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Matthew Green 10-03-2004, 02:45 PM Hey all...I've watched the first two episodes of the Original Star Trek on DVD that I have ever seen. Was there anything that ever happened to the boy from episode Charlie X? Did he ever show up in other Star Trek shows to wreak revenge as an adult?
John P 10-03-2004, 03:52 PM Nope.
TV in the sixties was notabley one-shot. It's very rare that a guest antagonist from an episode turns up later. The only time it happened in TOS was Roger C. Carmel as Harry Mudd in "Mudd's Women," and the later "I, Mudd." Kahn would be the second time, but that was movie so I don't count it.
Trek Ace 10-03-2004, 04:33 PM 'cept for The Wild, Wild West.
modelnut 10-03-2004, 04:34 PM I think he shows up as a young "Q" in Peter David's book Q-Squared.
OOPS! :freak: Just checked my facts! That young Q turned out to be the Squire of Gothos.
Never mind. :tongue:
Still a fun read! Especially the bit with the Grand Nagus! :jest:
-Leelan
John P 10-03-2004, 04:43 PM 'cept for The Wild, Wild West.
There were a few, true. Loveless in WWW; Wo Fat on 5-0. But Trek only had Harry.
rw2516 10-03-2004, 06:07 PM Some of the alien leaders in The Invaders showed up more than once.
Matthew Green 10-04-2004, 12:07 AM But he was like ULTRA powerful...He never returned to wreak havoc on the Next Generation cast?
Zombie_61 10-04-2004, 12:26 AM Sure, now someone comes up with that idea.
BEBruns 10-04-2004, 12:30 AM The Klingon Captain in THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES was originally supposed to be a recurring character, but when the next Klingon story came up, he wasn't available.
Something also to consider with recurring characters. If a writer creates a character that is used in a subsequent episode, the original writer gets paid every time the character is used. That is why the producers of ENTERPRISE abandoned the idea of using the character of T'Pau from the TOS episode AMOK TIME. I also suspect that it is the reason that Cadet Locarno from the TNG episode THE FIRST DUTY ended up on VOYAGER with the alias of Tom Paris.
Hey all...I've watched the first two episodes of the Original Star Trek on DVD that I have ever seen. Was there anything that ever happened to the boy from episode Charlie X? Did he ever show up in other Star Trek shows to wreak revenge as an adult?
"First two episodes" is a relative term with the DVD set. As I understand it, they're in airdate order. The right way to watch them and see how the series grew is Production Order (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episodes/index.html?category=production&order=asc&season=all).
chiangkaishecky 10-04-2004, 10:29 AM "First two episodes" is a relative term with the DVD set. As I understand it, they're in airdate order. The right way to watch them and see how the series grew is Production Order.
It's funny ... it has always played in production order in these parts of the syndicated woods but for the last few years it is now played by original airdate order ... aggravating but still cheaper than DVD.
Old_McDonald 10-04-2004, 01:32 PM Nope.
TV in the sixties was notabley one-shot. It's very rare that a guest antagonist from an episode turns up later. The only time it happened in TOS was Roger C. Carmel as Harry Mudd in "Mudd's Women," and the later "I, Mudd." Kahn would be the second time, but that was movie so I don't count it.
mmmm....well...if you look at shows like Batman, we had recurring antagonist a lot. .....not that I minded seeing Catwoman a lot.:thumbsup:
John P 10-04-2004, 03:00 PM Okay, okay, I was being grossly general. I'm just recalling that where today you have serialization and recurring characters, in the 60s you generally had standalone episodes and a new guest star every week.
Night-Owl 10-09-2004, 02:29 PM Speaking of Harry Mudd, I'd heard somewhere that he was supposed to appear in The Trouble With Triblbles, but Roger Carmel was unvailable so they created Cyrano Jones. Is this right, if not anyone know the full story?
