the tamiya gears are 48 pitch metric. when you change the gears out you will have to get a 90+ tooth spur, just so you can use different tooth count pinions. for general bashing fun i ran 90s 25p. but i suggest a robinson racing 93t spur. gives you more adjustability.

in the the long wheel base truck based on the poor quality monster tec chassis i ran 93/25 and a titan on seven cells, was very quick just not to fast.

welcome

and i love the TSC-1 chassis. it is alloy like stock no worries about the CF splitting.

Thanks guys, I guess it's time to get new brushes and a com cut on the D4 13 turnHE HE HE. Hopefully I will stretch in the near future. Hey Chris your not alone on the sorry driving, I have ran 2 batteries in it an it has spent a lot of time on it's top.

Well, the natural stance of a TLT, as far as I can tell is belly up! :freak:

You do get used to it's high center of gravity. There are folk out there that can make them fly! I could not believe how often I got lapped at MJ this summer. :cry: . I heard that one of the guys was going to put the Novak brushless into his for this weekends race! I just got the results and he ONLY came in second. You would have to understand how good a driver he is to understand how bad that is! I wonder what the winner was driving...

driving a BL tlt is insane. one of the guys i race with has a novak SS 5800 system in his. the no motor matenance is cool, but the thing is total out of control with half-full throttle. he ended up buying a new era wheelie bar to help keep the truck of it lid.

Yeah, Jay had made a whllie bar before he went to the race! Since it was carpet it didn't need to be huge- he flipped the rear bumper somehow and added some bushinngs. Looked pretty cool from the photos. Don't know how it worked though.

i saw one like that at one18. i only had wheelie issues for a short time. i had the penguin RC front axle servo mount for the Rws. acted like a wheelie bar.

Now what in the world could beat a brushless TLT? On a tight track, less is more, lol. Thank God JAy took the four wheel steering off the truck before he ran the brushless. I ahevn't checked them out for breakage yet (the brushless and winning trucks were both mine), but I did break the front right drive cup on mine during the first heat. I still managed 14 laps, and I was running the same 15 double that I ran at the summer monster jam. The track was considerably tighter than at the summer race, IMO, but I'll run this motor and gearing combo until somone whips me with something else... then I might have to clean my motor, LOL.

A set of claw dawgs and that Tobee-craft long wheelbase kit may be in store for the brushless set-up. That would be a serious racin machine :)
-Brian

Now what in the world could beat a brushless TLT? On a tight track, less is more, lol. Thank God JAy took the four wheel steering off the truck before he ran the brushless. I ahevn't checked them out for breakage yet (the brushless and winning trucks were both mine), but I did break the front right drive cup on mine during the first heat. I still managed 14 laps, and I was running the same 15 double that I ran at the summer monster jam. The track was considerably tighter than at the summer race, IMO, but I'll run this motor and gearing combo until somone whips me with something else... then I might have to clean my motor, LOL.

A set of claw dawgs and that Tobee-craft long wheelbase kit may be in store for the brushless set-up. That would be a serious racin machine :)
-Brian

that is what the BL tlt had for a set up when i drove it last. the owner has cought the long wheel base need from his friends:) but do you know if anyone got any video of the races?? sounds like fun. and congrates on the finish:)

Brian,
Tighter than this summer? OMG! Not from a TLT point of view, but from a Clod point of view. I was having steering issues but even when I wasn't it was tough to make the corners.

As always, it is my driving that sucks and I was always flipping on the carpet. Both you and JAy are such good drivers that you know how much to slow it down in the corners. As for brushelss? Other than the big straight, how much could it help?

Thanks for the congrats Ron. I know there were several people taking videos of the races, but I don't know if anyone taped the tlt races. I imagine they were pretty boring to watch with only 3 trucks.

Hey Chris, I was having steering issues with my twin force, but yeah, the track was REALLY tight for the big trucks. I also can't take too much credit for the tlt win. The truck itself handles like it's on rails, all I did was drive. The brushless tlt was wy faster, but the "long" straight was only 2/3 of the total track length. Anytime Jay would get close, there would be a turn and he went rolling, lol. We actually switched controllers about 1 minute into the second heat and he was smoking me with the nonbrushless.

I think the other tlt (the one that wasn't mine, lol) was running a 15 turn motor and it was considerably faster than mine, but the suspension was too stiff and it was on it's lid in every other turn.
-Brian

BD,

what is your current setup?
i am buying the tobee set secound hand to re-build a indoor monster and a bit of a speed demon. but no 15t motors. was thinking maybe a 17x2. you know something cheap;) thanks

Yeah, what rubber were you running? I currently have M2K's on my PRP but I had to take them off the front of the Pede at MJ to keep it off it's lid. I can't imagine using them on the TLT on carpet.

I'm running the truck pretty close to stock. Full bearings, futaba stock steering servo, gm v6r (or v4r, I can't remember), center diff locked with traxxas pegs, light oil in the shocks (20 or 25wt), and stock wheels and tires.

