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I had a maroon 1973 with a black vinyl top, 400 auto between the seats and dual exhaust. One of the nicest driving cars I have ever owned.
 

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I had a '70 Model J with every option which I complete rebuilt from the ground up. It looked perfectly stock inside and out, but had a 400 stroked to 430, good for over 500 hp. I loved that car.
 

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OK, so is it really just the headlights and grille? I wonder... Didn't this casting come out around the time that JL started doing "modular" molds? That's why there are different year versions of the '70-'72 Monte Carlo--'70 has round directionals in the front bumper, '71 has rectangle directionals in the bumper, '72 has a plain bumper with the directionals in the grille. JL has done them all, so there are apparently 3 different front end "modules" for the Monte Carlo mold. Was this casting done that way? If it wasn't, it's obviously too late now, but I wonder if it was...

Are there other differences besides the headlights/grille?

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ParkRNDL said:
OK, so is it really just the headlights and grille? I wonder... Didn't this casting come out around the time that JL started doing "modular" molds? That's why there are different year versions of the '70-'72 Monte Carlo--'70 has round directionals in the front bumper, '71 has rectangle directionals in the bumper, '72 has a plain bumper with the directionals in the grille. JL has done them all, so there are apparently 3 different front end "modules" for the Monte Carlo mold. Was this casting done that way? If it wasn't, it's obviously too late now, but I wonder if it was...

Are there other differences besides the headlights/grille?

--rick
The whole rear clip is different. '69 & '70 have a flat-faced deck lid and rear bumper, as well as a softer character line where the rear quarter meets the sail panel. The '71 & '72 have a hard character line and a boattail deck lid with matching bumper.
 

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midtown said:
2005 Chrysler 300
2004 Toyota Prius
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe / Sedan
2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 American Motors Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 V-8
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroen SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega
1970 Ford Torino
1969 Plymouth Road Runner
1968 Pontiac GTO
1967 Mercury Cougar
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
1965 Pontiac Motor Division
1964 Ford Motor Company
1963 American Motors Rambler
1962 Buick Special
1961 Pontiac Tempest
1960 Chevrolet Corvair
1959 Pontiac Motor Division
1958 Ford Thunderbird
1957 Chrysler Corporation
1956 Ford Motor Company
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1954 No Award
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Renault Alliance?!?!?! What the hell were they thinking?!?!?!?
 

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POS, the Ertl 1969 Grand Prix in 1:18 is probably the worst looking diecast I've ever bought. Avoid like the plague.
You're right, but they are better than nothing. What I would really like to see is GMP or Danbury Mint make a 69 GP if JL does'nt.
 

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madmanmark said:
The whole rear clip is different. '69 & '70 have a flat-faced deck lid and rear bumper, as well as a softer character line where the rear quarter meets the sail panel. The '71 & '72 have a hard character line and a boattail deck lid with matching bumper.
Ahhhh. Only the '71 pic in this thread shows the deck lid, but I can see what you mean by boattail. And I definitely see the character line at the base of the sail panel now that you point it out. It's funny, I was always impressed that the '70-'72 Chevelle and Monte Carlo used the same exact windshield and rear window glass and trunk lid but had such different-appearing rooflines, and I finally figured out that it was because the Monte Carlo had the hard character line like the '71-'72 GP, while the Chevelle had the soft blend like the '69-'70. But I never would have noticed it on the Pontiacs if someone hadn't pointed it out to me.

--rick
 
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