OK the schedule is out.....

Oct. 23rd (HobbyTown Track)
Oct. 30th (Classic Track)
Nov. 6th (HobbyTown Track)
Nov. 13th (Classic Track)
Dec. 11th (HobbyTown Track)
Dec. 19th (The Gate Track)
Jan. 8th (Classic Track)
Jan. 15th (HobbyTown Track)
Jan. 23rd (The Gate Track)
Feb. 6th (The Gate Track)
Feb. 12th (HobbyTown Track) **My B-Day**
Feb. 19th (Classic Track)
Mar. 12th (Classic Track)
Mar. 26th (HobbyTown Track) Trophy day --- may not be a points race!!

Time and track location comming soon....

Just talked to Bud....Look's like the HobbyTown race's may be moved to Friday nights....

Hey Mike how old are you going to be? I hope your not hinting that we all should let you win on your birthday.

I will be 30 something.....I not looking for you to let me win...I can do that on my own! I'm just looking for some gifts! I can use BRP tires, motors, bodys...ect.. ;)

My birthday is October 29th...having fun at Classic should be
a good gift on the day after my birthday.

A gift of a V2 would be fabulous...Bud had an assembled one
left. He said that would be the best one for me...
Whatever could he mean? :p

Gearing down from a 52T to a 48T at Bud's helped give me more acceleration and it was smoother, thanks for the tip Wazzer (previous speed secret you shared...).

Off to orientation on the new job...

See you guys in the funnies. :)

RAFster

Micro:

Thanks for the posting.

RAFster:

Congrats on the new job.

Just talked to Bud....Look's like the HobbyTown race's may be moved to Friday nights....Micro,
That could be better, better than conflict with Classic's weekly schedule.
From the sound of it, the new location will take me quite a bit longer than the drive to the fairgrounds. (That was an easy drive.)
Then again, I don't know the Cleveland area.

Nil,
Thanks for the congrats. I start some training tomorrow through next
week.

Gotta go study, later guys!

David

From the sound of it, the new location will take me quite a bit longer than the drive to the fairgrounds. If I have the place right, it'll be about six to ten minutes more for you. Three more on the freeway, the rest because it's a few more traffic lights.

Nil,
That sounds better than what I had imagined from the descriptions of how to get there.

Micro,
So, is the plan for Hobbytown to move back a day from the 23rd to the 22nd of October?

David

Not sure Bud will let us know....

Revised schedule all HT races move back one day so they are now on Friday nights do not know start time yet. The last points race will be Mar 12th. We will have a 13 race series with 4 through outs.

Where is the new location for the hobbytown races? Is there a date when steve will be racing before the end of Oct.

I have an email out to Steve...I will let you know as soon as I find out! ;)

Thanks Micro, tell him to post something about it. Also if he needs any help to let us know.


Chris

:cool:
The new site will at the old Bureau of Motor Vehicles building in the Snowville shopping center. It's on the NE corner of Snow Rd. and Chevrolet Blvd. Chevrolet Blvd. runs south from Brookpark Rd. and is about midway between the W130th and Tiedeman Rd. exits on I-480 Last time I talked to Steve he was looking at an end of October start up. I'll try and get down there this weekend to find out more.

Yes it is 1 1/2 miles from Don S house!! Now that is a home track advantage :thumbsup:

Anyone hear from Steve?

Anyone hear from Steve?
Talked to him Saturday. He still hasn't got the keys. We're hoping to get in and move the stuff this week.

BTW starting time will be 7:00pm.

WOW !! That will be a late night.

Yes it is 1 1/2 miles from Don S house!! Now that is a home track advantage :thumbsup: Does this mean if the weather is bad we can all stay at Dons house?

2slow00,

No, I doubt that, I think it means that Don S will be home first of everyone leaving after the races, unless he stops off for dinner/snack afterwards.
But, then again Don S has a big heart and might make room for You and Bud.

Firestone WinterFire snow tires do an excellent job in snow and in light snow and ice. Anything more than a light mix of ice in the snow and you need a studded snow tire to deal with the ice or a Blizzak does as good as many studded on ice without the skating on studs during emergency stops or cornering hard.

