http://superherohype.com/news/fantasticfournews.php?id=2149

Chiklis looks pretty good! The make-up looks very reminiscent of the the Thing's earliest appearances in the comics! Thanx for sharing this, Scott!

- GJS

Ya' Know as great as that Costume Looks and btw I'm glad that the Filmmakers are Going with REAL "Physical Effects" rather than Cgi as in The Hulk or Van Helsing. although I prefered the More Geometricly Rendered Thing as he was Drawn in Most Comics of the 1970's to the "Lumpy" Earlier Version. Now I'd like to go back and see how close the Chiklis Suit Looks like the Concept Model that was At "Wonderfest or one of the other Conventions/Shows I saw some Pictures of? IIRC they also had that Early Look/Design Well I'd say the Casting looks pretty faithful though although Reed seems pretty Young at least to my own personal Translation of the Comics I just saw Reed as being a little older. and isn't the new Sue Storm that little Hottie from that Jim Cameron Alias Type Show? Dark Angel was the title right? don't Recall Either Actor Playing Reed or Johnny Storm But I'll Check IMDB I love that Place! lol

JOHN/LONFAN

I may be crazy, but I like the Thing suit from hte movie from the 90's.
Isn't the Thing supposed to be larger, almost as big as the Hulk?
(they used to have some great fights in the comics)

I may be crazy, but I like the Thing suit from hte movie from the 90's.
Isn't the Thing supposed to be larger, almost as big as the Hulk?
(they used to have some great fights in the comics)
The Thing suit in the first movie wasn't bad. This version looks a little more realistic to me. As to his size - that depends on the era/artist you're talking about. The original artist - Jack Kirby - drew him as relatively normal sized. I'd much rather see the approach the filmakers are taking here than a fully CGI approach.

Maybe they're shooting him in forced persective to make him look larger.
It's cheap and it works better than any optical compositing.

Maybe they're shooting him in forced persective to make him look larger.
It's cheap and it works better than any optical compositing.
Worked very well in "Lord of The Rings".

And relatively well in Xena.
Relatively.

That's looking better. More 'rocky'. Yo! Adrian! I mean Alicia.

The Thing got bigger as time went by. Perhaps the film shows him growing bigger every day. He was always smaller than the Hulk, using his brains to even it up. ( okay the gray Hulk did fight the larger spikey Thing once) A good HvT fight would be great. Maybe in sequel 3.

Well, Ben looks cool, but I'm still partial to Sue Storm :devil:

http://www.dramaticmovies.about.com/library/graphics/fantasticfourpubb.jpg

this makeup looks a bit different from the publicity painting,um, photo that was released previously, and quite a bit better. theres seems to be a progression towards the rockier thing we know now going on.

i liked the corman version of the thing, but the fact that his facial articulation was entirely animatronic made him seem like an orange lumpy ninja turtle. optic nerve is a good fx makeup company, but a puppet looks like a puppet.

i'll hand this to them though... optic nerves dr. doom helmet was superb. absolutly perfect.

Not to stray Off Topic But do any of you recall a period of time in the mid 70's when the Thing had somehow changed back to Ben Grimm, This nessitated Reed Building a Perfect "Thing" Costume? I can only recall that in one Panel of this Issue They had Ben/Thing Chained to a Wall,The Only way he could escape was to activate some sort of Emergency Release Allowing him to Climb out of the Suit(Since the Restraints were Tightened to Fit Thing's Wrists) IIRC this wasn't a Dream Sequence BUT of course he(Ben) eventually Changed back. Does this Plot sound Familiar?

JOHN/LONFAN

BTW ANY Word who's Playing Doom in this one? I herd it was a Guy from the FX Series "Nip/Tuck" (Great Show by the way) Anyhoo I can't remember his name but it's the Guy who also was on "Buffy The Vampire Slayer"

BTW ANY Word who's Playing Doom in this one? I herd it was a Guy from the FX Series "Nip/Tuck" (Great Show by the way) Anyhoo I can't remember his name but it's the Guy who also was on "Buffy The Vampire Slayer"

According to IMDB.com, it's Julian McMahon:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573037/

It doesn't list BUFFY among his credits though.

I must say, even as a red-blooded American male, that I am NOT happy with Sue Storm.

I know all about marketing in Hollywood and how each movie has to be "sold" to the public. I don't feel that will be too diffcult in the case of The Fantastic Four. Superhero films are hot right now and there's no better time to spring FF on audiences.

Still, I am very concerned that this will turn into some T&A debacle. I hope it's sold as a serious action/superhero film and that the trailers aren't advertising Reed's "all-over" elasticity or Sue turning visible without her costume. Know what I mean? Hollywood has messed up myriad times and I'd hate to see that happen here.

I'll hold out hope with Chiklis as The Thing. He's won me over with his work on The Shield.

