Lefthander-RC 08, Car Setup & Support Q&A

Hays Jr · #1 01-23-2008, 07:44 PM

Well new year time for a new thread. Anyone with any questions for us weather its car setup or product questions I'll help the best I can. Racing all around the midwest and country the last few years I've had experience on lots of different tracks and situations. Our good old buddy Monti is always up for a good setup explanation as well haha.

I also need to thank everyone that has supported us over the years and I hope we have helped you in one way or another, your support is truly appreciated.

Hays Jr
www.lefthander-rc.com

Hays Jr · #2 01-23-2008, 08:12 PM

Also I thought I'd post some races coming up locally from around the WI area. This year we've seen excellent car counts all year long and some of the best racing in years among some great drivers. Between The Midwest Triclone and S&N Trackside Hobbies car counts have been ranging between 40-75 with lots of new faces and I hope that trend continues, I feel oval racing has gained some momentum as of late and hopefully it'll keep growing. The best thing we all can do is show up have fun and help eachother out.

Upcoming Race Dates:
*Jan 26th Sat. Midwest Triclone, West Bend WI
*Feb 9th Sat. Midwest Triclone, West Bend WI
*Feb 16th Sat. WBRL #3 @ Victory Hobbies in Green Bay WI
*Feb 17th Sun. S&N Trackside hobbies, Milwaukee WI
*Mar 1 & 2nd BRL race #6 @ Victory Hobbies in Greenbay WI
*Mar. 8th Sat. Midwest Triclone, West Bend WI
*Mar. 30th Sun. WBRL #4 S&N Trackside Hobbies, Milwaukee WI

*The track in Monroe WI races every Sunday now and they've been getting a good crowd down there as well.
*Victory Hobbies races every Thurday night as well

www.triclone.net
www.victoryhobbies.com
www.trackside.com
www.cheesecityxtremerc.com

see everyone at the track,
Hays Jr

MIDWESTRC · #3 01-23-2008, 10:01 PM

Hays jr, great idea !!!!!! I will be here, to get answers. Thanks

teamhooked13 · #4 01-23-2008, 11:40 PM

hi i need help w/ HD-3 slider i going the BRL at summit would run rear at that
track and if so how do i get the parts and how much 1/2 degree or more.
this is the first HD car.
seeya Dave

Mark #10 · #5 01-23-2008, 11:43 PM

How about some tips for a bulimic giraffe, on how to tighten a diff?

pmsimkins · #6 01-23-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark #10

How about some tips for a bulimic giraffe, on how to tighten a diff?

Sully's diff has always looked plenty tight to me!

Hays Jr · #7 01-24-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by teamhooked13

hi i need help w/ HD-3 slider i going the BRL at summit would run rear at that
track and if so how do i get the parts and how much 1/2 degree or more.
this is the first HD car.
seeya Dave

Dave,
I have never been a big fan of rear stear. If you can get the car to turn without it the car will be alot more forgiving and consistant to drive. If no matter what you do you cant get it to turn and the car is always tight then I would try it as a last resort, but no more that 1/2 deg. I see it kind of as a crutch. If you need any help stop by this weekend.

teamhooked13 · #8 01-24-2008, 10:00 AM

thanks seeya Dave

MIDWESTRC · #9 01-24-2008, 12:05 PM

Jr, how can I get Cody's car to stop oversteering on corner exit? I have tried more tweak, moving left rear tire out. But still does it. Any suggestions? Thanks

pmsimkins · #10 01-24-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MIDWESTRC

Jr, how can I get Cody's car to stop oversteering on corner exit? I have tried more tweak, moving left rear tire out. But still does it. Any suggestions? Thanks

I'm not Jr. but (in no particular order).......

RF moved out
Harder LF spring
Shim of preload on LF spring
Harder LF tire
Harder RR spring
Move side shocks one hole down
Offset offset, if you aren't already
Move the batteries forward

Make natural progression from minor change to major.

First step is shim of preload
if that doesn't work, take the shim out and go one step on the LF spring
If that doesn't work try the harder LF tire
If that doesn't work move the RF
From there go to the rear springs and chassis layout changes.

Hays Jr · #11 01-24-2008, 02:42 PM

Everything Pat said will definately help, but the first thing I always check is your chassis heights. Changing the heights on the chassis will change the attitude of the car more than anything else you can do. Keeping the chassis relatively level across the front and from front to back will help keep the car alot more balanced. I would start out by leveling out the chassis if it isnt and even if this makes the car tighter it will be more balanced and then you can always go lighter on the front springs or more camber gain or camber to try to get the front end more grip. Ideally I usually run 4.5mm clearance on the RF and LF and 4.5-5 mm by the LR of the batterytray and 5mm clearance under the rear pod. The LF is usually slightly lower that RF, and the RR is usually slightley higher that LR. Raising the RF, or lowering the rear end will help make the car not dig so much coming off the corner. Ideally your looking to either make the chassis more balanced or add rear grip first before you start taking away front grip.

Next thing I would try in this order is softer tires in the rear(if you can), preloading the RF spring, moving the batts forward, moving he RR tire IN if you can, and like pat said lastly moving the RF out on the chassis.

Hope that helps, if you still having problems talk to Jamie this weekend he can probably help you out.

Hope this helps, I'll see you at the next race in Feb.

Hays Jr · #12 01-24-2008, 03:15 PM

I just updated the website this morning and we have KSG parts back in stock.

Mark #10 · #13 01-24-2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmsimkins

Sully's diff has always looked plenty tight to me!

I was talking about Gansen!!

pmsimkins · #14 01-24-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark #10

I was talking about Gansen!!

I know!

But the reference fits Sully so well I couldn't resist.

pmsimkins · #15 01-24-2008, 03:36 PM

Hays, right on with the chassis heights. For the last few weeks I've made an effort to be a lot more particular with keeping my eye on that and it has paid off a lot, I think.

Here's a question pertaining to the chassis height deal, sort of. You're probably running a fiberglass T-Plate unless you've changed that up since I last saw your car. If you were running a SS T-plate would you shim the pod down at the T-plate to make up for the difference in thickness between a SS and FG plate? Do you think it makes any difference? Personally, I haven't been.