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Tim Stamper
09-20-2004, 03:27 PM
Any questions or comments, post here. I will have some updates soon. The track is coming along nicely and the pit area is expanding to be able to hold 70-80 folks very soon.

Thanks,

Tim Stamper

Rich Chang
09-20-2004, 04:28 PM
More pictures. :) The place sounds awesome!

jimmie
09-20-2004, 05:13 PM
I wish that place was closer to Grand Rapids. It looks sweet. A 2 hour drive oneway :eek:

Tim Stamper
09-21-2004, 08:32 AM
More pictures. :) The place sounds awesome!
I'm gonna stop by there tonight. I'll snap some pictures and talk to the owner about posting the pictures on the web site from the grand opening.

Tim

DynoMoHum
09-21-2004, 12:22 PM
My only complaint was that they didn't have enough pit space... but if they are correcting that, then I'd have to wait and see how warm it will be in the winter before I'd make any more complaints... :)

I see they had several rolls of what appeared to be Ozite ready to use...

rayhuang
09-21-2004, 12:35 PM
Wow-best of both words-Touring cars on asphalt with foam tires is the best-I thnk. But if they have carpet to warm-everyone up for Champs and Snowbirds-thats awesome!!

Why does it have such great grip?

reilly
09-21-2004, 01:40 PM
No the carpet is not staying, But the traction you get is like being on carpet
and the surface doesn't wear out. The asphalt is a special blend like they use out in cal. for indoor asphalt tracks. Grip is insane. To get foams to last we are using nitro foam and the wear is very low approx. .5mm on the dia for two 5-6 min runs with 19turn in the car. More pit space is also on the way.
oh 37 shore on the rear and 37-40 up front depending on your car.
Later
James

rayhuang
09-21-2004, 01:47 PM
Well-if grip stays up and a groove forms-tire wear will go down even more in time I bet. I thnk all new poured surfaces have very sharp corners on the substrate (sp?) which dulls down s more cars run. 0.5mm is not bad for two runs at all.

Ray

Mike@SteelCity
09-21-2004, 11:53 PM
Holly Smokes... this RC Racing thing is really taking off! Good luck on the track!

DynoMoHum
09-22-2004, 01:48 PM
The carpet is not staying? Why did they get it they didn't plan on using it?

A.Hartzell
09-22-2004, 10:38 PM
The carpet was for Larry's.

I can't wait to get to RC Screwz tomorrow to run. :roll:

Tim Stamper
09-24-2004, 07:22 AM
Adam,


Thanks for stopping by yesterday.

I am having issues getting pictures posted of the place. It's like the track is area 51.

We are in the process of replacing the road dome board system with some traditional 2x4's and plastic all the way around and in flappers.

The traction is starting to settle down now. I still did see a car traction roll yesterday though.

Tim

A.Hartzell
09-24-2004, 08:17 AM
The track was great yesterday. I had traction issues with the 1/12 but the TC was dialed. The asphalt was more of a challange to drive on but it was a LOT more fun. :) I can't wait until Tuseday when I can get out there and run again. I'll feel better about pushing the car a little harder when the boards are put down.


Its well worth the 30 min. drive to get there!! :wave:

kenb
09-25-2004, 10:57 AM
Cant wait for this belly to heal so I can get back myself! wont be able to carry my full kit, but I can bring out the pro 4 and play, was getting it realy dialed too!, Some reduction in overall traction would be ok! I really like asphault best and to be able to run it in the winter is realy great!

Ken

A.Hartzell
09-26-2004, 10:56 PM
Tim--Call me on Monday when you get a chance.

Tim Stamper
09-27-2004, 08:30 AM
Will Do.

A.Hartzell
09-27-2004, 10:54 PM
Anyone try rubber tire TC yet? I might expriment on Thursday if I can find some.

Tim Stamper
09-28-2004, 09:45 AM
Anything in the 32-36 range works well.

