Rotor Measurement System

[MR-RMS]

I like to introduce to the RC world the RMS-1!

The RMS-1 is the next Tool the serious RC racer must have.

The RMS-1 is a 12.5mm rotor magnetic field indicator. The RMS-1 is unlike any other rotor checker on the market. The RMS-1 will AUTOMATICALLY align to the HIGHEST MAGNETIC field on the rotor that is being measured. The unit is simple and easy to use and will give the same measured reading every time. No more fussing around looking for the sweet spot-let the RMS-1 do it for you!

The Units are in production and will be available starting 5-7-08. I’ll be selling then online. The retail price will be $149.99.

Dealer and hobby store inquires welcome.

I look forward to answering any questions

For those racers that have already made an investment on the previous Gauss meter, I would like to offer you a new probe assembly for 12.3mm rotors. The new assembly uses the Rotor Measurement System of self alignment.

Google Video

The price is $39.99 plus shipping
If anyone is interested please email me for details

Thanks
MR-RMS
mr-rms@hotmail.com

[omnis85]

looks intresting, I sent you a pm, does this run off of a 9v?

[J-Dub Racing]

Interesting. We have been looking for something to test rotors. This just might be the tool.

[Racin'Jason 8]

Wow, JM, that was fast! Nice job on the auto-alignment.

[RCDEMON]

Three questions:
Which are the dimensions of the box?
Can it be recalibrated? Gaussmeters usually are calibrated on a regular basis. I think once a year.
After warranty is gone, how do you plan to support your product. 30 days seems kind of short to me.

[Racin'Jason 8]

What's to calibrate?

He said it has a "zero" function and since the number is only relative to zero and is not assigned units, this is not necessary. What is your true intent behind these questions RCDEMON? Does Zubak offer a calibration service?

...surely you didn't sign up for Hobbytalk just to ask these questions - eh?

[RCDEMON]

You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

[J-Dub Racing]

Even if they are calibrated they will still have different readings. Unless you intend to have the meter calibrated after every use it will very from meter to meter.

Let let the "owner" speak up before we get all crazy and have 5 pages of junk posts.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by RCDEMON

You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.

It's pretty unlikely that you will ever get 'exact' readings, from one guy's
unit, to another, in any sort of meter that is value priced...

This meter, which I have seen used, offers the owner reliable comparisons,
without the need to 'center', or 'sweet spot'.
Which to me, is every bit as inaccurate for two different users trying to
compare numbers.... what are the chances that two individuals, will
find the same spot, and then have both meters 'matched'?

I think both of these products, will give the end user numbers that he can
use to determine his better pieces.

If you want to get accuracy above that, then you'd better look at something
for more than a deuce.....

[pmsimkins]

Originally Posted by RCDEMON

You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

Since he isn't using a programmable Hall it can't really be calibrated. Nor would it need to be in this application.

Calibrated or otherwise two gauss meters, or more accurately two probes, don't typically read the same. Even the ones that 10x more expensive have that problem.

Also the measurement method itself has much much more error then the small amount of drift over time or variation when they get put together. If I handed two people the same calipers and the same foam tire I'll bet you 90% of the time you'll get two different measurements. Same principle here.

I doubt you really care anyway. I'm guessing your goal is just to be difficult.

[Racin'Jason 8]

Originally Posted by RCDEMON

You are wrong twice. First, calibration is necessary if you want to be able to speak the same language with other people using the same meter and compare readings.
Second, if you want to know about Zubak services, ask him.

We calibrate analog/digital devices in our lab everyday - there is no rocket science with these meters...it only displays an arbitrary number that its ADC spits out from an analog signal. Who cares about comparing numbers...you are searching for the best rotor in your box, right? The price is right and it looks cool.

I don't have to ask you about your services...I just visited your website.

You should think before you challenge people on such topics...how many points would YOU recommend these be calibrated at? How linear is YOUR sensor/circuit? Do you have temperature compensation? What is YOUR drift rating? Are YOUR reference standards NIST traceable...what is YOUR measurement uncertainty? Give me a break - this is a good, simple product.

Good job at keeping it simple, JB & JM .

[bluelineracer]

Just to interject one thing here.....
Nobody associated with the RMS product in it's initial post made any derogatory statements towards...well let's just say it...Zubie. I think now is the time to realize that there is honestly room for one, two or more products that provide this information. RC DEMON's post didn't degrade or disrespect anyone. I know there's loyalty involved on both sides but for the sake of maturity and decency, let's not turn this into another sharp-tongued battle of ego. I'm not a moderator....don't claim to be, but I've seen too many real life tragedies in the last month that I get tired of seeing p*ssing matches over stuff like this that is quite honestly insignificant.
Congrats to the RMS folks for a well packaged product and good luck as well. And, to Zubak as well for pioneering something that may provide the springboard for other ideas to generate.
If you've posted on this thread, I'm not attacking you, not my intent. There's a group of people in this hobby that work with this kind of information everyday in their "real" work and I appreciate their sharing of knowledge.

Respectfully,
Dusty Kemp

[Al Spina Fan]

Well Said DK.

I think the overall intent is to see which rotor is the best one in your or your buddies box. Being able to compare to others over the web would be nice for any product.

[JBRCells]

Here is the Image of the RMS-1

[MR-RMS]

Originally Posted by omnis85

looks intresting, I sent you a pm, does this run off of a 9v?

pm Sent
and yes the units are powered by 9v Batteries