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BudBartos
10-09-2004, 10:27 PM
I have a new schedule it will be on web site this week. Now 12 races 4 through outs first race HT on Oct22 ;)

RAFster
10-10-2004, 12:47 AM
Updates with corrections, addresses, map links, and websites for the tracks if applicable.
Thanks for the corrections and info Don and MicroRacer.

RAFster
David

BudBartos
10-10-2004, 08:01 PM
New schdule is on web site. First race Oct 22. Hope to see you all there :thumbsup:

BudBartos
10-11-2004, 09:46 PM
Anyone know what time doors open Friday????

RAFster
10-11-2004, 11:22 PM
Bud,
You guys getting a practice day in Friday, this Friday the 15th? Or are they doing a track build or are you referring to the 22nd?
RAFster

Robertw321
10-12-2004, 10:39 PM
David,


Hobbytown will be racing Friday the 15th. Don't know if Bud and the other BRPers will show up.

BudBartos
10-13-2004, 09:06 AM
I'm going to race this Frday !! I hope :)

Don S
10-13-2004, 12:45 PM
Yea, like you need the practice Bud.

Micro_Racer
10-13-2004, 12:47 PM
It's a nice SIMPLE track!!!! and it will change about every 6 weeks or so...:)

RAFster
10-13-2004, 01:51 PM
It's a nice SIMPLE track!!!! and it will change about every 6 weeks or so...:)
Yeah, yeah, it's a nice simple track full of hairpins and sweepers and chicanes...:p

go fast turn left go fast turn right go fast turn left, etc.

Seriously, got a sketch of the layout and how wide are the lanes?

Thanks!

RAFster

Micro_Racer
10-13-2004, 02:17 PM
7-8 foot lanes long strait...come and see for yourself :)

BudBartos
10-13-2004, 04:26 PM
Let's see how wide should they be for Rafster???????????????????????
Hope to see all of You there Friday :wave:

Micro_Racer
10-13-2004, 07:22 PM
Bud...will you have your stuff to sell Friday? (tires, bodys, ect...)

RAFster
10-14-2004, 01:48 AM
Micro, you knew I was kidding around.
I plan on coming and seeing for myself. I can't this Friday, have to work Friday evening and Saturday. Plan on coming up the 22nd to see the track and I'll probably even race.

Bud, that question you pose is relative...
When I'm trying to learn the track, they won't be wide enough possibly even if you double them... Other days 7-8 feet will be plenty wide.
The later, is far fewer numbered than the former I'm afraid.

The purple rear tires should be real nice on ozite.

Bud, what are all the new tire compounds you have now for the front and rear?

Ya need to come out with a new body for the V2 to inaugurate it...

Make a nice McLaren F1 GTR body in a wheel base that will look good and fit the BRP as well as fit on a 150mm Micro or Xray and you will tap into a market that is large.
That is one of the bodies that a large number of people requested in Body polls on HPI's forum as well as at RAD and a few other body makers.
Not sure why noone has made one.
(Car was at LeMans in '95 and stopped production in '98 with 100 total
cars made.)
# made : Model
64 : F1
5 : F1 LM
3 : F1 GT
9 : GTR 95
9 : GTR 96
10 : GTR 97

The open cockpit modern racers would also be interesting.
Hey! How about a TOJ for the SC18.V2? Nice tight track to run it on!
Or a Speed 8 or similar body that is popular with 12th scale racers.
Capitalize on the similarities to 12th scale cars.

RAFster

Micro_Racer
10-14-2004, 09:38 AM
How about a few touring car bodies....Protoform has a cool Mazda 6, but it is to small up front for the SC-18.....how about a WRX, Stratus, or BMW body.....I think the new Mustang would make a cool body....

BudBartos
10-14-2004, 10:16 AM
Yes I will have the rack if I make it !!!!!!!!!

RAFster
10-15-2004, 01:00 PM
How about a few touring car bodies....Protoform has a cool Mazda 6, but it is to small up front for the SC-18.....how about a WRX, Stratus, or BMW body.....I think the new Mustang would make a cool body....
Micro, you talking the new Shelby Mustang/GT 500? I figure unless HPI is letting the Micro die, they will be working on one. Naturally, won't fit the BRP SC18s or Pros.
I read that the Ford GT, Ford's remake of the GT40, won't be in production long due to strict emissions kicking in during the next few years on production cars. The new Ford Shelby concept going in production will replace it.
Newer cars will have emissions systems that monitor the exact fuel air mixtures and regulate the mix to lower emissions. Currently most emissions systems use a heated O2 sensor and they measure if it above or below idea 14.7:1 mix and adjust. So they cycle from rich to lean. The newer systems will cycle (measure) at higher rates and measure precisely. Looks like it might be more finicky and problematic, especially initially. Their excuse will be tighter emissions constraints cause the problem for more service (Check Engine) as a crutch for less than spectacular engineering; based on past experience with a couple makers.

