Hi in 2006 they are planning a new Star Trek movie to take place in Archers timeline but I don't think the Enterprise crew from Enterprise will be in it,The story may have to do with the Romulan war,Would people like to see one more movie with the Next Generation cast,We might get to see Rikers new command,The USS Titan,and somehow B-4 will evolve into Datas replacement and of course an action storyline,A model of the USS Titan maybe?But Nemesis didn't make as much money as the other movies and its a long shot,And did people like Star Trek Nemesis,Thanks,Guy Schlicter.

Archer's timeline with the TNG cast?

Archer's timeline without the Enterprise crew?

Sounds like Trek films should take a good, long rest. Maybe at the 50th anniversary? 2016 anyone?

I will give a better comment when there is more information, but to your other question. Did I like Nemesis? NO. I enjoy ST and STTNG but after the first movie and wrath of Kahn it seemed every director or set designer keep changing the layout of the ship look at undiscovered country bunks as on a naval type ship for the crew? A galley where they were cooking food? In final fronteer if thats the right name where the Enterprise is taken over in search of God, if I remember correctly where Kirk, Mccoy and Spock fly up the turbo shaft to deck 74? Then in Nemesis view ports on the bridge where a view screen give ton more information and views what were they thinking. Would I like another ST movie YES if the writing is better and they look at a design book or two. And last finding another data just before the original is destroyed next they'll be finding them in every corner drug store. GEEEEEZ.

IMDb has a listing for something like 'Unnamed Star Trek Project', directed by Nicholas Meyers.

here it is;

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408305/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408305/)

hmmmmmm, romulan war.......and nicholas meyer (trek 2 and 6)..........sounds interesting......but berman is still there, agh. if its just his general idea, it might be ok, if hes doing any of the writing (or coaching any of the writing), then this might be another flop.

Pure crap. :drunk: :( :confused:

IMDb is a great source for looking up details of finished films, but is prone to rumors regarding current prospectibve projects. Nick Meyer has been rumored for awhile and at least one person has claimed he and Berman are friends. I can't see him bowing to Berman's micromanagement, though. We'll see. Interesting rumor, if only for Meyer's involvement. Beyond that, I've no interest in the film.

Did I like Nemesis? No. Not on ANY level. It's the only trek movie I didn't like at least something about, and the only Trek film I won't own a copy of. Trek V had an inept script and cheap effects, but it had it's heart in the right place. Insurrection I enjoyed for it's story and dilemma in spite of the movie's flaws. Generations was a mixed bag of good and bad (good and awful, really). But Nemesis?

Bad script with inane plotting, absurd action sequences, a boring villain engendering an unexplored and hamhanded "what it means to be human" pretension, more of the usual awful humor involving Data and Worf, a thoroughly unnecessary scene involving Trois being raped because the director thought that would be "cool" (his comment from the dvd - doesn't that say enough right there??) which adds nothing to the story save a deus ex machina, Remans (we've been waiting YEARS for a good Romulan movie, and when we finally get it. they're the good guys making a cameo appearance to introduce some uninspired vampires??)...oh, god, there's more...B4 (how calculatedly treacly even beyond the bad pun name)...

...but worst of all, it doesn't have any human feeling! The whole thing proceeds with zero empathy for it's characters, Picard seems to have no response whatsoever ot learning of his clone, the other characters play out their parts without emotional resonance or interaction...I felt NOTHING watching this film. And, see, I liked TNG and it's cast and characters! Here I felt no connection to them at all. Even Final Frontier, ridiculous as it is, at least gave me that warm, comfortable feeling of being around old friends.

Nemesis offers nothing on any level: intellectual, empathic, or exciting.

I haven't seen any of them since Kirk got hit with a plasma worm whatsis, and it would have to have fantastic word of mouth to get me in there.

^^ (Dreamer), while I share your technical views, I liked, it, BUT, I was at the Las Vegas Convention and Marina Sirtis got up and half tongue in cheek half serious said (after someone asked about another trek movie with the TNG), that "it's not our fault! You guys really let us down with Nemesis"!!

