alright i have a hpi savage but i wanna get a electric off road and i was thinking of getting the rc10t4 because i think it is a good truck is it good?

uhm.......As a losi owner myself.........no............

The RC10T4 is a very good truck. I personally own a Losi XXXT Matt Francis 2 because of my aggressive driving style. Either or is good. I just preffer my truck because I personally like Losi better.......But thats just me. But the T4 is a very good truck and may be a very good successful choice for you. :thumbsup:

-Dustin K. :cool:

uhm.......As a losi owner myself.........no............


yea nice one lets make more people like you, why dont try giving him help instead of your views and what u like :freak: :freak:



ok here is what i would do go to your local hobbyshop and see what they carry parts for and what other people are running so u can get set up help :thumbsup:

Chill out dude,

he is just saying no to the question.

ok here is what i would do go to your local hobbyshop and see what they carry parts for and what other people are running so u can get set up help :thumbsup:
I have a T-4(my opion built for the racer) and love it. My friends have tried to convince me to buy a MF2(has more bang for the beginner but the FT T-4 is comming out) just so they can help me with set-ups. Most of the guys that I race with have Losi and I do not always have much help with set-ups. Ask a Losi guy and he will say Losi and an AE guy he will say AE but find what you can get the most help with and have the most parts available for repairs. Most hobby shops carry more of one brand than the other or equal amounts AE/Losi.

I had them both and still have a mf2... The t4 is a good truck great steering and really can take it out of the box and win.. But the question is how many steering arms and A arms are you gonna break... The mf2 is more aggresive and doesnt break and out accelerates the t4 honestly... There both good trucks and its tuff to say a better .. Wish ae would make a little better front end ..

well one of my friends has one and it took him along time to hook up so now he is getting a mf2
plus i run all losi also

. But the question is how many steering arms and A arms are you gonna break... Wish ae would make a little better front end ..
I haven't broke any A-arms yet but have broken both L/R steering arms(from too much contact with the tubes). and also problems with servo saver being overtightened-corrected with heavy duty spring, stock one to weak and I overtightened to compensate for lack of steering(stripped bell crank out twice before the problem was noticed). They should have put the heavy duty spring on at the factory.

:eek: I been loyal to the Team Associated. I have a T3 now and I want to upgrade. That Matt Francis xxx 2 Is what I'm leaning towards. Also thanks to my friend Dustin. I know all of my local hobby shop are big in stocking Associated parts and Losi parts are harder to come by but I think it's a better truck. The t4 is to fragile thats what I love about my T3 it's tougher but the T4 is faster in the corners.

I had them both and still have a mf2... The t4 is a good truck great steering and really can take it out of the box and win.. But the question is how many steering arms and A arms are you gonna break... The mf2 is more aggresive and doesnt break and out accelerates the t4 honestly... There both good trucks and its tuff to say a better .. Wish ae would make a little better front end ..
Out accelerates? You must be crazy. Any truck weather it is AE or Losi is good. I run a T4 and am very fast usally an A- main contender every week just ask Dustin,David,and jim runnit. Set up is the key,driving skills make you win not the truck. Not just a FAST motor!!!!!!, DAVID W. :jest:

Actually i am not crazy And i have the prove to back it up .. October of rc car action took 6 drivers and gave them a FT T4 and a Mf2 and they all said the same thing i did .. (quote the mf2 out accelerates the t4)and faster in the turns ..The t4 has a 2.61 tranny and the mf2 has a 2.56 hmmm Thats a lower drive transmission.

Actually the T4 has a 2.60 tranny, same as B4, GT. But thats close.
The T4 should be more efficient. I use to have Losi vehicles and they made the motors work a little harder becuase of the ratio. Which meant frequent rebuilds on motors.
I think the reason the MF2 out accelerates the T4 is because of the lower ratio. The T4 seams to spin the wheels alot. :thumbsup:

Either one is an excellent choice.

well i tried my friends t4 and it felt like my mf2 accelerates quicker

i have a friend that has a t4 and a friend that has the mf2 and it basically comes down to drivers skill they bothe drive pretty well and both truck are hooked up. Personally i like the original mfe xxx-t but the t-4 is also a very nice truck to drive

so is this the XXX-T your talking about? http://teamlosi.com/kits/MF2_index.htm

Out accelerates? You must be crazy. Any truck weather it is AE or Losi is good. I run a T4 and am very fast usally an A- main contender every week just ask Dustin,David,and jim runnit. Set up is the key,driving skills make you win not the truck. Not just a FAST motor!!!!!!, DAVID W. :jest:


thanks for quoting me
:thumbsup: :jest:

so is this the XXX-T your talking about? http://teamlosi.com/kits/MF2_index.htm

Yep! :thumbsup:

YOU can win with on any day with either one.The Losi is easier to drive(smoother transitions,better in the bumps)but it cannot be driven as
agressivly as a T4.The T4 is a little more quick to react to inputs which sometimes makes it harder to drive when comparing to the Losi.What you buy
is based on preference.I used to drive Losi but now I drive Associated.It just fits my style of driving better and I like the way it responds to chassis changes. Either one is a good platform to work with so buy what YOU want,not what
people are telling you to.