The light oil makes a big difference, my truck really leans into the turns and allows for more speed to be carried through. The other trucks I've seen with handling trouble had much stiffer suspension and on the high traction carpet, they roll as soon as the wheels are turned. If I were going to modify it to run faster at rcavenue, I'd go with the tobee craft and claw dogs. Stock pede tires are the hot ticket for that carpet, but they're so darned heavy that I think there would be a lot more driveline breakage. Wild Willy 2 rims and tires are another great option from what I've heard.

Gearing is the stock spur with a 21 tooth pinion. I get about 25 minutes of runtime on the stock 1700 pack, so I think I could gear up another 3 teeth on the pinion. At the end of 25 minutes running, the motor is room temperature.
-Brian

What exactly is the Tobee Craft kit?

It's a kit that I've seen on ebay (Jason's Ebay store, I think). It extends the wheelbase by an inch, comes with 8 links and 2 driveshafts, all anodized blue. It's a nice looking kit. I'm thinking of getting one and running a midnight pumpkin body on a tlt.
-Brian

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44022&item=5948726422
There's a link to the kit on eBay (http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1606754-2202639)http://www.awltovhc.com/image-1606754-2202639... he also has a track widening kit.
-Brian

just a fyi on th etobee cvds! they have a issue holding the set screw in place. ho502cid at rcmt has gone through 4 set screws. and the only place to get replacements is tobee. they are not exspensive but take two weeks to get them. i pland to run slidders instead of the cvds, i have a 4tec diff to mod for one tlt.

and vertigo has a new tlt locker that will bolt the traxxas slidders right on.

and vertigo has a new tlt locker that will bolt the traxxas slidders right on.

Got a link for that? I figure I can make my own links and would prefer to use sliders.

Is one inch longer enough to mae a big difference?

Never mind. found it! (http://www.vertigoperformance.com/products/txt1/1108.html)

Just got an e-mail from them explaining why the price was only $25. It seems they miss machined it so the shafts are .05mm too large for the yokes to fit on, requiring modifications to the "U joint". That seems like an awfully small mismatch! I would think you could just jam the plastic ones right over that. Thoughts?

i read a post thet the metal yokes fit with no mods at one18th.com i know two people who have built the units with little to no mods to the outputs. i will email my friend an ask if he had to mod it for the plastic yokes, and i do think they are worththe $25. but i have a outcast rc one off spool, and spent $30+ for 4tec diff parts to mod it to work. or i would buy one.

well here is the update on the locker. ho502cid from rcmt modded the yoke and not the locker.

hope this helps chris

Sounds good enough for me! Especially since I have a set of the steel outdrives. I want this for my "other" TLT. Of course I don't have anything but the tranny at this point but I have dreams! I envision a low chassis, holding the stock tranny with the battery mounted sideways behind the motor, just above the upper links. This should get the CG down quite a bit. I think i will make it out of wood first, just to see if it fits together. Having a scroll saw makes me want to create exoticly shaped goodies!

This is all dependent on my finishing about a zillion house project first, of course. :rolleyes:

This is all dependent on my finishing about a zillion house project first, of course. :rolleyes: i just have to keep moving or i lose my train of thought. i have to hunt down another rock crawling area. the improvements they made to the baseball feilds leveled the whole area.......:drunk: it would be nice in the winter for a mud bogg but not much beyond that.

I just put a vertigo locker in my tlt tonight and all i did was file a flat on the shaft and slide on the yoke so now there are 2 flatsfor set screws.
I have also seen where people have had trouble assembling the pede sliders the pin will press out of the u-joint and can be pressed back in through the yoke then you don't weaken the yoke.
now just to figure out the link lengths :thumbsup:

Slo, thanx for the input! Not sure whether people have been getting the "good" Vertigo lockers or this bad run. I am pretty sure I can make it fit and work. As for the links? heck, I still have to design the chassis! :p

welcome slo1!

what is your current set up?

Right now I am running a stock motor, m-tronics prodigi esc,6cell 3300 batt,
novak xl reciever with 4ws controlling it by a futaba 3ch pcm radio from my racing vehicles.
The chassis is stock for now and I am stretching the links but I cant decide how far to go. The wheel base will only be 9" so far but i don't know if i want to cut the sliders.

just a update or two. the TSC-10 chassis will be sent back early next week for final prep before cnc milling or the production units. for those who want to know i did a test fit of a emaxx tranny and it will fit inside the chassis rails and i will take some pics of how it sits when the tear down begins.

moster jam this weekend with the family was fun. :)

we did the pit party. but no Denis Anderson in the new digger. mice guy driving digger 15 though. signed two autographs and pics with the kids.

but if their are any pics you wan tto see of the tsc-10 and haven't yet post here andi will do my best;)

well i have been having fun with the TSC-1 chassis truck. no real rock crawling(my spot has been leveled out!) but lots of man made obsticles. the chassis makes the truck feel truely huge.

we have one tlt-10 built based on the monster tec(pos) chassis, the Wb difference betweene the tsc-10 and the tlt-10 is about 1 inch. not much. booth trucks were run with cut pede tires with and without inet rc clod wheel wideners and claw dogs by imex.