RAFster

Micro_Racer
10-15-2004, 01:05 PM
this post was just RAFster'd........allways full of ______ information (you fill in the blank) one might say usefull?!?!?!?

and I like the 2005 Mustang...would make a cool body.

RAFster
10-16-2004, 01:27 AM
Micro,

Too bad there is not a Camaro remake to rekindle the Mustang vs. Camaro wars of yesteryear on the track. The last oh so many years of Camaro styling did nothing to instill any love in my heart. It was funny to see that the bulk of the Camaros drew in High Schoolers and early college students as a popular car.

So, how does one take a '68 Camaro and breath on it to give it the classic modern styling that came out in the 2005 Mustang?
Chevy in Europe, Opel, has been hurting and announced large layoffs and restructuring abroad.

The reason I digress about the Chevy Camaro is that if you are gonna have the new Mustang you gotta have something to race it against that stirs the passions in racing.

RAFster

Micro_Racer
10-16-2004, 10:34 AM
First BRP Point Race is Friday the 22nd at the new HobbyTown track. :thumbsup:


Doors open at 5:30, racing starts at 6:45-7PM.

martin297
10-17-2004, 07:42 AM
where are these track and when are you rageing in arkon and time

Micro_Racer
10-17-2004, 08:36 AM
where are these track and when are you rageing in arkon and time
This is the link to the Indoor Schedule:

http://www.brpracing.com/images/2004indoor.pdf

and take a look at post number 48 (page 4) on this thread for locations and times.

RAFster
10-17-2004, 08:20 PM
Here a link to the aforementioned (by MicroRacer) posting...it is independent of pagination (btw, page two for my user preferences) and it appears on a page all by itself... :D

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=875496&postcount=48

RAFster

BudBartos
10-18-2004, 04:20 PM
Just wanted to let the BRP series racers know that we will be racing for ribbons at all points races :) 1st thru 3rd
Another note I know I said that the pro will be allowed in stock with further consideration if You have a fiberglass pro it will be OK. If it is carbon fiber it is for mod only not legal or stock. I just don't want to allow carbon in stock!!!!
See you all next Friday it should be a good turnout.

Micro_Racer
10-18-2004, 04:27 PM
are the ribbons for 1-3 in just the A main? or all mains....

Micro_Racer
10-18-2004, 04:29 PM
Bud --- could you please define "Chinese arm" for stock......thanks

BudBartos
10-18-2004, 04:32 PM
The one that comes in the stock motor and is a parma arm. No hand wound american arms. Maybe we should do a claiming rule where You can claim a motor that you get beat with for say $25.00. If you remember last year I said anyone could buy the motor right out of my car since they said it was not legal, But did they??? NO Because they don't want to put it in there car and go slow.
Ribbons for all mains :thumbsup:

Let's have FUN !!!!!!!

Micro_Racer
10-18-2004, 04:41 PM
I like the ribbons for all mains!!!! Thanks for the clarification on the arms…I like the claiming rule – that will keep us honest! :thumbsup:

RAFster
10-19-2004, 03:59 AM
I have a 25 degree chinese arm that MAY have began life as a Parma arm...but Kelly (a small slot car motor company/tuner) had breathed on it. It no longer has the green coating on the outside of the rotors and it is rebalanced and the arm was dyed red.
While it is a Chinese arm, distinguishable by the windings not being even and straight, I would not consider it to be stock and would only run it in mod class.

RAFster

sg1
10-19-2004, 03:01 PM
Bud cheats... he wouldn't let me buy his motor...

Micro Racer.... rumor is we are team drivers now!!!!

Wayne

rayhuang
10-19-2004, 03:26 PM
both my arms are chinese!

Micro_Racer
10-19-2004, 03:57 PM
both my arms are chinese!

NICE!!!!! :)

BudBartos
10-19-2004, 05:01 PM
Ray You FUNNY!!! Maybe you can come out and join in the fun after the champs.

RAFster
10-20-2004, 01:45 AM
Ray,

Yeah, you should come join the fun and see what you can do with the BuRP. Bud and SG1 feel it helps with the 12th scale racing having ran BRP pretty much every month or more throughout the year.
It is usually a good time we have racing and a little rubbing and ribbing in good fun.

SG1 and Micro; Doesn't suprise me these rumors would roll.
Last I heard from Bud's lips is that he has NO Team drivers.
He was relating that a few in Michigan were either reporting themselves to be or others were saying they were...I forget which.

The only Team driver for BRP I know is Bud Bartos.
Were Bud to field a team you two would be up there on the list I think.
Heck he might even have Buford T. Barber, I mean Tang on the team.
Oh, Hi Tang! :wave:

Then there are a few from the PA posse who would be in the mix as well. Then possibly some of the other top drivers from the BRP points series over the past few years.