YOU can win with on any day with either one.The Losi is easier to drive(smoother transitions,better in the bumps)but it cannot be driven as
agressivly as a T4.The T4 is a little more quick to react to inputs which sometimes makes it harder to drive when comparing to the Losi.What you buy
is based on preference.I used to drive Losi but now I drive Associated.It just fits my style of driving better and I like the way it responds to chassis changes. Either one is a good platform to work with so buy what YOU want,not what
people are telling you to.

thank you that was probably the most inspirational and helpful post yet. and i think ill still stick with the t4.

Maybe my opinion will help you out. I raced Losi trucks since the LXT was the hot truck years ago. Up until nine months ago I raced a Losi XXX-T. It was a great truck but for some reason there were a couple guys at my track who had T-4s who always turned faster laps even though I felt our driving ability was very equal. So that prompted me to buy a T-4. Well first run out of the box, with very few modifications, I set a personal best by about 6 seconds in stock truck. The difference in overall handling was unbelievable. It jumped better, turned better, and handled bumps better. I was always competitive in the A-main with the Losi truck, but the T-4 has me shooting for the track record just about every race day in stock truck. Instead of me looking for set-up help, people are coming to look at my truck and ask me about my set-up. I have never driven the new MF2 Losi truck, but I still feel that the T-4 may be the better truck.

so is this the XXX-T your talking about? http://teamlosi.com/kits/MF2_index.htm

that is the one i am talking about

i currently own a t-4 ad i used to own a xxx-t, both are good trucks they just drive a little different. the only real way to determine which one you like better is by driving them.

Maybe my opinion will help you out. I raced Losi trucks since the LXT was the hot truck years ago. Up until nine months ago I raced a Losi XXX-T. It was a great truck but for some reason there were a couple guys at my track who had T-4s who always turned faster laps even though I felt our driving ability was very equal. So that prompted me to buy a T-4. Well first run out of the box, with very few modifications, I set a personal best by about 6 seconds in stock truck. The difference in overall handling was unbelievable. It jumped better, turned better, and handled bumps better. I was always competitive in the A-main with the Losi truck, but the T-4 has me shooting for the track record just about every race day in stock truck. Instead of me looking for set-up help, people are coming to look at my truck and ask me about my set-up. I have never driven the new MF2 Losi truck, but I still feel that the T-4 may be the better truck.


see now that is the best put opinion on this thread and very well thought out i agree with u 100 percent :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I found myself in the same situation as Motorcitygearhead.

I felt I had maybe tapped out the T3. So after test driving a XXX-T MF, I tried it & returned to the T3, When the T4 arrived, I gravitated to that & it responds the same as the T3 only more stable through the bumps. Haven't tried a MF2, but don't think I need to.

Haven't had any arm problems. A friend has broken a few servo saver arms though.

I agree with the Hobby shop parts support aspect of peoples responses. Make sure they can get parts easily for you. Nothing's more frustrating.

Actually i am not crazy And i have the prove to back it up .. October of rc car action took 6 drivers and gave them a FT T4 and a Mf2 and they all said the same thing i did .. (quote the mf2 out accelerates the t4)and faster in the turns ..The t4 has a 2.61 tranny and the mf2 has a 2.56 hmmm Thats a lower drive transmission.
It is all in setup Id like to see a losi out accelerate My missle,you can get the same final ratio by changing your spur and pinion gears.

yea i agree with jason we have a losi race at our track and if we lined up next to each other i would smoke he in acceleration

It is all in setup Id like to see a losi out accelerate My missle,you can get the same final ratio by changing your spur and pinion gears.


You can change stuff to get the final drive the same,(externally) but you have to factor in how the motor has to work to make them run the same. Or just say you have the same exact final drive, the truck with the lower tranny ratio should be faster. On paper anyway.

yea on paper that is nothing like being on a real track :jest: :wave: :thumbsup:

on a real track it all depends on ur motor, tires, esc, set up, and all in all driver and his/her reaction time

You can change stuff to get the final drive the same,(externally) but you have to factor in how the motor has to work to make them run the same. Or just say you have the same exact final drive, the truck with the lower tranny ratio should be faster. On paper anyway.
A motor that takes lets say 17.6 revolutions to turn the rear tires 1 turn will take the same when geared correctly. Other wise you would have one type of motor that ran better in a T4(monster HP) and a (green 3) in a Losi. Make sense? :thumbsup:

ive raced both. both are great trucks... but for some reason i've stuck with Associated stuff. Is it the way I drive? probably... is it because of what people tell me? no...

Maybe it started because my local hobbyshop had more Associated parts, and I ended up with tons of spare parts...uck

I started with Losi, back when they had a race track in Pomona (Ranch Pit).. had tons of support and help. Then ranch went away.. I tried the B3/T3.. and it was awesome..

I dunno.. honestly both trucks can win, and both trucks are sturdy.. any car can break if you smack it hard enough...

Walk to your local hobbyshop.. see what the guys there know the most, go to your local track.. see what the people drive.. ask to check out the truck.. and get a feel... read the boards.. and make your desicion.. you cant go wrong either way.. =)

my desicion.. is for the T4. I just picked up a B4 and I like it.. =)

;)

yea i've been meaning to ask somebody how is the b4 i want to get one

I like it alot to say the least. It gets better every time it touches the ground. Although I run only Losi wheels and tires, that is something that stuck from years of running Losi's. I've had problems with the Proline wheels running true. Or to much slack with the front wheel bearings.


TOYMINATOR,
When you take the same external ratio's, the one with the higher ratio internally(lower#) will travel farther. I see where your going though, and your right to.