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11-12-2004, 08:24 AM
Hi Chris, I wish I could but Family first guy. It's my daughter's 8th birthday so I'll be at the ice forum doing the birthday thing. Please send flowers to my hospital room where I'll be recovering after trying to ice skate with a screeming bunch of 8 year olds.
11-12-2004, 09:58 AM
RC4LESS Bruce.Just tell em you will just video it and keep off the ice.Old bones don't heal like they used to.
11-12-2004, 11:40 AM
Bruce, Thanks for answering my question. I plan to call you today with an order.
11-12-2004, 06:07 PM
Hey Bruce remember if your about to fall dont put your hands out.wouldnt want to risk breaking a hand or an arm.Snowbirds is just around the corner.
11-12-2004, 06:39 PM
Tuck and roll :thumbsup: .
11-14-2004, 01:49 AM
I definetly understand. Good luck at the ice rink and you will probably be hearing from me at the beginning of the week.
11-18-2004, 01:09 PM
I believe it was said that exotic tires of the same duro number (say black 45 vs. purple 45) give more bite than the natural rubber tires of the same duro number. Is this correct? Whether it is or not, if the duro number is the same, which type of tire will wear faster?
11-18-2004, 05:18 PM
In the RC4Less line whites, creams, grays etc are "exotics" and pink, magenta, purple are "natural rubber". Natural rubber tires normally will give more bite and last longer (in the same durometer vs exotics). They are heavier due to having more rubber content. Exotics are usually run in stock and natural rubber in mod, not all the time though.
11-18-2004, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the answer Tommygun. Does the slight weight difference really matter?
11-18-2004, 06:26 PM
Yes, because it's rotating weight. Experiment though, thats part of the fun.
edit: I weighed some untrued tires last night and the tan was actually heaver than a pink (both 35's), but the purple was quite a bit heavier than the black (45's). So my statement is not always true. I think more people use exotics in stock though because they don't bog down the car as much.
11-24-2004, 09:18 PM
I was at then Race rock race in Orlando last saturday(nov 20th) and let me tell ya. There were a lot of racers running peculiar looking orange rims. I wonder where they all came from? Bruce, It looks as if the new tires are doing really well for you. Congrats.
11-25-2004, 12:24 AM
Got a question on the tires....I normaly run a Jaco purple (40) on the RF. I see that the RC4less purples are a 45 but the Magenta is a 40. To keep the same handling would I want the RC4Less Magenta or purple to replace the Jaco purple? I'm assuming I would want magenta but just wanted to confirm.
11-25-2004, 06:46 PM
I would go with the magenta to keep the durometer # the same.But try if with the purple also.
11-28-2004, 03:42 PM
Hi Bruce...gotta tell ya ran the same set of tires that were on the car from Race Rock at the "Minnreg T-Shoot, 3 pinks and purple, car was awesome, 4.0 laps were the fastest and even Boylan couldn't do better..ran 57 laps and that's a first for me on the rug. Was in the "A" but a little bump took the the back of the pack..
Forget the poltical BS about "I approve this message"............. I APPROVE OF ORANGE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-30-2004, 01:26 PM
TinMan is right. He was ballistic! The pro 19 turn racing was incredible!
As an unknown in the sportsman stock, it was great to watch those guys in the big show.
TinMan, you were flying! I think it was the second heat where you were right behind boylan and he couldn't get away from you. Fast and smooth!
It was a great opportunity to venture over from Texas, and learn from some of the best.
11-30-2004, 01:27 PM
If I can ask, what were the outside diameters of the tires you were running? I was hearing somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.15 to 2.20 from some of the other guys. Sound about right?
11-30-2004, 07:43 PM
Just a quick mention, i run a black and grey front, and a white grey back. What would be the same? Those are all Jaco Colors and durometers. Also my first expirence with RC4less tires was kind of a pain. I had a horrible time getting my bearings in, ended up throwing away some tires because they were practically useless. Just wondering about the Jaco to BT tire matches.
11-30-2004, 10:56 PM
Q-ball...I started with 2.20's all around and ended up with a little reverse stagger in the rear by the end of the weekend. I actually ran the same set of tires the week before at GT and started at 2.25 right side and 2.23 left side. Trued them up for Race Rock and reused them on carpet last weekend (2.13 for the carpet). Between "orange Power" and the Maverick chassis it's great combo.
12-01-2004, 10:37 AM
I think I followed most of that, but I'm unsure of one part. Correct me if I'm wrong. you said your started the turkey shoot with the tires at 2.20. Where does the 2.13 come in? Was that what they measured at the end of the weekend?
12-01-2004, 10:06 PM
2.13's is where I started on the carpet. the point was that at 2.13 it was the third week on the same set of tires, two weeks on asphalt and one week on carpet
12-02-2004, 10:16 AM
Ok! now I'm with you!
Thanks for the info!
12-02-2004, 04:59 PM
I heard rumors of not using any tire compound on these tires, because of the bite they get. Any suggestions???
12-02-2004, 06:44 PM
We race on concrete and I don't use any. Thats with TRC and RC4Less tires. I also raced on ozite and didn't use any. I was hooking up plenty fine.
Let me clarify something... tire prep gives you traction for cornering, but doesn't make a speed difference correct?
