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Micro_Racer
08-15-2004, 10:08 AM
OK -- the race is Sept. 11th and starts at 4PM. From BRP it is about 3 1/2 hours drive to the race.

I think Bud was not going the night before..... Who is going and on what day?


I think I will leave on the 11th and stay that night......

Nil
08-15-2004, 10:30 AM
I'm thinking about it. It starts at 4:00 Indiana time, which is 5:00 Ohio time (I think).

Does anyone know about tires for it? There has been some talk about custome tires for the track.

BudBartos
08-15-2004, 03:51 PM
I say we go Sat early and stay that night!!!

RAFster
08-15-2004, 09:19 PM
Depending on where in Indiana...the time in Eastern Indiana does not change to Daylight Savings Time. I heard the only thing that worked on the high banked Oval was Capped tires? Is that true?

Mapquest tells me to expect a 4 hour and 5 minute drive to Lagrange, IN from my house.

collins77
08-19-2004, 03:11 PM
Anyone have a link for a flyer for this race?

RAFster
08-19-2004, 06:45 PM
Anyone have a link for a flyer for this race?
Mike,

I thought it was apparent but it was not...This is linked to the thread:
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=85827
In fact when I emailed you the other night and didn't reaized I was looking at the entire thread on this page about the Indiana race.
The thread linked has the race announcement and discussion.

Foams work well if you play with the compounds. For BRPs you will see
the setup being used by DWBryan...
It is interesting to see harder rear tires needed.
I didn't realize Bud made Orange rear tires.

Racing there would give you a shot at Bud and several Cleveland area BRP racers. It would also give the Indiana and Cleveland crowd a sample of fast Micro RS4 racers... (Well, Penguin chassis and micro hop-ups to run the Speed 300.) Naturally you would be racing Mod class.

I think this will give you a rough idea of the way to get in the ballpark
Using the E Us Highway 20 & N 300 E, Lagrange, IN as the destination.
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&un=m&2tabval=address&1n=Montgomery&cl=EN&ct=NA&1v=CITY&1tabval=address&1y=US&1a=&1c=Dayton&1s=OH&1z=&1ah=8wjWGWVvVg7zj%252b9kArd2SOeBaiyEhDSgFbG667vjZ8 K6cz66uVvv%252b9FenJ5ivKLH&2y=US&2a=US+20+and+CR+300E&2c=Lagrange&2s=IN&2z=&2ah=&idx=0&id=41251e46-00323-0272a-cdbcf374&aid=41251e46-00324-0272a-cdbcf374
Dayton (center) to LaGrange ( E Us Highway 20 & N 300 E)
3.5 hours...
The Schoolyard website in the other Hobbytalk thread will give you directions from LaGrange.

RAFster
David

Nil
08-19-2004, 07:05 PM
Anyone have a link for a flyer for this race?
For Schoolyard's main page:

http://www.rcspeedway.net/

For the race:

http://www.rcspeedway.net/special/inchmp.html

(It's a framed site; to get to the race flyer from the main page, click "Special Events," then "INOCHMP."

Micro_Racer
08-20-2004, 12:37 PM
So Who Is Going????????????????

ZOOOOM
08-20-2004, 03:01 PM
:cry: I will not be able to make it. It will be to close to my wifes due date. With my luck, I will get down there to race and have to turn around and high tail it back for my little girls arrival. :roll:

BudBartos
08-20-2004, 04:40 PM
I'm not sure yet! I know Don S said it is a no go.

WARBIRD
08-20-2004, 07:26 PM
I will be in Baton Rouge again.

collins77
08-23-2004, 11:22 AM
What's the rules for a Micro RS4 to compete?

BudBartos
08-23-2004, 03:25 PM
I think You would run Mod and anything goes !!!!

Nil
08-28-2004, 01:21 AM
So Who Is Going????????????????At this point, I am certainly preparing. I ordered two sets of tires per DWBryan's specs, but Wil doesn't seem interested. Teenagers! He's starting to discover other, and ultimately more expensive, things. :cool:

DWBryan
08-28-2004, 02:46 AM
I grabbed this from the other forum.
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I personaly run a soft brp green on the LF and a box stock blue on the RF... and I get the best results with orange on the rear... I got the record of 31 laps in a 4 min run with that tire setup.. I think I had a blue spring on the RF and a orange on the LF, blue box stock on the motor pod.
Driver that have a 10t pinion can use it... but 10t is a high as you can go... 1 driver here has a 44t spur that bud use to carry running with a 10t pinion and he does pretty good, keeps up with me running a stock 45t with a 10t pinion... he got a 30 lap run.

WAZZER
In my only outing in July, I ran "Da Track" setup on my SC-18, hard orange fronts and long wear green on the rear, stock orange springs, and a 9 pinion, 48 spur combo and did 30 laps. So I know that would at least get you in the ballpark. I did have to dial out almost all of the steering, the banked turns will let you do that. If not, the slightest over correction on the wheel results in a spinout.

DW has a whole lot more time on the track than I do, so next time out I'm gonna try his tire set up. See if it will get me in that 31 lap range.