Gislaved Nord Frosts and some of the Hakkalapita snow tires are very
good as well but cost more money. For the money the Firestone are very
good and far cheaper than a $500 deductible for a body shop visit.

RAFster

WOW 7pm is VERY late.....Thursday night racing we would start at 6:30 and get out at 11:30.....

WOW 7pm is VERY late.....Thursday night racing we would start at 6:30 and get out at 11:30.....We seldom actually started at 6:30pm. We always seemed to be hung up with late entries. We were lucky to start by 6:45pm. A 7:00pm start should help alleviate that problem. Most people don't work on Saturday, and we felt the possibility of ending a little later would be acceptable. My brother Don and I ran Steve's summer program and it ran with less downtime than in the past. If Don is race director for the winter program, and I think Steve will let him, we should still make 11:30pm. The only time it might be late is before the Champs and we were late at the Fairgrounds too.

That sounds good since we have to hit someplace for FOOD !!!!!
Now we know all about snow tires, thanks Rafster :)
Bob>> Keep us informed if Steve needs some help moving in and setting up.

Hey Guys, about staying over. I don't think so. And if it gets a little deep in the pits I can pit at home. As far as food there's Mr. Chicken right there.
Don S

Bud,
That was barely scratching the tip of the iceberg on the snow tire topic. We travel during the winter months and typically do a 1200 mile loop around Christmas time. Having tires that make the travel safer is important.
Tire Rack does a (biased) snow tire review nearly every year and there are many more in Finland and other locations...
Generally the better winter tires are made in Finland and other Scandinavian countries.

:D

RAFster

Who is this new guy Don S ?????????????????????
Rafster do they do motorcycle snow tires?

As a matter of fact Bud, you can make your own studded motorcycle tires. I used to race dirt bikes on frozen lakes in the winter with #10 hex head sheet metal screws, screwed into the tires. You had to line the rear knobby with a street tire, so the screws would have double the rubber to screw into. Traction was incredible, you could power slide into the corners, and do wheelies on the way out.

BTW, trophy came UPS today, thanks.

Don't get run over by that OUCH !!

They even ice race using this method on some cars as well in some locations on frozen lakes. Ice racing with motorcycles and cars is wild to watch, but I prefer to do it
from video feed rather than in-person. You want to meet the real nuts in car racing go watch a Pro Rally in the forest. In my book the bog racers are in a close second...

Yeah, gotta be careful changing wheels with that treatment as well...

RAFster

Who is this new guy Don S ??Yeah, I don't know anyone with those initials who can use a computer worth a darn, do you? :)

Welcome aboard, Don S.

:thumbsup: Welcome to Hobby Talk Don S.:thumbsup:

Thought I could put my 2cents worth in.

RoberyW321 Is the new Hobytown track permanent? Whats the hot fast class in BRP now-still Mod with a speed 300? I still have my car thats been modded by Wayne!!!

Any plans for Oval night-I bet youd get a following. It w ould save me having to sell my Oval car!!

I thought the boys at the Gate were going to run a few ovals this winter.

Don D I'll give you the personal transponder at the next race. I decided to run only one class for a while . Don S I still think you could let some of the racers that travel sooo far stay at your place. And we can all come over after the races and you can cook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know if the Gate will or will not do any Oval races right now-I hope they do. Either way-not till January 2005.

[QUOTE=rayhuang]RoberyW321 Is the new Hobytown track permanent? /QUOTE]

Lets call it semi-permanent. Steve said he has the building untill March.

Thanks Bob-I dont always want to race on Sunday-so a place to run on Saturdays thats got some grip would be great!!

I always had fun when i raced out there.

Ray

Ray,


We're going to be running on Fridays.

Even better-thanks!! And track will stay down till spring right? Anyone out there going to run Tamiya F201 and any plans to run Oval nstead of roadcourse every so often?

Thanks.
Ray

Do you think Mini Coopers will be back at HobbyTown's races and what are
the rules for the class and typical equipment used?

Looking forward to some 18th scale BRP SC18 fun this winter on the rug...

Thanks!

RAFster
David

Ray,

The plan is to keep it down till March and change it once a month. We haven't talked about other classes but if 3 show up we will run them. As for oval, I haven't talked to Steve about it but it's in the back of my mind. From the drawing I saw the track space is L shaped and I don't know if we can get a decent oval in. May be am egg shaped Darlington type oval. I haven't seen the inside yet so I'll know better when I do. Need some place to run the 510.


