zealand I managed to find the blue BMW and the green IROC-Z in factory sealed window boxes for about 10 British pounds each. I like limited runs and code 2 versions but also the stories behind them. Needless to say, the boxes didn't stay factory sealed any more after I got them.

PS: I much prefer the wheels on this Renault 11 compared to the black standard model. In fact these are my favourite wheels of MBX ever. They have a certain softness to them which goes well with the old wheel suspension.
 

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Haha, I'm glad we are all different. I'm a sucker for a lot of 80's Matchbox because I was 5 in 1983, so there's all that subconscious coveting still.

http://matchbox.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_1983_Matchbox

A lot of the ones I really want are from 1986/87. I guess our childhood has a large part in these things. :wave:
I'm glad you're level-headed.
I forget sometimes that my opinions and the harsh way I voice them probably insults some people. I prolly outta tone it down a notch or two! :)
 

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I'm glad you're level-headed.
I forget sometimes that my opinions and the harsh way I voice them probably insults some people. I prolly outta tone it down a notch or two! :)
No problem. Congratulations on 10,000 posts though, I think that wasn't mentioned anywhere. :thumbsup:
 

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I remember hunting down these 10 models a number of years back. They were released in 2 batches of 5. This is why half are in blisters, and half in window boxes. I am unsure why they changed packaging for the second run. You collected your tokens and sent off for them. Price-wise, around mainland Europe they are not too expensive, but once you start going abroad prices do tend to slowly rise. I can't remember how much I paid for them in the 1990s in the UK (we are talking probably nearly 20 years ago now).

BP did plan a promotional set in the UK too. 12 models were going to be issued in the UK under a similar system to the Dutch one. You collected tokens and could trade them in. Production of the first 6 models began before BP pulled the plug on it. Each model was a standard looking model (using normal tampo prints associated with their respective basic range issue) with an added BP logo on it, although most were unique colors (only the Ferrari 308GTB was a same color). These 6 that began production were then over-tampoed with something else over the BP logo. 1 (white BMW 323i) was released on ROW window box in Europe, and the other 5 on long blister card in USA.

This Porsche Turbo is one of the US models. The 3 roundel on the door was an overprint of the BP logo. If you were to hold the model to the light in the right direction and look closely you can see the BP logo under the 3.

The other 6 models only exist in prepro form with a BP logo on them (all 12 do appear as prepros).

This Ford Escort XR3i is a prepro which was one that started production. The BP logo was overprinted with a large Ford logo and packaged/sent to USA.

This Renault 11 was one of the 6 that did not begin production and only exists in preproduction form.

It is a shame that series never got made, as I was going to be first in the queue at BP to get them.

:) :D :p
I just got the white with green Porsche in an auction, hoping that it has the BP logo under the 3, just based on your picture here. Do you know if they were made for other territories with the same tampos but unrelated to the BP story and how common they are? I'll be happy to add these to my "Matchbox with a story". Thanks for sharing, Mr T.
 

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Wow, who wants to hop in the DeLorean with me and head on back to the sixties? The first place we'll hit is the toy store, and we'll bring back all the gleaming new Lesney's they've got. The shop keeper will think we're nuts! Then he'll look at the dates printed on our money and think it's counterfeit, then call the police. That's where the DeLorean comes in handy once again!

Truly awesome junk can be found on these lincs!
 
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