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Includes photos of the assembled test shot and extensive information on the light kit. The shape of the ship looks perfect to me. A little worried about the grid lines, but the author says those are being tweaked some more. All in all, the old girl looks fantastic!
 

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It is looking better and better to me with each update. Nice to hear Gary confirm what I have always said about the extra shading and colors on the ship, that it was just there to enhance to contours so they could stand up to repeated copying for the process shots and the small low res TV's of the '60's!! :thumbsup:
 

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They definitely need to work on the canyons that pass as grid lines. ;)

Very happy to see the alignment of the nacelles. :D
 

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It looks fantastic, but agree on the grid lines. If they can be much more subtle this kit will be perfect. Looks like they got the nacelles to fit with no sag.
 

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I'd be interested in Gary's take on Miarecki's paint job, compared to what is theorized to have been there originally.
Gary was not "theorizing" about the original paint, his comments were about the paint on the top of the Primary Hull wich has never been changed since the '60's and also based on what I presume are photo references he has seen from prior restorations at the Smithsonian. :thumbsup:
 

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Gary was not "theorizing" about the original paint, his comments were about the paint on the top of the Primary Hull wich has never been changed since the '60's and also based on what I presume are photo references he has seen from prior restorations at the Smithsonian. :thumbsup:
I'm pretty sure he can speak for himself, and probably will shortly.

As for my use of the word "theorized", like he said, the only pictures we have of the ol' girl back in the day are either inconsistent in color or in black & white, and we have no way of knowing how faded the upper saucer is, if at all, so making any conclusion as to what the model looked like, in person, under normal lighting conditions, in essence, guesswork. It may be incredibly informed guesswork, with tons of corroborating evidence, but without access to a TARDIS and a properly white balanced high definition digital camera to go back and take pics of the freshly painted model, it still comes down to "best guess."

MY theory is that the ship wasn't any more weathered than the upper saucer, and while Gary's points about the multiple passes through the optical printer necessitated some exaggeration in the detailing, it didn't require the godawful paintjob Miarecki foisted on that poor ship.
 

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I got my newsletter as well. The ship looks great! I hope they tone down the grid lines as well, but I can live with them. I'm not putting off buying this kit because of them. The bigger question is do you build it when it comes out or wait a year and stockpile up on all the aftermarket stuff that will be out for it?

A clear bridge!!!!!! Yahooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm pretty sure he can speak for himself, and probably will shortly.

As for my use of the word "theorized", like he said, the only pictures we have of the ol' girl back in the day are either inconsistent in color or in black & white, and we have no way of knowing how faded the upper saucer is, if at all, so making any conclusion as to what the model looked like, in person, under normal lighting conditions, in essence, guesswork. It may be incredibly informed guesswork, with tons of corroborating evidence, but without access to a TARDIS and a properly white balanced high definition digital camera to go back and take pics of the freshly painted model, it still comes down to "best guess."

MY theory is that the ship wasn't any more weathered than the upper saucer, and while Gary's points about the multiple passes through the optical printer necessitated some exaggeration in the detailing, it didn't require the godawful paintjob Miarecki foisted on that poor ship.
You got that right. My sister came back from the Smithsonian after the last restoration, all proud of the picture she took of the Old Girl on display at the souvenir shop. It was hard to say thank you when I saw what they had done to her! :eek:

It looks as if they should have gone back with a light coay of gray to at least soften what they had done. It is sad what passes for "Restored", just look at the colors the Sci-Fi Museum in Seattle wanted for the Robot from "Lost in Space"......................:confused:
 

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The pics of the Enterprise look awesome. I too can live with those gridlines, (Nothing some putty and hard work to maintain the fine details can not fix, in the long run) though confident they will be "toned down" a bunch more before it is all done.

The profile looks awesome, and the nacelles look dead on in alignment (Might need some calipers, and one of Spock's card "computers" to get much closer! ;)

Looks like a winner here.

A can not wait! :woohoo:
 

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It's that side profile shot that really does it for me. That looks soooooooooooo spot on!

What do you guys think of the preliminary light kit?
 

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If you want to get rid of the gridlines putty is not the way to go - a shot or two of automotive primer and some flexigrit should take care of them much faster than trying to deal with putty. Then you can prime with your favorite primer to even out the color and hit it with whatever color you decide to use.

As for the "theorizing" on the color, Gary stated where and when he got the paint chips. Most, if not all, of them were before the restorations AND were taken straight from the filming miniature. Therefore, I think it's safe to say that there was no "theorizing" taking place.
 
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