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J FAST 09-04-2004, 11:11 PM Yeah, no doubt!!! Waaaaay too funny. Wonder if he'll do it again this year??
Are you planning on going to the champs again this year?? (I already have my room reservations in)Heck yeah I'm going!! That's one race I wouldn't want to miss. Quick question how many days left? LOL :lol:
Fred Knapp 09-04-2004, 11:14 PM About 72. Lol
Dustin 09-04-2004, 11:53 PM Hey John,
Is racing for GLRC still going to cost $15.00? I personally think it should be cheaper. I make twenty bucks a week doing things around the house and that pays for racing but MAN.... the expence ads up. I mean think about it:
*Riders racing:$5.00
*West olive:$10.00?
*Battle Creek tropy race:$10.00
I know that there are other factors to consider. But it is just an opinion.
What do you think?
-Dustin :dude:
Cooter 09-05-2004, 12:59 AM Hey John,
Is racing for GLRC still going to cost $15.00? I personally think it should be cheaper. I make twenty bucks a week doing things around the house and that pays for racing but MAN.... the expence ads up. I mean think about it:
*Riders racing:$5.00
*West olive:$10.00?
*Battle Creek tropy race:$10.00
I know that there are other factors to consider. But it is just an opinion.
What do you think?
-Dustin :dude:
West olive is $15 and keep in mind these places you quote prices from have no overhead, no rent, last years building was $3000 a month take an average entry fee after club discount of lets say $14 thats 214 racers a month or 54 entries a week so unless you can find a building for just about free you are going to need to price accordingly! :cool:
Dustin 09-05-2004, 10:09 AM True.
Phat Dakota 09-05-2004, 03:23 PM Hopefully we can get someone that carries associated AND Losi parts. :jest:
I've had no problems getting losi parts from Rider's
:freak:
Phat Dakota 09-05-2004, 03:25 PM Is that the place with 40 some stairs that we hafta climb to get to where we race?!? :confused:
Yes, it is, but there is an elevator for those not capable of climbing stairs, like Dave Waltion, Scotty or others with a lot of stuff.
Phat Dakota 09-05-2004, 03:44 PM West olive is $15 and keep in mind these places you quote prices from have no overhead, no rent, last years building was $3000 a month take an average entry fee after club discount of lets say $14 thats 214 racers a month or 54 entries a week so unless you can find a building for just about free you are going to need to price accordingly! :cool:
Well let's not worry about the numbers here. I've always wondered why that $3000 / month was the magic number for rent. I hate to sound like a poophead with my last few posts but this whole thing is getting way out of hand here. Bottom line is that there is going to be racing in the Grand Rapids area. Period, End of Story! I'm not making any speculations, pointing fingers. But I am getting really upset that everyone is ranting and complaining about a building having stairs, or being more than 20 seconds from where they live or needing X amount of racers per week to make ends meet. You guys should be lucky that there are people out willing to put forth their hard work and time and money to make sure that there is a place to race here in GR. You guys should feel good, look at all the guys from the Holland area that race stadium. They've never had a track 20 seconds, or 20 minutes from where they live and they still show up in hordes to run stadium every saturday night no matter what the weather. I'll be at this meeting at Russ' this Friday, and I'm going to say a lot of things that are going to upset some people but that's my buisness. I've been doing this for the better part of 15 years now, and have been involved in the running of not only GR clubs, but two clubs in other states since I was 15 years old. Everyone needs to be thankful of what myself, Marty, Tony, John, and everyone else has done for us in the past 4 years since I've moved up here. And with that, I'm done. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanakkah, Happy Kwanzaa, and Happy New Year,!
This makes me so mad I'm going to quit drinking. :mad:
John Warner 09-05-2004, 03:49 PM What about Thanksgiving??? LoL!
Dustin 09-05-2004, 04:04 PM I've had no problems getting losi parts from Rider's
:freak:
Well you must not have a MF2, because Riders already said that they will not be carrying much spare parts for them unless special ordered. :freak: :freak:
Dustin 09-05-2004, 04:19 PM As for the club meeting............
At the moment we're shooting for 7:00PM Friday,
September 10th at Russ's on 28th street.
I will confirm this later this week.
Is this forsure?
Thanks,
-Dustin :dude:
John Warner 09-05-2004, 04:27 PM As you know, the $3,000.00 monthly figure is the most that we've ever been able to afford to pay is. (last year, it was beyond what we took in because of the decline in onroad and the non-exsitance of oval) Most warehouse buildings in the 10,000 to 12,000 square foot range normally lease/rent for an average of $5,000.00 to $7,000.00 per month or more in the Grand Rapids area. Since we are a 501C-3 NonProfit corporation, they can use us as a tax deduction and in turn give us a "deal" on a 7 month short term month to month lease. And again, that's a warehouse type of building. Strip malls or "front line" buildings with good traffic flow and exposure can cost upwards to $10,000.00 to $15,000.00 per month!
