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Zorro 09-28-2004, 06:33 PM Saw the trailer for the remake of "Flight of The Phoenix" last night. Dennis Quaid in the Jimmy Stewart role - and of course - CGI out the yin yang for flying/crashing/storm effects. I'm not a stick in the mud and am not philisophically opposed to remakes if the producers can bring something genuinely fresh and new to the treatment - but this movie don't look like it qualifies. I predict a very fast crash and burn at the box office and a special place in "the land of remakes that nobody remembers".
AZbuilder 09-29-2004, 09:49 AM I too saw this trailer when I saw Sky Captain which BTW was awesome flick. The only difference I saw was the addition of a woman to the cast which was not in the Jimmy Stewart version which was all Male cast members. The plane I believe is the same model cargo aircraft used in the original version. the crash scene the new version, the plane is in worse condition than in the original after the crash.
AZbuilder
John Davis
chiangkaishecky 09-29-2004, 10:02 AM I'd like MORE remakes.
At the rate Hollywood is cannibalizing itself, expect a Timecop remake and an A&E Biography on Dakota Fanning very shortly.
PerfesserCoffee 09-29-2004, 10:40 AM I agree. No good can come of this.
If they wanted to remake it, they should have added an original twist like making it a spacecraft that has crashed and must be rebuilt. :freak:
rw2516 09-29-2004, 10:46 AM That spacecraft twist to the story is great. That is a movie I'd like to see.
heiki 09-29-2004, 03:19 PM I agree. No good can come of this.
If they wanted to remake it, they should have added an original twist like making it a spacecraft that has crashed and must be rebuilt. :freak:
Wouldn't that be "Lost in Space"?
PerfesserCoffee 09-29-2004, 03:39 PM Wouldn't that be "Lost in Space"?
No, that was a remake of Swiss Family Robinson! :tongue:
John P 09-29-2004, 04:01 PM Just saw the trailer. Sure LOOKS exciting, but so did Phantom Menace from the trailer :).
Sure hope they built a sturdier Phoenix than the one that killed Paul Mantz.
PerfesserCoffee 09-29-2004, 04:21 PM Sure LOOKS exciting, but so did Phantom Menace from the trailer :).
You're saying that Phantom Menace wasn't exciting? :confused:
the plain and simple of it is that a movie as good as Flight of the Phoenix doesn't need to be remade .
hb
John P 09-29-2004, 09:21 PM You're saying that Phantom Menace wasn't exciting? :confused:
Which part was exciting? Jar-Jar accidentally blowing up all those droids in a 3 stooges routine, or "Annie" accidentally doing exactly the right thing (on autopilt!) to blow up a spaceship, or the introduction of Treknobabble (Midichlorians) to the series?
The lightsaber fight was cool, though.
Any time Hayden what's his name opened his mouth I fell fast asleep. I told my kid the punch line to "Phoenix", The dude designs toys!
The Batman 09-29-2004, 09:59 PM I too saw this trailer when I saw Sky Captain which BTW was awesome flick.
I also saw the trailer for Flight of the Phoenix when I went to see Sky Captain ( SKy Captain is indeed awesome! )
The thing that kept bugging me when I saw that they had re-made this film was the realization that so few people of the current generation are not going to know that it's a re-make. I wish these kids could see the Jimmy Stewart film...
- GJS
chiangkaishecky 09-29-2004, 10:16 PM The lightsaber fight was cool, though.
Two against one ... dem Jedees shure are honorable!
Trek Ace 09-29-2004, 10:40 PM Why don't they just remake Gone With The Wind and The Wizard of Oz while they're at it? :rolleyes:
dreamer 09-29-2004, 10:51 PM Why don't they just remake Gone With The Wind and The Wizard of Oz while they're at it? :rolleyes:
Wizard of Oz? The 1939 classic? That was a remake. :p
PerfesserCoffee 09-30-2004, 06:05 AM Which part was exciting? Jar-Jar accidentally blowing up all those droids in a 3 stooges routine, or "Annie" accidentally doing exactly the right thing (on autopilt!) to blow up a spaceship, or the introduction of Treknobabble (Midichlorians) to the series?
Well, you see, you had to watch it as if you were 7 years old to enjoy it. :freak:
That way, when you grow up, you'll think the prequels are far superior to the original trilogy. :(
PerfesserCoffee 09-30-2004, 06:06 AM Wizard of Oz? The 1939 classic? That was a remake. :p
Hopefully, the last remake.
I'd rather they remake Beau Geste again.
razorwyre1 09-30-2004, 06:26 AM the problem is that the execs at the studios are honestly not the most creative people. theyre faking it and they know it. so theyre terrified of possibly producing an original film that might bomb, which could end their jobs. (one of the most horrible things about the film industry is knowing that your entire career could evaporate overnight. it hangs over the heads of everybody out there) remakes are therefore nice and safe..... "it worked once, so..."
John P 09-30-2004, 07:41 AM Hopefully, the last remake.
You're forgetting "The Wiz," and "Return to Oz."
PerfesserCoffee 09-30-2004, 08:28 AM You're forgetting "The Wiz," and "Return to Oz."
The Wiz was more of an alternate reality interpretation vs. remake, I'd say. Technically, yeah, it may be called a remake, but its focus wasn't so much the same as the '39 version.
