I should also note that I sent Novak a message asking for the specs for their controler a couple days ago, and so far have not recieived a answer...

Kevin, where did you get the specs for Novak? I assume you took it appart and found part numbers and looked up the specs on those? Do we really know that the Novak controler couldn't handle the LRP motor or anohter of that type/wind?

Oh, anohther thing Kevin... When you going to come race oval brushless with us in Lansing? My Novak system is on it's way, and I hope to have it in a car and racing this weekend....

which one 4300 or 5800

I ordered both... my wife called earlier today and said a package arived at the house, so I assume that my order has arived. I wasn't sure what to put in there first... I was kinda leaning toward the 5800... but who knows.... I guess it's just three wires to unsolder and a couple screws to change it... but Hey... I sure hope that we can settle this to one motor soon... cause I really don't want to have to keep removing my motor since part of the whole reason for going brushless for me was so I didn't have to do work...

hope to have enough for both classes at lansing this fri. if you don't like the idea of changing motors just pick up another car and set one up for 4300 and the other up for 5800 sounds easy but is expensive

Kevin, where did you get the specs for Novak? I assume you took it appart and found part numbers and looked up the specs on those?

Lucky guess. :lol: Actually, the spec sheet and the web site have specs for on resistance, but I think they listed the resistance for a single FET. It should have been doubled. (unless the exact FET they're using is better than the similar one I found info on. The part number wasn't an exact match.)

Do we really know that the Novak controler couldn't handle the LRP motor or anohter of that type/wind?

Beats me. I'll let someone else test this out.

Oh, anohther thing Kevin... When you going to come race oval brushless with us in Lansing? My Novak system is on it's way, and I hope to have it in a car and racing this weekend....

I've been working overtime and on saturdays, so haven't been able to make it to Lansing for oval night. I also have retired from pan car racing, so when I come it'll be for Legends.

Yeah Kevin, Put a brushless in a legends,,, That oughta make Colosky roll his eyes!!!

Actualy... I think 4300 brushless Lengend would be cool... but so would a 4300 spec pan car class... Maybe even using those truck bodys...

I still haven't seen the specs for the Novak at their site... I've looked a couple differnt times. I guess I'll have to go back and look some more...

Specs for what, http://www.teamnovak.com/products/esc/ssplus/ssplus_esc.htm

With the LRP/Reedy system coming soon, this was exactly what I expected from Novak. All they had to do was change the software (and the sticker) and you've got a brushed ESC. The electrical specs are the same. Notice how all 3 phase wires go to the minus terminal on the DC motor. The LRP is probably the same. Now we just need Deans to come up with a high-amperage 3-phase connector to make swapping motors or running brushed mode more convenient.

Now... if they'd just offer firmware updates and let the SS owners upgrade for free... :) but that wouldn't make them any money...

I think I'll wait for the fully programable features to show up in a controler... timing, throttle/brake curves, etc... This new Novak doesn't seem to offer anything that would be a competitive advantage to anyone who already has the SS... and quite frankly I don't see the ablity to run a brushed motor as being very interesting, but then hey it doesn't cost the manufacture much if anything to throw it in... One of those marketing things I think.

You know Castle Creations already has timing, throttle/brake curves, etc... in there 18th scale brushless stuff. It really is just a matter of time before it shows up in higher power stuff... Castle Creations even plans on making upgrades to firmware available, in fact they already have in the Mamba-25 product. They are talking about traction control and anti-lock braking... They have a HV car system announced with no release date yet... I like Castle's approach so far, and really hope they enter the performance 4-7 cell car market soon.

over the weekend we had our first state champs race with both the 4300 and the 5800 classes included there were 10 4300's and i believe we had 6 5800's. these were some of the best races of the day. in the 4300's ernie p. won by a lap on the field but the rest of the drivers put on quite a show in the 5800's it was one of the best races of the weekend with jamie hansen taking the win both ernie and jamie were running leading edge cars congrats to all the winners in all the classes i would like to thank nick and the hobby hub crew for putting on another great race day

Actualy I'm pretty sure Ernie was running a KSG chassis with his 4300 brushless. I think he was running LE with his stock brushed car... I also beleive he will soon be moving from the KSG to the LE in his brushless... Lord help us if he's even faster with a LE and his brushless 4300...

Another noteworthy thing is that Walter Henderson TQed 19 Turn brushed class with something like 64 laps, and the TQ for 5800 brushless was like 63 laps. Now, there were only two cars running in the 19T brushed heats, so, he had a clear track the whole time, but then most of the 5800 qualifers were also pretty clean... but still, it pretty clearly shows that a 19T brushed setup can be every bit as fast as a 5800 brushless setup... and well, they are very close really.

Thanks for getting back to me Hobby