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Shouldn't the tiller be counter rotating? Meaning right now the tiller tire in drive is the same direction as the tines . All it does is speed across the garden . Normally with rear tine tillers the tines dig in and the tires move it ahead?
 

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Shouldn't the tiller be counter rotating? Meaning right now the tiller tire in drive is the same direction as the tines . All it does is speed across the garden . Normally with rear tine tillers the tines dig in and the tires move it ahead?
I am not familar with your tiller, however some tillers have pins in the wheel and axle, one position is for moving the equipment the other for work, when the wheel is not pinned to the axle the tiller will run away if the tines touch the ground, when pinned the wheel gear ratio holds the tiller. Have a good one. Geo
 

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Shouldn't the tiller be counter rotating? Meaning right now the tiller tire in drive is the same direction as the tines . All it does is speed across the garden . Normally with rear tine tillers the tines dig in and the tires move it ahead?
there is no "normally" with rear tine tillers. they come both ways, forward and CRT. If the tiller you are talking about is a new "Ariens" it's just a Husqvarna anyway.
 

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Few if any walk behind tillers will have counter rotating tines. If they did, they would likely back over the operator and cause injury. The tires on tillers cannot guarantee traction, so on most rear tine tillers the tines turn forward and push against the wheels to slow down forward motion.

Just as Geo suggested, check the pins and make sure the wheel rims are locked to the axle. The tines usually turn at a faster rate then the wheels and if the wheels are not locked, will push the tiller forward at a fast rate.
 

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Few if any walk behind tillers will have counter rotating tines. If they did, they would likely back over the operator and cause injury. The tires on tillers cannot guarantee traction, so on most rear tine tillers the tines turn forward and push against the wheels to slow down forward motion.
30year, i'm confused or maybe we're all confused? If you view this page http://www.troybilt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category2_10001_14102_54971_54971_54971_-1 you will note that at least 3 of those models are CounterRotatingTine models. CRT tillers turn the tines opposite of the drive wheels.. i'm not sure what you mean about the tines backing over the operator? I think you have something backwards as to what CRT is? FRT would push the tiller forward.
 

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30year, i'm confused or maybe we're all confused? If you view this page http://www.troybilt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category2_10001_14102_54971_54971_54971_-1 you will note that at least 3 of those models are CounterRotatingTine models. CRT tillers turn the tines opposite of the drive wheels.. i'm not sure what you mean about the tines backing over the operator? I think you have something backwards as to what CRT is? FRT would push the tiller forward.
When I was an Ariens dealer, they explained that none of their rear tine tillers had counter rotating tines. If traction was lost at the tires, the tiller could jump back towards the operator and if their feet got caught in the tines they could be pulled in under the tiller. I guess it was a liability issue with them.

Perhaps MTD has figured out the control issue with CRT, used to be I only saw that on tow behind tillers. The old Troybilt (real ones) that I ever ran across did not have CRT, and the old Ariens Rocket Tillers did not either (at least as far as I know)
 

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The wheels are locked as they are in hi or low drive mode. The tines rotate that same direction as the tires. Unlike my sears 5 hp tiller the tires drive and the tines really dig in as they rotate backwards.
I guess the older tillers if they did lose their drive and the tines were CRT I guess they might catch a foot if the operator wasn't watching.
Well then not too sure what the problem is maybe the depth stick was not set up properly.
 

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The wheels are locked as they are in hi or low drive mode. The tines rotate that same direction as the tires. Unlike my sears 5 hp tiller the tires drive and the tines really dig in as they rotate backwards.
I guess the older tillers if they did lose their drive and the tines were CRT I guess they might catch a foot if the operator wasn't watching.
Well then not too sure what the problem is maybe the depth stick was not set up properly.
If the tires are not driving when engaged, there may be a problem in the transmission. Can you freely push the tiller when it's in gear?
 

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Spent too much time playing around with that tiller so I sold it last week. Not bad had it for 2 seasons and made $25 on the deal. Counting my time I lost about $500. Time for me is free.
thanks.
 
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