Take off cs-32's worked okay and sorex 36's work after a couple of laps.

Tim

A.Hartzell
09-28-2004, 11:40 AM
Tim--If you still have some of thoes donated Cs-27s can you bring a few sets tonight. I might duck out of class early and run a few laps with the new TC set up tonight if all the boards are down.

A.Hartzell
09-28-2004, 10:29 PM
The track looked great today. All of the boards and flappers are in. No more Road Ramp (sorry Dome) system. Saw a few guys running rubber tires. I know that I will be testing some on Thursday. Everyone needs to get over there and check the place out. I forgot the date but racing will start real soon.

A.Hartzell
10-01-2004, 12:19 AM
October 16 will be the first race.

Rubber tires work real good. I was almost as fast as the foam guys today. Just a little more testing and I should be just as fast if not faster. :)

Tim Stamper
10-01-2004, 01:22 PM
Driving the track with ruber tires is more of a challenge. It will make you a better driver overall, so moving on to foams later on will be easier. Foam tires are really responsive on this surface. Some of the newer drivers are having problems with too much traction. There's always 1/12th scale. It just works. A hard purple up front and pink in the back and all is well.

Tim

DerekManchester
10-02-2004, 10:30 AM
Rubber is for Asphalt!!!!!.....oops....was I typing out loud again?

Rich Chang
10-02-2004, 11:43 AM
If anyone is looking for rubber tires, I have a ton I'd be willing to sell cheap. I have new and used of all different brands, plus rims,

A.Hartzell
10-02-2004, 04:25 PM
Rich email me with what you've got.

kenb
10-02-2004, 07:06 PM
Rubber is for Asphalt!!!!!.....oops....was I typing out loud again?
Who's fault?

Today the 32's seemed a bit loose and the 27's better
Derek I'm struggeling with my recently aquired pro4 and rubber here, ya gointo try out the track? (and get a setup)
Ken

Dabear95
10-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Can someone tell me a web site or address for this track?

Rich Chang
10-02-2004, 09:17 PM
Adam, you've got mail. Make me an offer. I am open to trades, too.

-Rich

Rich email me with what you've got.

Rich Chang
10-02-2004, 09:18 PM
http://www.rcscrewz.com

To whoever is running the track -- it looks great! I hope to make it out there to race this season. It probably won't be until December, however. :(

-Rich

Can someone tell me a web site or address for this track?

A.Hartzell
10-02-2004, 10:03 PM
Rich--Is there anything you need or are looking for.

DerekManchester
10-03-2004, 12:58 AM
Who's fault?

Today the 32's seemed a bit loose and the 27's better
Derek I'm struggeling with my recently aquired pro4 and rubber here, ya gointo try out the track? (and get a setup)
KenRun the stock setup. Change the inner camber link spacers to 2mm in front and 1 mm in the rear. 32's in the front and 27's in the rear. With no sun on the track run tire warmers and hold on. It will surprize you.

Not sure I'll make it there before the Indoor Champs due to the lack of grey fuzzy stuff on the track.

A.Hartzell
10-03-2004, 04:50 PM
I would try to make the car work with 32s all the way around. 27s tend to melt in the rear after 4 or 5 runs with a 19t. Tire warmers will be a must for the colder weather.

DerekManchester
10-03-2004, 08:05 PM
It will swap ends with 32's all the way around. I've tryed it with that setup. Besides I was burning 32's off in the front with the setup I told him to run. I even went as far as running (Whatever the next tire down from the 27's) 22's in the rear. I never wore the rears out, still had the rib down the center. I'll have to stop by and check out the grip level though.