12-02-2004, 09:34 PM
Dockboy, you can use traction compounds but my general suggestion is to start out very light and work your way up. Many have found that less traction compound is faster and more consistent throughout the run. If you are used to using paragon with a 5 minute soak and then rub it off, try starting out with a 30 sec soak and rub off. If you feel you need more then just up the soak time.
12-06-2004, 07:44 AM
I have been using the on/off traction compound application, apply LR-RR-LF-RF,as soon as its on,wipe off in reverse order.
Saturday missed the combination qualifying at AJ's Raceway in DeKalb Ill., pulled up to finish 4th in 4 cell stock.
Sunday back at IROAR-Vinton IA, ran stock and 19-0. Qualified both cars a second faster than anyones previous times. Took stock track record by 2 laps, missed the 19-0 record by .18 seconds after losing 3 seconds from a backstretch launch with a pair of spinning cars.
Excellent traction,great wear, best price around. Thanks Bruce!
12-06-2004, 02:39 PM
hey phil, good run Sunday. just wanted to correct you that you took the stock track record by 3 laps...that thing was hauling
I think the next time Phil comes over he should be required to run his stock car in the 19-0 class!!!!!!!!
Great job Phil, See you January 1 in Dubuque and January 2 in Vinton.
12-06-2004, 08:16 PM
Good Job Phil!
12-07-2004, 09:12 PM
this maybe kind of a stupid question, but better safe than sorry.......Do these wheels fit most 1/10th scale arbors??
12-07-2004, 09:15 PM
Not a bad question at all. Yes they fit all the standard arbors I've run across. MaxMod, Hudy, Cobra, etc... Hey almost forgot the best arbor of them all, the RC4LESS arbor.
If your truer will cut a TRC or BSR or Jaco or TM it will work fine on the RC4LESS wheels.
12-07-2004, 09:41 PM
My older style Hudy adapter needed a modification. The aluminum nut bottomed out before it would tighten down, added a plastic cap from an armature tube with an 11/16 hole drilled in it.
12-08-2004, 12:36 AM
Cool - I'll be getting with you soon Bruce. I wanna try on some pretty new shoes!!
12-08-2004, 01:26 AM
I agree AJ, that way i would at least stand a fighting chance. Car was dialed Phil. See you guys on the 2nd. Later.
12-09-2004, 11:16 AM
I read somewhere that the exotic foams (blacks, grays, whites) would give more side bite than the natural foams (pinks, purples). Is this true?
I've got a car that is loose coming off the corner and I'm wondering if going from pink to gray (or something) may help this....
12-10-2004, 01:55 PM
Just figured I would come on and give Bruce his props. Your the man! I ordered some tires with not a whole lot of time to get them. Bruce procesed my order very fast and got them to me in time for the weekend. Having a good product is only part of being succesful in business. Having good customer service is just as important. Thanks Bruce. I can't wait to try these new tires on the track.
12-10-2004, 02:17 PM
STPUID QUESTION ALERT beep beep beep
Someone already may have asked this but...... Will there ever be another color (black) rim for these awsome tires. I ran BSR for long time (until I ran a set of these and I was hooked)None of my paint schemes go with orange ...lol
12-10-2004, 03:37 PM
BrandO thanks for the kind words. Your right about the customer service. You can have the best product in the world but if you don't take care of your customers you will go down the tube quickly.
No stupid question at all. I don't have any plans to change the color anytime in the forseeable future(hows that for legal ease!) You can always hit them with a little 400 grit sand paper and then a black spray can. Personally I like to see as much orange as I can in the tire area (LOL)
12-11-2004, 09:21 PM
Try Wheel dots. Hey Bruce will you have 1/12 tires before snowbirds or no plans on 1/12 tires just yet.
Thanks John H.
brando I will have to run my rc4 less tire this week end so you don't beat me .you will like them I do
12-12-2004, 06:12 PM
I ran my tires with the new funky wheels today. I was impressed to say the least. They hook up awesome and the wheels are tough. They are catching on at our local track. More and more peoples wheels are turning orange. Give yourself a pat on the back Bruce, you have a nice product.
12-13-2004, 09:37 AM
bojo & BrandO, thanks for the good words!!
tripleh2 no plans for 1/12 in the near term but hopefully that is in plans for the future.
12-17-2004, 10:33 PM
How do i get to the wb site to see these tires?Thanks George.
12-17-2004, 10:43 PM
12-17-2004, 10:54 PM
Bolted on a set of the RC4LESS tires and layed down to of my personalbest runs @HW in Jax 36 4:01 36 4:04 the 01 was less than a second off the track record. the car just feels more solid and alot easier to drive with these tires. plus the orange rims match my paint job
12-17-2004, 11:07 PM
Bojo, I ran these tires at K/N in 19turn. First time out I ran a 59 4:02.
12-17-2004, 11:16 PM
you know what I liked the most about these tires is when you pull them out of the package they feel fresh. and we have been playing with a durometer. these tires are right on the money. now my TRC's lol you mine when have just kicked me in the you no what and taken my money.
rc1550 good run there is a good trick to then i will tell you some day lol
our track will be selling these starting tommorow thur beefy products
12-18-2004, 12:39 AM
Bruce, do you plan to produce any Spec tires? Or maybe I should ask, do you plan to submit any Spec tires to ARCOR? I've heard nothing but great things about your tires and I'd love to give them a try!
12-18-2004, 08:14 AM
I think the new tires and rims are NICE........ I saw T-Gun with some on his ride and he was as fast as ever.
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