RAFster,

I'm sure the Minis will run. As for rules, hmm, not many. The class has morphed into pretty much an open class as long as you use at least part of a Tamiya chassis and two wheel drive. Any mini chassis ( M01, M02, M03, M04). Foam tires. One guy took his M03 front turned it around mounted it to an aluminum plate with the front end from, I think, a 4Tec for rear wheel drive. I've ran one with the longer suspension arms from a TL01 which made it a short wheel base FF02 but I didn't see any advantage. My current cars are relativly stock looking except for a brace between the front shock mounting holes. a brace over the servo and what look like nerf wings mounted under the rear chassis section where it meets the front to mount my electronics on. Really lowers the CG I don't traction roll. Motors are also pretty open. I ran a 19t outdoors, it didn't run well with a 17t. Indoors I felt even the 19 was to much and ran a 21t Street Spec motor timed at 24°. Batteries any 6 cell you can fit in the chassis. Now after I've wrote all this, I'd like to revive the stock Mini class along TCS rules, Mabuchi motor 1500 batteries. Some place for the newbie to run. As you know a 19t Mini can be a beast to drive.

Does Steve need help setting up the track? Let us know! I left him an email, but he takes about a month to get back to ya!

Does Steve need help setting up the track? Let us know! I left him an email, but he takes about a month to get back to ya!
Stopped by the store, Steve wasn't there but did find out he just got the keys on Saturday. I'm waiting for him to call me.

Michael

Could you send me Steve's e-mail address?

Steve's email for Hobbytown USA Strongsville

thekey2fun@aol.com

Let us know when he will need help moving/setting up the track...thanks.
Micro_Racer

Bud -- has the first race changed --- it is scheduled for Oct 23rd?

Modifying the dates to reflect the Friday race nights at HobbyTown Track, last I had heard it was Friday nights at 7PM...

Oct. 22nd (HobbyTown Track)
Oct. 30th (Classic Track)
Nov. 5th (HobbyTown Track)
Nov. 13th (Classic Track)
Dec. 10th (HobbyTown Track)
Dec. 19th (The Gate Track)
Jan. 8th (Classic Track)
Jan. 14th (HobbyTown Track)
Jan. 23rd (The Gate Track)
Feb. 6th (The Gate Track)
Feb. 11th (HobbyTown Track) **MicroRacer's B-Day on 12th**
Feb. 19th (Classic Track)
Mar. 12th (Classic Track) - Points race finale
Mar. 25th (HobbyTown Track) Trophy day --- NOT a points race!!

