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Old 05-18-2009, 10:51 PM
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Details of the Moebius Jupiter 2 model

Since Frank Winspur has officially announced the Jupiter 2 model at WonderFest, I can tell you some details about the kit and show a few photos. A few factoids:

The studio set fit almost perfectly inside a 52 ft saucer, so that's what I used when I designed the model. The 1/35 scale saucer is a hair under 18" in diameter, which is the largest size that Moebius' budget could handle. (The price of tooling goes WAY up if you go any larger, and the kit would become too expensive for the mass market.)

I sent over 170 sheets of plans and more than 300 reference photos to Moebius.

Decals will be included.

I have a casting of the 4 ft hero model's hull, so I lofted its profile for the Moebius kit.

The entire upper half of the hull lifts off to reveal the interior. There's a lot of space between the interior walls and the edge of the saucer, so scratch-builders can have a field day adding the greebles & rooms we never saw.

The kit has TWO fusion cores - one with the fins extended, and one with the fins retracted.

The model has optional position landing gear, with landing gear wells, as well as outlines for the Chariot hatch and the Space Pod hatch.

The interior reflects the 3rd season version of the upper deck set, which didn't have lighted roof beams. Deleting the roof beams saves tooling costs and provides better access to the interior, but adding scratch-built roof beams should be very straightforward.

There's no lower deck, since it absolutely, positively won't fit inside the hull. Trust me!

The interior of the main airlock is represented, but Dave Metzner had to nix a sliding door for budgetary reasons, since the parts count was already way north of 200. Again, this shouldn't be hard to scratch-build, if you want.

There are a number of clear parts to facilitate lighting.

Dave and Frank allowed me to go absolutely crazy with interior detail, and the model is a near-perfect representation of the studio set. The elevator cage is a delicate work of art! I had help from several LIS experts, and I'll name names in a future article.

Here are a few early shots of the prototype model, which has undergone numerous changes since the photos were taken....


An overhead view of the prototype, with the ceiling soffit in place. The airlock floor hasn't been added yet.



The astrogator (the joystick controls will be in the deployed position on the final model)



One of the flight chairs. They can rotate, like the ones on the show, so the actors can talk to one another.



The circuit board panels will be cast in clear plastic, to simplify lighting




The elevator cage is a work of art. The clear floor panel is supported by crossed beams - just like the original



A few last words: while I was reviewing the LIS episodes on DVD, I noticed that details of the ship's interior would change seemingly from episode to episode. If the model doesn't have a certain feature you want, you can always scratchbuild the part or buy an aftermarket item. Don't criticize Dave Metzner too harshly if he didn't include every bell & whistle you wanted. Laying out all the kit's parts on a limited number of VERY expensive tools is way more complicated than I thought, and Dave did his best to provide the most bang for the buck. The J2 model ended up being far more detailed than first envisioned, and I commend Dave & Frank for allowing me to run hog wild.

That's it for now. I'll post more pics & answer questions later.

Cheers,

Gary

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Old 05-18-2009, 11:12 PM
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I'm speechless!...WOW, what an awesome work of art. I predict this will be Moebius' best selling kit by far. Thank you for the sneak peek Gary.
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Holy crap. It's gonna' be just awesome! You did one killer job with the design details! I'm in awe, and can't wait to see that box arrive in the mail! The Polar Lights J2 has been the quintessential kit for quite a while, this just surpassed it bu HUGE strides. Thank you guys so much for doing it. This is why Moebius will be an even bigger success than it already is, and around for many years to come. What you've given us all in the last year with these LIS kits is for many of us a lifelong dream. Again, thank you!
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I'm just speechless....... If this is just the prototype. I'm sheechless.
I need to now change my "Depends".
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I'm not a big LIS fan but even I might be tempted by that. I might do it as a UFO and stick some aliens in there.
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Wow! Either some of these photos weren't included in the slideshow at the booth, or I somehow missed them. I love the shot of the astrogator!
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Wow! Either some of these photos weren't included in the slideshow at the booth, or I somehow missed them. I love the shot of the astrogator!
I think I had 62 slides in the show at WF, so not everything was in there. I don't think I had these anyways. Can't wait to get one myself!
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Don't criticize Dave Metzner too harshly if he didn't include every bell & whistle you wanted.
Gary, I'm pretty sure this kit will result in the naming of firstborns, buying of drinks, and all-around hero worship for Dave. I don't think you gotta worry there!

And thank you as well, this looks more than amazing!
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I thought that last years' Seaview and this years' Flying Sub were going to be "it", but this Jupiter 2 is going to be, without a doubt, the crowning touch of my model kit building "career".
THIS is the one I've been waiting for, for the past 44 YEARS!!!
Thank you, Gary, Frank, Dave, and everybody else involved in this MAGNIFICENT project!
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Now,go forth and build something,until this wonderful model arrives..............thanks Frank and Dave and the rest............
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Oh my....

I'm swooning.....! That is one beautiful prototype and we've only seen parts of it. I love hearing about and seeing details that people have dreamed about, or killed themselves trying to find ways to cobble it together.

I knew after seeing the detail quality of the Space Pod & Chariot kits, that when a new Jupiter 2 kit was announced, it would not disappoint.

Not spending another dollar on models or model supplies until this kit comes out. I don't need more, trust me. The next model I'm buying will be this one.

Really looking forward to this!

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I need some clean underwear.......



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Old 05-19-2009, 12:26 AM
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I think I had 62 slides in the show at WF, so not everything was in there. I don't think I had these anyways. Can't wait to get one myself!
I took some of the pictures when Dave & I reviewed the first prototype this past March. At this point, it hadn't been determined which parts will be solid colored or clear. Before I hit the sack, here are some more pictures of the prototype:



The flight controls. I *think* Dave said somebody at WonderFest nagged him into casting the control panel in clear plastic (FYI, the center screen was sometimes shown rotated 180-degrees from this orientation)




The communications station to the right of the flight controls




Details of the wall behind the freezing tubes




Dave Metzner reassembling the prototype last March. The excess flooring outboard of the inner walls has since been scaled back.




A look inside a landing gear well before the side walls were installed




Sample plan of the ladder to the lower deck - one of 170+ similar plans




Floor plan of the area around the elevator & Space Pod door



Hope these pictures will keep you satisfied for a while. If you want, I can post some more, but it'll have to wait till I finish drawing some more artwork for the J2 decals and critiquing the 2nd test shot of the baby Seaview.

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