John Warner 09-05-2004, 04:32 PM This year, we're not planning on having two seperate tracks as in the past from what my thoughts are. Having only one track will allow us to secure a smaller building in the $1,500.00 to $2,500.00 price range. A 7,000 to 8,000 facility will suffice just fine.
John Warner 09-05-2004, 04:33 PM Is your nevertell working?
Let me go and check it........... it's in the garage and normally doesn't have a signal there.
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 05:07 PM oops!!!!!!!!!!!
Blueskid 09-05-2004, 05:18 PM Well I'm a hard core racer, and I personaly will travle any where to race.. Driving a couple hours even is no big deal to me.. So what ever you guys decide, you can count on me to be racing somewhere.. Just remember one thing, this is spossed to be fun guys.. It's a hobby not a soap oppera! sheelsh!
Dustin 09-05-2004, 06:21 PM Yeah,
As long as there is a track I will be happy. But I am going crazy waiting for mid October! :roll: :roll: :roll:
-Dustin
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 06:52 PM same with me as long as i can get a ride or find a car to buy
Fred Knapp 09-05-2004, 07:04 PM I think everyone needs to go run a few laps tomorrow, yeah thats it.......!
J FAST 09-05-2004, 07:12 PM HARA WINS the gas nats!!! As if he wasnt going to. That dude is the best rc driver just goes to show it doesnt matter what car you have if you can set it up and are one hell of a driver he took that big fat pig of a hpi r40 and put it to the top good job HARA you are the MAN.
fred ill be down for some laps tomarrow!!! :thumbsup:
Phat Dakota 09-05-2004, 07:29 PM Well you must not have a MF2, because Riders already said that they will not be carrying much spare parts for them unless special ordered. :freak: :freak:
No, I sure don't, but I did place a $200+ order for my XXX-S and Denney has also and have gotten all my parts within a week.
Just because they don't have it in stock doesn't mean they won't order it for you.
There are a few guys with X-Ray cars that have no on site spare parts that have no problems getting what they need. Just place an order, OR you can go direct with Horizon or Stormer Hobbies and pay more and pay shipping and sit and wait for your parts. It's up to you.
John Warner 09-05-2004, 07:33 PM Or......... you could try and get parts for a Tamiya EVO3!!
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 08:51 PM No, I sure don't, but I did place a $200+ order for my XXX-S and Denney has also and have gotten all my parts within a week.
Just because they don't have it in stock doesn't mean they won't order it for you.
There are a few guys with X-Ray cars that have no on site spare parts that have no problems getting what they need. Just place an order, OR you can go direct with Horizon or Stormer Hobbies and pay more and pay shipping and sit and wait for your parts. It's up to you.
uhhhhhhhhhhhh do u feel special or something cause u placed a 200+ order, all he did was say that he hoped that the supplier would carry a varity of losi and associated parts, now tell me was that a big enough deal to say something about, and make yourself look stupid
:tongue: :thumbsup:
Fred Knapp 09-05-2004, 09:05 PM I would like to remind everyone to try and keep it positive and constructive.
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 09:11 PM hey all im doing is defending a friend well hes gone and cant do it for himself i hated to say what i did, ok but i think it was wrong, :thumbsup:
RedRum 09-05-2004, 09:39 PM uhhhhhhhhhhhh do u feel special or something cause u placed a 200+ order, all he did was say that he hoped that the supplier would carry a varity of losi and associated parts, now tell me was that a big enough deal to say something about, and make yourself look stupid
:tongue: :thumbsup:
I don?t think badandy it trying to look special are anything just tried of the junk that is being posted and as for looking stupid your doing a good job at it all by your self .And as for sticking up for your friends I think I would let them answerer for them self I don?t think your doing them any GOOD .OH and one more thing wasn?t your nickname captain practice.
Cooter 09-05-2004, 09:40 PM Yes, it is, but there is an elevator for those not capable of climbing stairs, like Dave Waltion, Scotty or others with a lot of stuff.
Thats cool cause thats alot of stairs to carry all the crap I take along to race :thumbsup:
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 09:44 PM no my nickname wasnt cap. practice, and im sticking up for my friend cause he is gone and i dont know when he will be able to get back on, also if im making myself look stupid for helping my friend then u just joined the club by helping bad andy
RedRum 09-05-2004, 09:46 PM Thats cool cause thats alot of stairs to carry all the crap I take along to race :thumbsup:
Maybe you get all your kids to help carry your crap up the stairs .