RAFster

rayhuang
10-20-2004, 02:08 AM
Running a BRP is every bit as satisfyig as running a 12th scale car-to me. I really dont know why I dont run them more. Sadly-12th scale or BRP-I am always laps down to the fast guys.....Man-I wish talent came in a bottle. I'd buy cases!! And your right- A brp will help you drive better lines and teach you to carry speed. Its like spec racing-any bobble and your slower for a half a lap and you may never make up the lost ground.

sg1
10-20-2004, 07:34 AM
Rafster...
I think you and Tang have one of those LOVE/HATE relationships... :)

Micro_Racer
10-21-2004, 07:47 AM
No it's all LOVE...;)

sg1
10-21-2004, 08:10 AM
Man/Boy LOVE?? :)

Micro_Racer
10-21-2004, 08:15 AM
RAF/Tang LOVE......a very special bond between two boys....

sg1
10-21-2004, 08:49 AM
I can't wait to see the 2 of them side by side on the drivers stand.....

RAFster
10-21-2004, 09:34 AM
You can just sense it in the air when Tang enters the room. I think he aptly said it when I did a surprise visit at HobbyTown Fairgrounds track last year and saw him as he first arrived outside. (I was headed back out to put a box back in my car.)
I said, "Hi Tang!" and his reply was...and I quote, "Oh my, God!".
Sorry for swearing but, it was a quote...
It felt like the air temperature dropped another 5 degrees...must have been just a gust of wind. :rolleyes:
<10-23 update:
I think that gives you an idea of how Tang feels and the interactions we have...>

I think I'm gonna need to wear gloves, elbow pads, a neck collar, and my son's football helmet to keep from getting hurt when Tang shoves me off the driver's stand...
I can guarantee you he won't stand next to me.

Too bad Bud doesn't make a rear bumper for his cars...somehow I think I might need one tomorrow night.

BTW, Buford T. Barber was what 2slow00 posted was his full name, is that correct??

RAFster
David

BudBartos
10-21-2004, 09:49 AM
I will bring video camera!!!!

Micro_Racer
10-21-2004, 10:03 AM
We will see if RAFster can make the first heat....you can place your bet via email to me! Racing starts at around 6:45 - 7 PM....email me the time you think RAFster will walk in the door. The one closest without going over will win...each bet $1.00

-----RAFster not eligible.....sorry.....;)

sg1
10-21-2004, 03:01 PM
There is something about running BRP cars I just LOVE!!! I think it's all the great people!!!

Micro_Racer
10-22-2004, 10:57 AM
I agree, the BRP class is full of fun nice people....see you all tonight!

Micro_Racer
10-23-2004, 12:30 AM
WOW -- a great night of racing! 18 stock and 6 mod BRP racers!! :eek: :eek:



Ribbons went to:
Name (laps)
Stock B Main:
1. Marty Mangione (17)
2. Martin Barty (15)
3. Bill Weaver (15)

Stock A Main:
1. Micro_Racer (21)
2. Gary Chapin (20)
3. Don Deutsch (19)

Mod A Main
1. Wayne Gerber (25)
0. Bud Bartos (23)
2. Patrick Barber (21)
3. Don Smolik (21)

Next race at Classic's Oct. 30th...

TangTester
10-23-2004, 01:09 AM
Thanks Bud for the use of the car. !!!

eviltone
10-23-2004, 02:06 AM
WOW -- a great night of racing! 18 stock and 6 mod BRP racers!! :eek: :eek:



Ribbons went to:
Name (laps)
Stock B Main:
1. Marty Mangione (17)
2. Martin Barty (15)
3. Bill Weaver (15)

Stock A Main:
1. Micro_Racer (21)
2. Gary Chapin (20)
3. Don Deutsch (19)

Mod A Main
1. Wayne Gerber (25)
0. Bud Bartos (23)
2. Patrick Barber (21)
3. Don Smolik (21)

Next race at Classic's Oct. 30th...
What Place is "0" place?
-Tone

Micro_Racer
10-23-2004, 07:15 AM
Bud doesn't count for points......He is the Bud in BRP (Bud's Racing Proudcts)

RAFster
10-23-2004, 07:39 AM
Fun racing tonight, I hope everyone else enjoyed the night of BuRP fun!
It looked like a bunch of Micro RS4s or Xrays out there (most of them were BRPs) with all the traction rolling. (I've only rolled my SC18 when I put too much traction compound on the fronts or I turned too abruptly. In case those new to the SC18 are reading you only need it on the inside edge about an 1/8 to 1/4" wide.)

Hope to see everyone next Saturday night at Classic.

I'm taking bets this time on my arrival time, each bet $1.00.
Racing starts at 6:00-6:30 PM with sign-in close at 5:45 PM.
Email me the time you think I, RAFster, will walk in the door.
The one closest without going over will win 75% of the pot...each bet $1.00
Hey, need to cover the gas expense from Columbus somehow! :cool: ;)