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"Pimp My Starship." :lol:

I contend that Jefferies intended the Phase II ship to be a true refit. His drawings have some very interesting points in common with his prevous design.

There is a section view showing deck structure that looks almost to have been traced from his original TOS section view -- right down to the turbolift pathways. And the primary hull looks like the original is still inside it. The flat AMT-style lip on the underside begins at just about the point where the old hull diameter ends -- making it look like an extension added on to the old hull. The top surface contour has been reworked to the point where it would require some rebuilding, but the bottom contour looks pretty close to MJ's drawings of the TOS-E. The dorsal and engines are, of course, totally new. The secondary hull is the same length and appears only to have been made fatter about the middle. The interior hangar deck is virtually unchanged from the series.

This was the state of things when MJ left the project. After the transition to a feature motion picture, Jefferies' design was revised by Andy Probert. This is where the continuity was broken when he began scaling the components to get what he perceived as a more pleasing balance. He made a deliberate decision to change it so it couldn't be a true refit, even thought the script said otherwise. Today we are left with no way to truly reconcile the "Refit" with the original ship.

This has always bothered me. As nice as the cosmetic refinements he introduced are (and I think they are great), it wasn't necessary to make it "a whole new ship." Most of us like to think of it as actually being Kirk's original ship, not a whole new vessel with maybe a nut or bolt of the original for old times sake.

I think they should have relooped some of the lines in the Director's Cuts of the various movies:

KIRK: "Scotty, they gave her back to... er-- another ship of the same name to me."

SULU (beaming with pride): "Any chance to go aboard The... er, a ship named Enterprise."

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Lloyd Collins said:
I read that Matt Jefferies wanted the nacelles on TOS 1701 to be like what was on the refit, but Gene Roddenberry got his way. I am glad, because that is what I like about
TOS ship. You can see the power.
I'd like to see this in print somewhere. Can you find it?

I suspect it is a mistaken impression caused by an inaccurate photo caption in one of the Trek art books (can't remember which off hand). It showed a 3-view sketch of the Enterprise by MJ with TMP style engines and backswept pylons. The caption claimed it was the MJ's final drawing of the original TV ship. This despite the plainly read inscription on the drawing dating it to 1977! It was actually MJ's take on the redesign for Phase II...

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Lloyd Collins said:
An update. I found it. Star Trek The Magazine, December 2001 issue on the STMP Director's Edition. On page 84, redesigning the 1701, "He goes on to say that he had actually prepared drawings that showed the ENTERPRISE with flat nacelles when he'd originally created the ship. He had planned to present then if Gene didn't like the first version of the ENTERPRISE he saw but since they hadn't been needed he'd filed them away for future use. These drawings provided the basis for his redesign."
Thanks a lot, Lloyd! What a very interesting tidbit. Like all good commercial artists, he had a Plan B to sell his favorite design. Wouldn't you love to see those sketches to know how closely they resemble what he did later?

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