HobbyTown Track start time is 7:00PM
5743 Chevrolet Blvd.
Parma, Oh 44130
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Classic Track start time is 6:00PM with sign-ins close at 5:45PM
1994 E Waterloo Rd
Akron, OH 44312
(330) 733-6400
Classic's web site (http://www.classichobbiesraceway.com/)
Classic's Location Map close up showing SR224 and I77 interchange. (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?ovi=1&zoom=7&mapdata=Qg5DZUlxQC8Udm4vm46bW9yse8csUoWonuQri4i1vU AU2BapyEqMYGxjL9fV%2fB6rLhhd64bmnz6AuB8KJuVZ18v360 U1%2fw8TK68fuvt4oT%2bnWfJUOQRmuHUzx4PJG5KYOiRmsIkT Nl%2bX2C7bRbj1usE1RMcgiSh7sMEPAdK9xxy0Em6GPwgle25G LoV%2fJpNhWkXRNuJQ8xZI%2frcFvVbB%2boHWp2Eudx5QF1Vk oyXdKwh%2bIMrHJVGUKfiGAUg3%2fo418kcW8Qgfz4A6Thf7uj dzpoc0tVhAN5%2bTooRJUJki8%2fvX9jgVKBlj%2f89hX52eCv HggNj4yN64pHF3flC8it8Mw6GPeiFgdxbiPyUVY3tlIbr7rWGt Q1vLcRgU2zdKXG%2f%2brIBdcKUk209%2bm5TdOezGJCvzgg3l 83faaGOhjVPt72aFdRnhFlRomgob8Nk%2bq3bu4wn8007i3cMQ 2g81JKp%2bNHocLj9h9YacxbjgbUIMF3I%3d)
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The Gate Track start time is ???AM with sign-ins close at ????AM
21411 South Gate Park Blvd.
Maple Heights, Ohio 44137
NORCAR's web site (http://www.clevelandcarpetracing.com/index.html)...The Gate's home RC car club...
The Gate's Location Map detail showing street names... (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?ovi=1&zoom=8&mapdata=Qg5DZUlxQC9AlmoXXOc0CW9KhYIzIarpN9AuC2DEBC EYOTmsvxqtBBSkHKqGSf9WbKL2Sej4AHWLVLN%2fPsN9iXKzOg wfsNcr4m2eeNE1Y%2fy8l0eaqj%2fu5BMcXILoO1zf3vDJxwWN BhyLVro9T1C3HQS9SVoh0m18IqE2O4WyGFy22vguhni1W6Twxo boqmA%2fpk7x1e%2fMI%2f57tFLlYJmA6LRjK330OdAjW1WPPH fF%2fAT9EsUBnzHqXNVewcHPJMCqvwzL%2b88FmFKtXpePUEyc PcCF7FoYT0mnTOYeDJC2pHtR54k5Vrh5GPkUuyI6%2bglDLTKt kpz%2b78b1UblOP7ktWkM4%2bNOJFiekZdFYpy04Y5dz6y%2bn 5vACpJB5HTWho3Hq0fxW54EqnTGoaVHieLNy79Mg%2b%2fCUCW eJOxLekMDb7iExBUJYgohlvlAQbVjQVKdSe5lN5Cv3SL%2b%2f jf1guemfbqQM%2byYgwEFR8KPOfrP1dTC1db7X3X246dKvb0ax %2fTDAlwVUh1m3pnI%3d)
The Gate's Location Map larger view with I271/I480/SR422. (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?ovi=1&zoom=7&mapdata=Qg5DZUlxQC9AlmoXXOc0CW9KhYIzIarpN9AuC2DEBC EYOTmsvxqtBBSkHKqGSf9WbKL2Sej4AHWLVLN%2fPsN9iXKzOg wfsNcr4m2eeNE1Y%2fy8l0eaqj%2fu5BMcXILoO1zf3vDJxwWN BhyLVro9T1C3HQS9SVoh0m18IqE2O4WyGFy22vguhni1W6Twxo boqmA%2fpk7x1e%2fMI%2f57tFLlYJmA6LRjK330OdAjW1WPPH fF%2fAT9EsUBnzHqXNVewcHPJMCqvwzL%2b88FmFKtXpePUEyc PcCF7FoYT0mnTOYeDJC2pHtR54k5Vrh5GPkUuyI6%2bglD09mY HV1bX31jEFgVFw4TjnVK2x14hZK9iaJyW6QutUjdRuVl%2b8BP gqPqYcOetDlc5TaNJtcctlwOtD%2bKThM5qK7q5FPQyyVerrtb V1%2fEu1CUYBQzuVXXQuePw4K9D5PLu6FZ6B1lIrWtP8pydK%2 bftdKDKFZXwM6ryABYgQoNwLJTYKIo2dAv0ej%2foVcLvaE7Ab UYQdB5bjA%3d)


Bud's website does not have the Winter Series flyer up yet, it probably will be up when the site is updated with the new V2 chassis info that Bud indicated was in the works.

Thanks for the corrections thus far...
BTW, the maps that are linked to above are interactive ones on MapQuest's website (you can zoom in and out from either...) and you can use the links from the page to get driving directions and only have to fill in your starting location. I looked up websites and addresses for the other tracks for the series.
If you will get there a little late and you know in advance you can call Walt at Classic and let him know and give him your frequencies and classes and he can get you in the computer so you make the check-in deadline. I've done that when driving up and run into construction delays...
Walt's equipment at "Classic Hobbies" will work with Personal Transponders as will "The Gate's". Can HobbyTown's scoring system handle Personal Transponders?

RAFster
David

5743 Chevrolet Blvd.
Parma, Oh 44130

HobbyTown Track...

Dave shouldn't the last date be Mar 25th?