According to IMDB.com, it's Julian McMahon:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573037/

It doesn't list BUFFY among his credits though.
That's 'cause he was on "Charmed," not Buffy :)

For awhile Grimm did wear a suit that was an exo-skeleton. For awhile he could change at will. Then for awhile the "rocks" that made up his skin were altered(don't remember how) to a more jagged, pointed look. Then there was She-Thing who started out as Ms. Marvel. Doc Doom did something to her to make her an ugly Thing. I thing she tried to commit suicide over it once. Also in the seventies there was a storyline dealing with the alternate Earth created by The High Evolutionary. The F.F. went there to help prevent Galactus from making a snack of it. Galactus had sworn never to consume to real Earth, so A.E. was fair game. This was the story where The Impossible Man showed up and Galactus ended up eating a fake A.E. that the Impossible Man had created and he "died" of indigestion. Anyway, on Alternate Earth Reed Richard was the one turned into The Thing. He stowed away on the ship back to Earth and replaced the real Reed who he had tossed into the Negative Zone. The Reed/Thing from A.E could change at will but looked completely different, a big purple guy who I think was called The Brute or something. I prefer the storyline from the Lee/Kirby days of the '60s. Grimm is stuck as The Thing and is so consumed by self pity that he cannot realize how human he really is. That his heroism, love of his friends, and most importantly, his self sacrifice are what truly make him human. This is expressed more than once by his sacrificing a chance to become "normal", the thing he wants most in life, to save others. A theme we also see with Spider-Man. His best friend Reed Richards, who blames himself for what happen to Ben and out of guilt will never rest until he finds a cure. Alicia Masters, blind, who can only see the true Ben Grimm. Stan knew how to write a story. These were real people not just comic book super-heroes. Hard to believe that Stan Lee wrote ALL the books back then. Stan IS the man.
As my dear old Aunt Petunia use to say "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME"
Or was that The Yancy Street Gang? EXCELSIOR!

Looks good to me. An artist on the first Batman movies said that what looks good drawn on a page can look goofy when done with a live actor, I think he's right. That is the challenge of bringing comic heros to live action. The look of the suit seems to be a compromise between the lumpy and rocky Thing.

The look of the suit seems to be a compromise between the lumpy and rocky Thing.LUMPY:
http://www.collectinghollywood.com/FBank.1.jpg

ROCKY:
http://www.zoo.ufl.edu/gpryor/stallone.fitness.jpg

- GJS

I must say, even as a red-blooded American male, that I am NOT happy with Sue Storm.

I am very concerned that this will turn into some T&A debacle. I hope it's sold as a serious action/superhero film
Ever seen "Dark Angel"?

That's 'cause he was on "Charmed," not Buffy :)

OOPS My Bad I never have seen but a Couple of EITHER Show But I like that lil' Red Head on Buffy (I'm Sure It's BUFFY!lol) The Girl who was in American Pie "Then There Was That Time In Band Camp" lol By the way The Girl who was in the LIS Movie (the Hurt/Oldman Deal) Has Really Aged WELL! lol I was watchin' a Film called Mean Girls (My Daughter was watchin it Actually) Anyhoo there she was All Grown Out eh, UP! lol And Of course there is the Newest "Judy Robinson" Heather Grahm I don't care much for Blondes but even I can tell she is Nice! lol BUT I digress In Summation Sorry for my Error on Mr. McMahon. But Try Watchin Nip/Tuck Great Show!
JON/LONFAN

Frets...

Nope, I haven't seen Dark Angel. I've heard some good things about it, though.

Still, simply because she is a featured performer, it doesn't mean that all of her subsequent projects will have the same tone or approach. Is the creative team behind Dark Angel associated iwth the FF production? I may be in the dark on that front.

Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong!!

OOPS My Bad I never have seen but a Couple of EITHER Show But I like that lil' Red Head on Buffy (I'm Sure It's BUFFY!lol) The Girl who was in American Pie
Alyson Hannigan. And you're not alone being madly in love with her :)

http://img.actressarchives.com/alyson/hannigan025.jpg

Frets...

Nope, I haven't seen Dark Angel. I've heard some good things about it, though.

Still, simply because she is a featured performer, it doesn't mean that all of her subsequent projects will have the same tone or approach. Is the creative team behind Dark Angel associated iwth the FF production? I may be in the dark on that front.

Nope, DA was produced by James Cameron. We could only wish he was doing FF!

Definitely..... having James Cameron be the force behind FF?

Now that would be something to look forward to.

Definitely..... having James Cameron be the force behind FF?

Now that would be something to look forward to.

I for one would reather have a decent script, something Cameron seems incapable of.

OH YEAHHHHH! DATS HER JOHN!!!! lol


Lonfan

Frets...

Nope, I haven't seen Dark Angel. I've heard some good things about it, though.

Still, simply because she is a featured performer, it doesn't mean that all of her subsequent projects will have the same tone or approach. Is the creative team behind Dark Angel associated iwth the FF production? I may be in the dark on that front.

Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong!!
Nope, different production team altogether. I can't answer for the "tone" of the FF movie, but besides being a pretty hot young lady, Jessica Alba is definitely capable in the action department. If you ever get a chance to see some of her fight sequences in "Dark Angel" you'll see what I mean...