Return to Oz was more of a sequel. I think it was based on one of the many sequels that Frank Oz wrote back in the early 1900s. BTW: I'd love to see some of the original silent screen versions made by the creator, himself.
lonfan 09-30-2004, 08:54 AM I had a Press Kit for a Mid 80's Disney Film that was called "The Last Flight Of Noah's Ark" The Press Kit and Poster had some Fantastic Artwork of an old Bomber Plane made into some kind of a Raft. I never saw the actual Film, So is this a Remake of "Flight of The Phoenix" that you guys are talking about? just wondering
JOHN/LONFAN
sbaxter 09-30-2004, 09:44 AM The Wiz was more of an alternate reality interpretation vs. remake, I'd say.
It was a reimagining! ;)
Technically, yeah, it may be called a remake, but its focus wasn't so much the same as the '39 version.
Three things stand out about the movie to me. First, Diana Ross was way too old to play Dorothy -- and yes, I know that Judy Garland was older than the character in the book, but she didn't seem too old for the part as written in the film. Ross does. Second, it follows the story of the book much more closely than the earlier film. Third, the messages of the two films -- the first film's "If I ever go looking for my heart's desire again, I won't look any further than my own back yard" and second one's "There's a whole big world out there, but I won't see it if I never go any farther than 149th Street"* -- seem completely at odds with each other.
Qapla'
SSB
*I can't remember the verbatim quote nor the cited street, so I just pulled a number out of the air and got as close as I could remember on the rest. You get the idea, though.
John P 09-30-2004, 11:33 AM Return to Oz was more of a sequel. I think it was based on one of the many sequels that Frank Oz wrote back in the early 1900s.
Was that before he developed Miss Piggy for Henson? :freak: "lol"
PerfesserCoffee 09-30-2004, 11:48 AM I thought you'd like that one! ;) :jest:
AZbuilder 09-30-2004, 03:10 PM Lonfan said:
" I had a Press Kit for a Mid 80's Disney Film that was called "The Last Flight Of Noah's Ark" " Well The "Disney Last Flight Of The Noah's Ark" used a B-29 Superfortress where as the "Phoenix" used a C-114 Flying Boxcar or something similar I could be wrong? The B-29 was remade into a raft of sorts and the Phoenix was remade into a single engine monoplane from a twin boom aircraft that actually flew.
AZbuilder
John Davis
PerfesserCoffee 09-30-2004, 03:15 PM . . . the Phoenix was remade into a single engine monoplane from a twin boom aircraft that actually flew.
Oh, GREAT! Go and ruin the remake for me, why don't you????
:devil:
John P 09-30-2004, 03:53 PM The B-29 was remade into a raft of sorts and the Phoenix was remade into a single engine monoplane from a twin boom aircraft that actually flew.
Ask Paul Mantz how well it flew.
Oh wait, you can't...
Pygar 09-30-2004, 10:20 PM It flew well. Landed poorly, though...
(if that little clump of ground hadn't dug the skid in, I'll bet it would be in a museum today, though.)
lonfan 10-01-2004, 12:26 AM Lonfan said:
" I had a Press Kit for a Mid 80's Disney Film that was called "The Last Flight Of Noah's Ark" " Well The "Disney Last Flight Of The Noah's Ark" used a B-29 Superfortress where as the "Phoenix" used a C-114 Flying Boxcar or something similar I could be wrong? The B-29 was remade into a raft of sorts and the Phoenix was remade into a single engine monoplane from a twin boom aircraft that actually flew.
AZbuilder
John Davis
SO JOHN, NOT to be a Smart A$$ but IS this Disney Film a remake of the Earlier "Phoenix" Movie?
Thanks for all the info guys!
JOHN/LONFAN
Jay Chladek 10-01-2004, 03:57 AM The German dude didn't design TOYS! He designed MODEL AIRPLANES (i.e. flying planes). A model airplane flies, toy planes don't (and even plastic model ones fly if you give them enough speed and a reason to launch them).
sbaxter 10-01-2004, 06:04 AM Was that before he developed Miss Piggy for Henson? :freak: "lol"
Wars not make one great. Mouth not make one smart, either! ;)
Or, put another way -- "Hiiiii-yah!"
Don't mess with The Pig.
Qapla'
SSB
tripdeer 01-26-2005, 02:29 AM Well, I saw "Flight of the Phoenix" and rather enjoyed it. However, I'll still have to go out and get the original. I'm a young'un, so I haven't seen it yet. What was the plane that was featured in the film? I'd like to do a model of it, maybe even a "before and after" display... :)
Dan
Edit: Ah, found it. Would that have been a C-119 Flying Boxcar? Neat looking craft.
big-dog 01-27-2005, 05:33 AM Hollywood and creativity seem to have become mutually exclusive. Though I guess we could look at all the highly superior remakes we have been blessed with in the last few years: Planet of the Apes, Rollerball, The Time Machine. Hear they're working on War of the Worlds and Vanishing Point.
John P 01-27-2005, 09:13 AM Wise guy :).
John O 01-27-2005, 10:12 AM Vanishing Point? Why?!?! Why, why, why!?!? I suppose instead of a Dodge Challenger, Kowalski will drive some hopped up The Fast and the Furious lookin' rice-burner!!! The Fast and the Furious meetsVanishing Point ...andthat's probably word-for-word how the project was sold to the suits....
John O.
Dave Hussey 01-27-2005, 10:49 AM Lonfan - YES!!
The current Flight of the Phoenix movie is a remake of the earlier 1960's era movie that starred Jimmy Stewart and Ernest Borgnine. In that movie, just as in the new one, the cargo plane crashes in the desert. The survivors build a new plane out of the wreckage of the old one and attempt to save themselves by flying it to civilization.
Huzz
PerfesserCoffee 01-27-2005, 11:20 AM I can't wait to see the hopped-up Herbie in the next movie! It could be an excuse for yet ANOTHER Herbie-mobile!
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