the tlt-10 is fun and more capible in the out doors then a stock tlt. it was fun to build tweek and run.

the TCS-10 is is a whole new beast. it could do things that the tlt-10 could only do with perfect drive angles and the aid of the extended wheel hexes. even with the batt mounted in the front the truck feels ballance and stable.


have done a lot of bash and crash. and the damage report is a axle shaft and a stripped yoke mount on the pede tranny. and that is not bad since i was in total carnage mode with this truck.

am very impressed with the simplicity and durability of this chassis. it in it's self is like the tlts axles. a very solid base to run as is, or a mad od'ers starting point. i have tweeked changed, bashed and broke my truck(s) in all it's phases and not one inpresses me as much as the TSC-10.

:cool:

That certainly is high praise! Can you put a finger on what about the chassis is ptting that huge smile on your face?

i think the simplicity of it, no special battery packs. the fact it's alloy(truck got knocked off my kitchen counter and it didn't phase it) and not cf/g10 for long term durability. what this chassis does it takes all the micro out of the truck. it is one of those things that has "it". like a pro athlete, what ever it is it has IT. hope that makes sense.

i like RCs that have flexability. this thing can crawl, play in the mud, run, jump or what ever you want to set up for. and their is no compromise.

if you have anymore questions just ask.

OKay, one more question: What is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow?

never mind. It is Friday and my mind is toast.

OKay, one more question: What is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow?

never mind. It is Friday and my mind is toast.

LOL

:)

have a nice weekend all!

OKay, one more question: What is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow?

9.258 fps.

Anything else?:freak:

Would that be for an African or a European Swallow?

Well, I figured I had better get out and play a bit before the snows hit. Wrapped up my ESC and receiver iin plastic, charged a batt and headed out the door.

The truck ran great for a couple minutes until a drive shaft popped off but by that point it was pretty much a snowball anyway!

This is when I had just begun to frolic,
http://home.comcast.net/~c.t.harris/TLT/snowTLT1.jpg

This was after Jesse got done with it!
http://home.comcast.net/~c.t.harris/TLT/snowTLT2.jpg

Brought it in and blew it off with the air gun. Finally decided to melt off the snow with a hair dryer and THEN blow it dry. Lots of water in the basement now!

Lots of water in the basement now! at least you know were it all came from!

LOL! So true! I hate going down there and wondering why we have puddles! We got 4" more snow over dinner. They are saying 18-24" by the time it is done...

12" and still going strong...

Things sound bad back there. You doing OK?

All taken care of! I will have to get a shot of my car now that it is dug out! Don't want to go into any low ceiling garages!

any updates on anybodies trucks?

plays with toys got the prot type back friday.
will post when the production units ship.

Hey all! I saw an ad on RCMT for a TLT that looks pretty sweet. I was really just looking for a ser off axles to do up with my stockish chassis (although it would have the locker and sliders). Came across:
Tamiya graphite chassis
Hitec 645mg high torque servo
locked centre diff with traxxas slipper pegs
proline tires
hpi rims
penguin r/c servo mount, not installed
sport tuned stock tamiya motor
tobee craft wheelbase kit
tobee craft wheel widener kit
not quite full bearings, there are some bearings in the hubs.
includes original tires/rims

I'm looking to get $200

The pix look nice. I like all the blue in the Tobee stuff. What do you think?

the price is good, the tamiya chassis is just a look pretty upgrade, and the tobee stuff scratches easy. but i think you could sell off what you don't want. the tobee wheel wideners are very nice and work very well.

if you got the cash go for it!

:)

What would the Tobee wideners and long wheelbase stuff cost? I already know of somebody who spoke up about the guy parting it out.

hey all,

just got my TLT-10 project finished (until more mods) and was wondering about the durability of the belt drive unit. i installed a tensioner to improve belt contact so slipping won't be an issue.

BUT, with 13/96 gearing on a Titan w/ 6 cells, i'm wondering how long til this thing grenades. it pulls like crazy and has way too much torque (in other words, just enough). so, how much abuse can the belt take? or should i just put in a Stealth trans and be done with it?

pics later, i promise

i ran a titan on 7cells(93s,20p) for many months in one truck. the biggest killer for the belts is hardcore crawling. if your going to bash i would say 6 months atleast. maybe more.

well here it is in all its glory. i did the usual T-Maxx turnbuckles, extended the drive shafts with 3/16 brake line, locked all 3 diffs, gave it 4ws and made a nifty 4+2 battery pack that fits under the front deck. 4 on top and 2 underneath. Evader rear shocks all around. as you can see it has enough articulation. now all i need is some decent weather.

tell me what ya think

truck looks good!

you will have to give us a report of how it does.

nice to have some traffic here again.:dude:

well, looks like Im going to have to break out the TLT again. carpet season isnt over yet, but I have two weeks off from school soon, so that should give me some time to work on it. would anyone here happen to have a CAD drawing of PWT's chassis? I was going to buy one but realized I wanted my electronics set-up different.