Yea I can get it around the track with the harder compounds on the front.. but it sure seems more touchy. the softer on the RF made it a lot more forgiving for a smoother turn.
It has been asked how many classes are racing that day. Im letting Nitro Trucks and Electro Trucks race, BUT 1/18th has priority!
When 1/18th is ready they race.... Example say we have 20 1/18th scales, & 10 nitro trucks & 5 electro trucks... 1/18th will be 1st up 10 & 10 then the others but say electro truck is next but the 1/18th is also... 1/18th will race and after them the Electro trucks can get one in and so on.
This will let the 1/18th do it all before the night gets too long for long haul drivers.
With 20 enterys we can be done in 2 to 2 1/2 hrs.. racing 4 races per driver entered.
I REALLY had a good time when I drove all the way to Acron.. but 2 am in the morining was a rough drive home ( especially since it was close to a blizzard) LOL
So I figured this way would be best for the 1/18th scale drivers.

This place is real EASY to find... get on US20 in Indiana and head west untill you come into LaGrange County... just count down the county roads untill you come to cr300e.. you found the place... Im right on the corner of us20 and cr 300e.
just drive up in the rear of the place and the track and facilities are right there. ;)

squeeker138
09-01-2004, 09:15 PM
To those that are comming via the toll rd. there are 2 good ways to get here depending what your preference is.
#1 Get off of the last exit (#2) in ohio (cr. 49) and head west approx 30 mi.
Oh to In 2 mi.
In line to Angola 10 mi.
Angola to Lagrange 20 mi.
Keep going west till you get you get to the town of Plato (both houses and a church) @ approx 25 mi. from the toll rd. (only 2 mi to go) from there you will go over hill the track will be on the left approx 1/4 mi. more.
#2 Keep going on the toll Rd. into In. go to the 2nd exit in In. @ exit 121 the Howe/Sturgis. Head south to Lagrange via Howe. Go to the light turn left, east 3 mi. to track.

squeeker138
09-01-2004, 09:18 PM
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squeeker138
09-01-2004, 09:37 PM
the track is 3 mi. East of Lagrange on the south east corner of the intrsection. Look for the school house. The track is in the backyard.

RAFster
09-01-2004, 09:54 PM
I didn't realize Bud made Orange rear tires. I knew he made Greens and Blues. Did you have Bud make you some Orange rears?

RAFster

Nil
09-02-2004, 12:04 AM
http://www.brpracing.com/18tires.html

#390

DWBryan
09-02-2004, 12:09 AM
Yea thats the ones #390 are for the SC18 and for the funones its #401.

2slow00
09-02-2004, 03:58 PM
DW sorry I can't make the trip this year. Hope to make next years race. Dick

WARBIRD
09-02-2004, 07:07 PM
flipping thru the october rc driver and in the ad for powerpush, lo and behold there's SG1. Looking a little closer and there is a BRP logo on the front fender, doesn't get much better, may have to try some of them 3300 sub-c's. Hope they fit the sc18 slots :thumbsup:

BudBartos
09-02-2004, 10:46 PM
Power Push Number One !!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAFster
09-03-2004, 12:51 AM
Yeah, Wayne has been getting in the press a bit. He shared with me
that Novak had used his name in an ad without his permission and misrepresented the equipment he used in the win. Manufacturers falsely feel if you use their equipment they have a right to use your name in an ad pushing their product.

I'll never have a manufacturer wanting to use my name in an ad.

David

ZOOOOM
09-03-2004, 07:25 AM
I want to be just like wayne when I grow up!!!

TangTester
09-03-2004, 08:28 AM
Rafster,

Don't be hard on yourself, Maybe Vulva, I mean Volvo, will use you in an ad. Proving that anyone can work on their cars.

BudBartos
09-03-2004, 10:25 AM
Tang You bad :hat: Maybe ronnie can make a Volvo body for the BRP car!!!!

sg1
09-03-2004, 11:39 AM
TANGTESTER said "VULVA"......

sg1
09-03-2004, 11:40 AM
BRP and POWER PUSH go hand and hand...
LIke water and oil!!!!

TangTester
09-03-2004, 12:03 PM
Bud,

Just make sure that Ronnie doesn't make it so that the doors are too thin.....You wouldn't want anything to fall out.

sg1
09-03-2004, 02:51 PM
Hey Bud...
What is TANGTESTER talking about????

BudBartos
09-03-2004, 05:06 PM
Da I don't know !!!!!!!!!!!

Nil
09-06-2004, 12:29 AM
What is TANGTESTER talking about????Who ever knows? Maybe the drill slipped again? We'll know if he has servo tape on his ear!

Micro_Racer
09-06-2004, 11:51 AM
1/18 Indiana Concrete Oval
State Championship Race


1/18 scale IS Getting READY for the
INDIANA STATE Concrete Oval CHAMPION RACE! Sept-11-2004
Starting at 4:OOpm You may use the aluminum replacement parts
(if availible for your kit).

Spur gear must be type availible from manufacturer.

The motor MUST be a STOCK type as shipped by
the manufacturer, (exaple BRP uses a Parma 16D).
Remember they MUST be STOCK!