Old_McDonald 10-09-2004, 04:27 PM Okay, okay, I was being grossly general. I'm just recalling that where today you have serialization and recurring characters, in the 60s you generally had standalone episodes and a new guest star every week.
I was just in a nitpicking mood. You're right, most episodic television didn't have repeating guest stars unless it was someone who couldn't get a job anwhere else. Take the guy who played King Tut on Batman and the magician on the Wild Wild West. I never saw him in anything else. I believe that a lot of today's television has repeating characters in order to support a general thread or storyline like in Stargate SG-1. I'm over-generalizing here as well.
Star Trek TNG had repeating Q, Lore, etc. DS9 had Gul Dukat, etc.
BEBruns 10-09-2004, 05:07 PM I was just in a nitpicking mood. You're right, most episodic television didn't have repeating guest stars unless it was someone who couldn't get a job anwhere else. Take the guy who played King Tut on Batman and the magician on the Wild Wild West. I never saw him in anything else.
You mean Victor Buono? You just haven't seen enough movies/TV shows:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0120658/
Speaking of Harry Mudd, I'd heard somewhere that he was supposed to appear in The Trouble With Triblbles, but Roger Carmel was unvailable so they created Cyrano Jones. Is this right, if not anyone know the full story?
The creation of THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES was pretty well documented in a book by David Gerrold and he never mentioned it. He did mention he had a hand in the second Mudd episode (he recommended they get to the planet quicker) but if I remember correctly, that episode was produced immediately before TRIBBLES, so it if very unlikely they would have brought him back that quickly.
Pygar 10-09-2004, 09:43 PM IIRC he was asked to make him *less* like Harry Mudd...
The Charlie X guy was on Columbo and played "Ensign Pulver". You may be able to get more from imdb.com on him.
I wanna know whatever became of the guy that played Kevin Thomas Reilly!
Trek Ace 10-10-2004, 12:11 AM I was just in a nitpicking mood. You're right, most episodic television didn't have repeating guest stars unless it was someone who couldn't get a job anwhere else. Take the guy who played King Tut on Batman and the magician on the Wild Wild West. I never saw him in anything else. I believe that a lot of today's television has repeating characters in order to support a general thread or storyline like in Stargate SG-1. I'm over-generalizing here as well.
Star Trek TNG had repeating Q, Lore, etc. DS9 had Gul Dukat, etc. ...and Get Smart. Bernie Kopel.
How about re-occuring actors playing DIFFERENT characters on a single TV show??
Patrick McGoohan showed up on Columbo about 3 times!!
rw2516 10-10-2004, 08:59 AM You see this alot on Combat! I guess there's just so many German speaking actors in Hollywood. Hans Gundengast(sp?) aka Eric Braedon (I believe) who was the German lieutenant on the Rat Patrol is in several Combats. Before he was Festus Ken Curtis was on Gunsmoke what seems like every other week playing different characters.
How about guest appearances by horror stars. Besides being EggHead on Batman, Vincent Price is in the F-Troop episode"V is for Vampire", played a evil puppetmaster on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, was on Brady Bunch, two Night Galleries, a Man From U.N.C.L.E., and I'm sure there's more.
Karloff was in a I Spy episode, Wild Wild West(Night of the Golden Cobra), played an entire Girl From U.N.C.L.E in drag(The Mother Muffin Affair) and more I'm sure.
There's the Route 66 episode "Lizard Leg and Owlet's Wing" with Karloff, Chaney and Lorre playing themselves and Karloff in Frankenstein make-up and Chaney in wolfman make-up.
Barbara Steele appeared in an I Spy as an enemy assassin.
British TV shows are loaded with appearances of actors from 60s Bond Films.
The first Cybernauts episode of The Avengers had Michael Gough as the mad doctor. The "Return of the Cybernauts" starred Peter Cushing as the mad scientist who I believe was Gough's brother.
Christopher Lee appeared in an Avengers. His character was called DR. FRANK N. STONE!
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