Cooter 09-05-2004, 09:50 PM Mmmmmm Redrum. A Charles Manson reference? :confused:
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 09:51 PM what did u make a special name to defend andy, or is it u andy defending your self to make it look like u have friends
Cooter 09-05-2004, 09:54 PM Maybe you get all your kids to help carry your crap up the stairs .
Nah the elevator is easier my pit box is as big as my daughter I dont think she can carry it. LOL :cool: :thumbsup:
Fred Knapp 09-05-2004, 10:07 PM I have always felt that the best part of our hobby are
the relationships built on competition and shared goals.
Again, I would like to remind everyone to try and keep it positive and constructive.
ric-o'-shea 09-05-2004, 10:08 PM I dont care if it is up stairs or down stairs its a place to race and some fun run by bunch good guys so can please stop all junk and get back to RC STUFF.
PS. if you dont like the place dont race there KInd of like if dont like what on the tv Change the channel.
:eek: :eek:
Dustin 09-05-2004, 10:09 PM Wow,
Lot happend since I was gone. I gotta say though David Washburn is right. All I said was that I hoped the track seller would sell Losi parts as well as associated parts. My reason for that is because they didn't last year. I am not stupid, I have recently ordered over $300 in parts including my truck in the last month and I know that I can get everything in a week. But Andy, think about it...........If a part was broken on a Losi truck and the guy didn't have it, you can't wait a week to get a part and go back in time to the race to fix your truck!
Shhhhheeeeeeeeesh!
Dave Walton 09-05-2004, 10:11 PM Jessie did you get the e mail I sent you.
tonyw 09-05-2004, 10:14 PM I have started a new thread "West Machigan RC Racing".
Please use this thread to find out infomation and comments on the new indoor and the Riders OnRoad track.
ric-o'-shea 09-05-2004, 10:17 PM Are you asking that the guys who run the track start a hobby shop at the track. if so good luck the guy who did it last year rip a ton guys off and that not good for the hobby .But i know that when i race i try and have back up parts on hand .
Dave Walton 09-05-2004, 10:18 PM If you guys are so worried about support parts why dont you bring them with you. After all you should have what you need when you go to the track.Being prepared and thinking ahead is part of racing.Granted you cant have everything but the parts that break often you should have with you.
Dustin 09-05-2004, 10:18 PM No crap,
but you don't always have a spare part to replace every part on your truck. And besides John mentiond having someone do it so don't point fingers.
ric-o'-shea 09-05-2004, 10:20 PM If you guys are so worried about support parts why dont you bring them with you. After all you should have what you need when you go to the track.Being prepared and thinking ahead is part of racing.Granted you cant have everything but the parts that break often you should have with you.
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Dave Walton 09-05-2004, 10:22 PM No fingers being pointed. If you are serious about racing you will have what you need when you go racing.
J FAST 09-05-2004, 10:22 PM Jessie did you get the e mail I sent you.
no Dave i didnt get it ill pm you my new address.
Fred Knapp 09-05-2004, 10:24 PM I have started a new thread "West Machigan RC Racing".
Please use this thread to find out infomation and comments on the new indoor and the Riders OnRoad track.Thanks Tony
Dustin 09-05-2004, 10:25 PM No fingers being pointed. If you are serious about racing you will have what you need when you go racing.
I have everything I need, but if you break an uncommon part to break, and no one has it in stock, YOUR SCREWED! By what your saying I my as well drop another $600 in MF2 kits as spares.
John Warner 09-05-2004, 10:26 PM Maybe you get all your kids to help carry your crap up the stairs .
I love people who hide behind a handle. It's apparent that you know Tim since you've made referance to his "kids". Bet you're not willing to let us know who you are, right?
Dustin 09-05-2004, 10:27 PM I love people who hide behind a handle. It's apparent that you know Tim since you've made referance to his "kids". Bet you're not willing to let us know who you are, right?
Exactly.
David Washburn 09-05-2004, 10:27 PM hey dude not everyone has the money to buy parts in advance like us who cant find a job or are not old enough to get a job, and for us who dont have the money we can barly afford to race let alone buy 30 or so dollars in parts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Walton 09-05-2004, 10:27 PM Jessie I sent you a PM.
Dave Walton 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM hey dude not everyone has the money to buy parts in advance like us who cant find a job or are not old enough to get a job, and for us who dont have the money we can barly afford to race let alone buy 30 or so dollars in parts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you want someone else to invest Thousands of dollars in parts so when you need a 5 dollar part you can get it. If you cant afford to have some spare parts maybe you need a new hobby.
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