[Porksalot4L]

why come no one races 10th scale onroad anymore. i mean besides the touring cars. they use to make onroad 10th scales cars kinda like bigger versions of 12th scale onroad. is there reasons why they dont make and run this class much anymore? just curious i think it was the coolest class. thanks

 

[crisis641]

because they weren't breaking enough parts so the car companies came up with touring cars with many more moving parts that are much easier to break. I used to run 1/10th road too and it's probably still my favorite class, but times change.

 

[rayhuang]

We are racing 6-cell 1/10th Pan car On-road this Sunday in Maple Heights, Ohio. First weekend may be stock motors, then in two weeks it'll be Mod. Our track is a Ozite roadcourse that is almost 100' x 50'. If you still have a pan car and Cleveland is not too far to drive, post again and I'll try and get you more info. For starters, you'll need your own table, chair and extension cord.

 

[MuchoMadness]

tenth scale GTP

You guys who like tenth scale GTP- You gotta come out to Cleveland and race with us. The track is big and the cars are a blast. I agree- this class was by far the most awesome to drive back in the day.

Knock off the dust and come on out.
If anyone is interested,please post a reply and we can send you directions.

:thumbsup:

 

[Taz_S]

The Flyer for the are in.

Norrca On-road Nat’s
May 16, 17, and 18th
http://swr.arroyoc.net/index.cfm?fu...print&event=102


Speedworld Challenge Cup
April 26-27
http://swr.arroyoc.net/index.cfm?fu...print&event=101

let try and get a full field of Pro 10 and 1/12th.

 

[Taz_S]

So far out of all the classes the two pan car classes have the most sign ups.

 

[Dan the Man]

why come no one races 10th scale onroad anymore. i mean besides the touring cars. they use to make onroad 10th scales cars kinda like bigger versions of 12th scale onroad. is there reasons why they dont make and run this class much anymore? just curious i think it was the coolest class. thanks

Because pan cars are hard to drive, baffling to set up, and generally a pain?

 

[Taz_S]

Because pan cars are hard to drive, baffling to set up, and generally a pain?

Sorry but that what TC are, Hard to driver, hard to set up and are a realy pain the the A _ _ to work on. I can give to a list on what a pain on a TC (to many parts for one) and how long it take tear them a parts to fix somethings.

 

[Xpressman]

The last time Pro-10 (10th scale modified pan car 6-cell) ran as a national ROAR class was at the Minnreg in Fl. From what I remember Josh Cyrul and Mike Blackstock saying is the cars were just too fast. And that was only with 11 turns. They were just to fast and you just couldn;t drive them smoothly. Even in stock they are a hand full unless they are on a big track. Somewhat the same thing as 12th stock 6-cell, it is even faster the 4-cell mod and just to hard to handle.

 

[CypressMidWest]

Okay, let's dispel some myths. 1/12th 4-cell mod is actually faster than 1/12th 6-cell stock. The added voltage doesn't make up for the extra weight with only a stock motor.

1/10th Pan cars are infinitely easier to wrench on and 10 times more durable than TC's, they're also WAYYYYYY faster. Now, on a narrow carpet track a 10th Pan Car with a ten turn is really tough to drive, but on a track wide enough to cleanly race TC's on they're not that bad.
Our track (god I miss it), was 88'x45' if I remember correctly, and Doseck had no problem wheeling a 9 dbl equipped Switchblade 10 around the roadcourse. To be honest, they're actually easier to drive than 1/12th cars if the track dimensions are proportional. I mean way more rubber, wider track, longer wheelbase, and more downforce!? How can that be more difficult to drive?

:devil: Now, 6-cell 1/12th mod, that's a whole different can of worms! :devil:

 

[Dan the Man]

Carpet, hmmm? Some of us are racing on parking lots. Dirty, low-quality parking lots. I've driven a pan car on our surface, and it handled like a hovercraft. The 4wd and weight of a TC really help to keep it pointed forward. Which is kind of the reason TCs got popular in the first place...

The other part of it is that, for those of us who were already racing offroad, a TC's suspension makes sense, whereas a pan hard bar is a mystery.

 

[CypressMidWest]

Carpet, hmmm? Some of us are racing on parking lots. Dirty, low-quality parking lots.

Therein lies the problem!! I'll tell ya, nothin' handles a dusty parking lot like a T-Maxx. I absolutely hate racing in dusty, crummy parking lots. I have actually raced 1/10th pan on decent paved parking lots. We just laid down a little 40%Orange Soda, 60% water with a garden sprayer, and we were dialled in.

I also don't understand the "mystery" of pan car tuning. The adjustments are no different than those on an off-road car. Heck the rear end is even simpler on a pan car. I dunno, I've run just about every type of electric vehicle, and the only thing I've ever really struggled with set-up wise is LTO cars on concrete. Oval tuning is just too complicated. :devil:

 

[Greg Anthony]

Ian, do you want to see if we can get a class of them going for some of the bigger races this summer?? Kinda liek Corcar's mid summer deal, of teh Summer Classic in Lansing?

 

[CypressMidWest]

Greg: Unfortunately, it would cost me at least a dollar to put together a 10th GTP Car, so my broke heine would probably be unable to participate. It's unfortunate because they do keep your skills infinitely better tuned for 12th scale season than TC's do. Maybe if Brucie has an old Roadkill10 layin' around, I could play on a limited basis. :devil:

by the way guys: I LOVE MY NEW JOB!!!! Surfin' on the net when it's slow is definitely the greatest of the "lesser" fringe benefits.

 

[rayhuang]

THree races this winter people ran 1/10th GTP 6-cell stock at the Gate in Cleve, OH and they made our big-indoor track look small!!! And when they figured out rollout-the cars really flew!!! They were fun to watch-big and fast!!!

But they made an 8' lane look like a scale race track!!!

 

[CypressMidWest]

They were definitely fun to watch. Brought back memories of my early racing years, Giant cars on a not so Giant track (the original config. at the Gate). It's tight, but I remember racing 4-cell 1/12th in 4 ft. lanes, so it's all relative.

 

[Xpressman]

Ian,
I thought the last time 6-cell stock was a National class at the outdoor nats at Speedworld that 6-cell stock was faster then 4-cell mod. I do know 6-cell was won with a Corally. Maybe my memory is blurred by Paragon.

Brian

 

[CypressMidWest]

I know that Rob Michael won 6-cell stock with a Corally SP12G3, I think the lap times were similar, but I'm pretty sure the Mod guys still turned more laps in the 8 min. span. I don't know 100%, because I wasn't there, but that's what I was told.

I've had the opportunity to drive 6-cell stock, 4-cell Mod, and about 12 laps of six-cell Mod,(before I turned the six-cell Mod car I was driving into shrapnel), and my overall impression was that the six-cell stock car was, just as quick accelerating out of the corner, but lost a little steam compared to the 4-cell Mod car once the Mod motor stretched it's legs. Plus the 4-cell car could be driven far deeper into the corner, than the 6-cell stocker. I dunno maybe it was just my driving style. :devil:

 

[Greg Anthony]

Ian, I thought 6-cell anything would suite your driving style.... sideways, loose as hell and all over the place.... :roll: :dude:

 

[Taz_S]

Ian,
I thought the last time 6-cell stock was a National class at the outdoor nats at Speedworld that 6-cell stock was faster then 4-cell mod. I do know 6-cell was won with a Corally. Maybe my memory is blurred by Paragon.

Brian

Stock in the "A" turn 35 laps. Mod in the "A" 39. both in 8 min.