Dark Angel still tanked. Film directors can't do TV, and 90 pound girls don't look tough to me.

Unfortunately, I don't think they gave "Dark Angel" enough time to find it's audience. The first season was VERY well done (IMHO anyway), but season two blew chunks and almost certainly ensured it's demise.

I think the whole point of Manticore was to create ultimate soldiers that didn't look like Terminators. To that end, I still say Jessica Alba did a credible job with "Max."

Hey Guys, What was that FOX Series that didn't last very long?There this guy ended up in his own Virual Reality Game (ala Tron) But this game looked like a dark alley in a bad Neighborhood and there was some really well built Amazon Woman (ala Lara Croft) that was Stalkin' him She wore very Revealing Armor or Leather Kind of a Matrix Deal as well.This VERY short lived show came on Friday Evenings iirc this was around 98' or 99' Kinda reminded me of Dark Angel both shows had a Similar look.Hmm, now that I think about it, Perhaps it was UPN? I Know my discription is Close anyhoo I can't recall this show evering being Reaired or on DVD's Thanks Does Oh and MAYBE this is the Show that had Lori Singer (Marc's Sister) in a leading Role.

JON/LONFAN

Here's a two minute promotional clip (rough edit). The effects look promising.

http://www.themoviebox.net/media.php?subaction=showfull&id=1099262899&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

If the shooting script is any indication "F-4" is destined to become the best superhero movie since "Catwoman".

...having James Cameron be the force behind FF?...

They should be so lucky.

If the shooting script is any indication "F-4" is destined to become the best superhero movie since "Catwoman".That bad? Looks like the teaser has been pulled. Sorry.

Check out these imaginary comics related movie posters:

http://www.americancomicshop.fsnet.co.uk/page4.htm

click on the thumbnails for a larger view.

- GJS

Check out these imaginary comics related movie posters:

http://www.americancomicshop.fsnet.co.uk/page4.htm

click on the thumbnails for a larger view.

- GJS
Fun! Particularly like Sam Peckinpah's Captain America and Dustin Hoffman as Wolverine.

I command this thread to rise from the dead. RISE!

The local paper has a shot of the FF. It is going to fail. A teenage bimbette 'hottie' as Sue, a male model as Reed, a club kid as Johnny, and while Ben doesn't look too bad, he's but not big and rocky enough. Maybe he 'hulks out' to a cgi version.

The article is called Fourplay. Cute. I think that's appropriate though. This movie will be just foreplay without going all the way.

Still, I am very concerned that this will turn into some T&A debacle. I hope it's sold as a serious action/superhero film and that the trailers aren't advertising Reed's "all-over" elasticity or Sue turning visible without her costume.

What would be visible if both characters were in an...er...love embrace and she turned invisible? Would a certain part turn invisible too leaving only a cross-section visible?....with blood vessels sending blood up and disappearing?
....or would Mr. Fantastic's pride be on display?

No wonder I never bought Marvel Comics! They conjure up some images I wouldn't want in my head!

No wonder I never bought Marvel Comics! They conjure up some images I wouldn't want in my head!

I was never one to buy Marvel Comics either. I was always more of a DC fan.

- GJS

As a kid....Marvel comics were just too expensive for me. They always had continued stories in them while DC rarely did. My choice was 1) buy a DC comic with complete stories in it for only 12 cents...or 2) hound my dad every month to try to convince him to buy me a run of a Marvel comic title to get a complete story..12 cents times the number of issues containing the multi-part story. Since I had to depend on my dad to buy my comics for me, I couldn't count on getting every issue. This made those continued stories a big drag for me whenever I missed an issue. In the pre-comic book shop days, if you missed an issue, you MISSED that issue for GOOD!


Besides....Superman could've pounded Spider-Man any day of the week unless some cheesy "red-sun" effect or somesuch weakened him enough to approximately Spidey's panty-waist (lack of) strength. ;)

.....and Batman was just cooler than any blind DareDevil could ever hope to be!...."You lost to a blind guy? You deserve to be in jail!"

Yeah. It was especially tough following those "Avengers" storylines: Cap gets pissed off at Ant Man, everybody fights for 5 pages, Cap leaves. Next issue, Hawkeye joins - Thor gets pissed off at Iron Man, everybody fights for 5 pages, Iron Man leaves. Next issue, Ant Man gets real big, gets a new costume and renames himself Giant Man. Next issue, Giant Man gets pissed off at Hawkeye, everybody fights for 5 pages, Hawkeye leaves. Next issue, Giant Man gets a new costume and changes his name to Goliath. Next issue, The Vision joins The Avengers - the cool Stan Lee title of the issue is "Behold: The Vision!" Thor decides it's getting too damned crowded. Everybody fights for 5 pages. Thor leaves. Next issue, Goliath gets real small again, gets a new costume, and renames himself Yellowjacket ...

I loved that stuff!:)

Marvel had an ongoing series of villains too, who get killed or escape. DC have the same few bad guys, who get caught, sent to a loony bin, then break out and come back a few months later. Repeat as needed.