D-Rock
I would try to make the car work with 32s all the way around. 27s tend to melt in the rear after 4 or 5 runs with a 19t. Tire warmers will be a must for the colder weather.

kenb
10-03-2004, 09:21 PM
Derek
Swaping ends is the problem. Car seems hooked, but a bit pushy,then I hit the trigger coming out of a turn and its gone! donut time. 27's were much better than 32's but still to unreliable to run with trafic. shortening the rear upper link helped a bit.
Its got to do with the track, The same setup was ok at the nite race, same pushy but no sudden loss(?) of rear traction... ride height and droop and tweak ok car is not broken

A.Hartzell
10-03-2004, 09:28 PM
ken-Try to raise your rear roll center a little by putting .5mm shims under the arm mounts. I had the same problem as you, but this really helped a lot. I also raised my front roll center as well.

kenb
10-03-2004, 09:39 PM
Yup, tried that in the back. The car was previously owned, so I downloaded the book and I am going to return it to box stock tomorrow. It looks pretty stock but going through the steps and checking it out might find something, then start over from a known starting point .. the book shows a 1/2 mm in thr rear,front arm suport, so its up in front, did you add another 1/2 , or just level it.... front?

kenb
10-03-2004, 09:53 PM
Sorry, really garbled wasn't that... did you maintain the antisquat? or level the rear pivots when you raised them?

Rich Chang
10-03-2004, 10:00 PM
What ya got? :) Email me at rpchang@pobox.com.

-Rich

Rich--Is there anything you need or are looking for.

A.Hartzell
10-07-2004, 06:18 PM
So who is going to the first race next Saturday. I should be there running 19t TC with rubber tires. Can't wait. :thumbsup:

kenb
10-07-2004, 07:49 PM
Thanks Andy and Derek!
I got the pro4 working today, Box... then Derek's..... then shorten the upper rear arm and add 1/2 mm anti squat. The 32's on the front and 27's on the back does'nt work as the 27's heat up and fade out after a couple of laps.
the 32's look good but i can run hpi 33r's or T27's . It seems the track has so much grip any matched set of 4 is fine. Put the xxxs out with the full carpet setup only rubber tires and it worked great too
I could run 19 turn rubber or stock rubber (I have no extra 19's and no budget!)
Ken

rcsilly
10-07-2004, 08:01 PM
So who is going to the first race next Saturday. I should be there running 19t TC with rubber tires. Can't wait. :thumbsup:

If its open tire 19t , nitro foam is the ONLY way to go .

Bob

kenb
10-08-2004, 07:12 AM
The cool thing about this track is that I dont have to by a bunch of tires, what I have left from summer works, That makes the racing budget go way further!
Ken

Geno069
10-08-2004, 11:22 PM
What is the address or location of the RCScrewz Indoor Asphalt Track. Or the website address

A.Hartzell
10-08-2004, 11:26 PM
rcscrewz.com

RcDinge
10-10-2004, 07:35 AM
Does the pricing at the store reflect pricing on line? :roll: Looks like a nice track. do you run oval?

bigjohnson
10-13-2004, 02:04 PM
Derek and Ken

When you say "stock" or "box" do you mean as the instructions tell or the sample set up sheet in the back??
I was there yesterday and was having the same problems as Ken, could baby it around the track but it would spinout if you got on it too soon after the trurn.
Ya gonna be there Sat Ken???

Greg Anthony
10-13-2004, 04:28 PM
What are the track hours duing the week, and during the weekends?

RCGURU911
10-13-2004, 05:08 PM
mon-sat 12-8 and sun 1-6 or 8 not sure

kenb
10-13-2004, 06:02 PM
Box stock as per the building instructions. then derek's change, then replace the 1/2 mm shim on the foreward end of the rear pivot blocks with a 1mm (adds a bit of antisquat) , then move the upper link pivot ball (inner end) to the outer hole , making the rear upper links mid length. then I put 40 wt oil in the rear shocks . It worked best with the same tire around. I plan on being there saturday, I could use a bit of help, Doc says I cant marshal yet (sugery 2 weeks ago)
Ken

kenb
10-13-2004, 06:06 PM
Hey Russ
Thinking about a bit of practice on friday, also what time ya going to get there on sat?
Ken