Pinion alowance is 1 tooth more than out of box.
(Example BRP SC-18 comes with a 9 so a 10 is legal. All cars/trucks will be weighed and must not be lighter
than manufacturers designed weight.
But you can be as heavy as you wish.

Drivers must race the same RC in each race,
No changing cars/trucks.

All drivers must have at least 1 alternate freqency.
All drivers and types will run together with a
maximum lineup of 10 RC's on the track.

All RC's will be teched after each run. Drivers will race 4 four minute races/heats and the best 3 will be totaled
together droping the 1 worst run and the top 10 drivers with the most laps will
advance to the 6 minute feature event,..
The Race for Indiana Concrete Oval 1/18th
scale CHAMPIONSHIP RACE!! 1st, 2nd & 3rd place will be provided awards and title. Entry Fee is only $10.oo per driver.
Spectators are FREE!!


240ft of banked concrete awaits. the rules for the race per the school yard web site.......

sg1
09-06-2004, 02:39 PM
That was a BIG posting.....

swamp thing
09-06-2004, 03:11 PM
Maybe he is making up for what he lacks. GOOD LUCK to all that is going

DWBryan
09-07-2004, 01:35 AM
Yep thats a BIG posting for a BIG event. ;)
I'd like to also add to that... As far as the BRP Manufatured 1/18th scales motor, Bud makes a hand picked... it is considered a stock motor.. or installing the XP magnets are also ok... all other manufactures 1/18th scales such as M18 Xray, Losi Mini T, Etc may also install a factory hopup, as long as it is stock.
All classes stock or mod is limited to 6 cells. 2/3, A, AA, AAA, C, D, Auomotive 12v, Nucular atomic plazma reactor, or ION drive... as long as its just 6 cells max.
Same as bodys.. they must be a 1/18th scale body, and you must runa body.
As far as transponder mounting... we use the AMB-20 (STD) transponders.. so its best if they can be mounted laying down and not vertical.. and must be a location under the body where it can recieve some protection.. after all they cost $144 each now acording to AMB... ( RIP/2 high) since just last year I could get a NEW one for $80, now that will just fix one. (experiance talking!!)

Micro_Racer
09-07-2004, 08:40 AM
how about Personal Transponders?

DWBryan
09-08-2004, 12:00 AM
I'll have the new personals system next year.... this is a older one and they dont work with it... BUT Im selling this one to get the NEW one for next year.
I have the AMB-20 system with 39 transponders to sell.
Its the computer & everything to make the system ready to race... so far the best offer I have for it is $1550.oo
The transponders cost $144 ea to replace... the decoder is $1780, the Loop and cable is $120, the IO card is $68, the charging rack is $150 I think? and the computer is a pentium 1 233mhz with 64mb ram.
All in all the system to replace it all new with the same stuff would cost over $5500.oo easy.
Great to get started with if a person dont have any.
I wish it worked with the personals.. but it dont... we used it for 2 years and its a great system but a bit behind the new cutting edge of technology today.. sooooo Im updating it.

Micro_Racer
09-08-2004, 10:08 PM
OK sg1, Bud, and I are all set to go!

---DWBryan --- is tire compound OK to use?

DWBryan
09-09-2004, 02:02 AM
Yea if you can get it to work for ya.. go for it. :)
I run em just clean and dry... but that works for me.

RAFster
09-09-2004, 01:32 PM
Good luck to everyone racing and I hope everyone has safe travels.
Have fun!

David

sg1
09-09-2004, 02:22 PM
I wish RAFSTER was going!!! BUD is there room for him to squeeeeeze in with us???

BudBartos
09-09-2004, 05:12 PM
Yes we can meet him there !!! :)

BudBartos
09-09-2004, 10:11 PM
I will have some big block motors but no motor plate !!!!

RAFster
09-10-2004, 12:42 AM
local hobby shop has big block plates I think...for micros

RAFster
09-10-2004, 02:00 AM
If you have never raced with a Big Block in a micro you don't know what you are in for... Granted it will be faster but if you don't have them you will need steel dogbones and aluminum front steering knuckles (for durability) and the diffs need to be tightened up to handle the power. That is the tip of the iceberg as I understand it. It takes a bit more than just slapping in the Big Block to make it reliable. Mike Collins could give you some good guidelines and advice.
In stock form with 6 cells and the single pinion from stock rule a Micro is going to have a challenge with the stock SC18s on an oval.

RAFster
09-10-2004, 02:11 PM
Bud, if you are referring to the fellow who raced at Classic, yes after much experimenting and some adaptation he started running your tires or foam and it took some custom machining to get it to work.
Yes, big block in the SC18 is a handful and requires skills few possess to run it as fast as a stock motor and few run it as well as Bud does. HP is no substitute for skill.

The Micros often use the Big Block but they have several other upgrades needed.
A Micro with some more radical gearing and other mods (chassis, etc.) can keep up with the stock SC18 in a straight line but, unless you have working out rolling problems in the corners, then the SC18 can dominate.

David

BudBartos
09-10-2004, 05:27 PM
See You all Saturday!!! It will be interesting :)
I do have some of the new SC18 V2 chassis and also some Pro chassis and a rack of parts .