I liked Nemesis too. While I found some flaws in the movie (the whole thing with B4 was annoying. If they truly wanted to be innovative, it should have been Lore), it was the first TNG motion picture and I enjoyd it as such.

Having said that...

I do find it a bit aggravating that if a film succeeds, it is obviously because the director's a genius, the cast was superb and that the screenwriter is the NEXT BEST THING... but if a movie fails, it's obviously the fans' fault...:drunk: :rolleyes: :confused:

On topic, I don't care what the next Trek movie is. If it's a Berman flick I'm not seeing it (José's wife lets out a sigh of relief).

José

I did like in Nemesis where the ships collide....cant think of anything else...oh yeah, when the credits ran. I think "The English Patient" would have had me jumping up and down in my chair more.

I liked Nemesis too. While I found some flaws in the movie (the whole thing with B4 was annoying. If they truly wanted to be innovative, it should have been Lore), it was the first TNG motion picture and I enjoyd it as such.
Come again? Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, then Nemesis. Fourth, not first.
Sorry to nitpick (although I'm sure one of our esteemed fellow posters would've done it if I hadn't jumped in first :) )

Simple question: could Star Trek be in more disarray than it is now?

Come again? Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, then Nemesis. Fourth, not first.
I was thinking he meant to say it was the last TNG film.

If the next film features the Romulan war, it will be the idea of whoever created that for the original series episode when it was mentioned (speaking technically). The biggest problem with the idea cinematically is really the same problem with seeing them on Enterprise -- the Starfleet characters cannot see them face-to-face -- unless they are killed or otherwise unable to remember having done so. I suppose they could pose as Vulcans ...

It is really a pity, to my mind, that this was established in TOS the way it was, as the only reason for it was that when the appearance of the Romulans was revealed, they could have a crew member who was suspicious of Spock.

Meyer would probably make an exciting film, but (judging by his audio commentary for, especially, the STVI DVD) he has less respect for continuity than Berman allegedly has.

Qapla'

SSB

Come again? Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, then Nemesis. Fourth, not first.
Sorry to nitpick (although I'm sure one of our esteemed fellow posters would've done it if I hadn't jumped in first :) )

I was thinking he meant to say it was the last TNG film.

Great guesses Jim & Scott, but no. :) I meant that Nemesis was the first TNG movie that felt like a motion picture to me. All others felt like glorified TV episodes. Sorry for the confusion.

José

I agree with dreamer on all counts...Nemesis was unbearable. I'd sooner sit through ANY of the previous Treks...

Insurrection was a close motion picture.

I totally agree that F Contact and Generations we decent 2 part cliffhanger episodes.

I was thinking he meant to say it was the last TNG film.
Meyer would probably make an exciting film, but (judging by his audio commentary for, especially, the STVI DVD) he has less respect for continuity than Berman allegedly has.


continuity was shot to the pit of fire in tng anyway. no two series, or movies, seem to share anything other than basic warp power, phasers, torpedoes, and transporters. and personally, i dont care. gives us as fans more room to make up things on our own, engaging our own creativity.

if meyer is really on this, then all we have to worry about is berman hiring good writers, and good acting (writing should take precendence though, how about some of the novel writers, or steal some of the stargate team? more good ideas there than have been on recent trek).

writing should take precendence though, how about some of the novel writers
I think they just did that for Enterprise -- Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, who have written books on their own and co-written (to one degree or another) the Trek novels of William Shatner.

Qapla'

SSB

Nearly 15 yrs too late. The Reeves-Stevenses, while downright lousy as Trek historian/journalists, may be the very BEST Trek novelists ever, and their notions on character and incorporating SF elements would lend themselves to tv/film style storytelling. After reading PRIME DIRECTIVE and FEDERATION (and to a lesser degree MEMORY PRIME), I felt it was like they channelled Gene Coon but with a respect for science -- they blew me away. They have got superb sequences in the first couple Shatner novels (a very CREDIBLE ramming scene, for one), but the inaccuracies in their nonfic stuff got me so PO'd I stopped reading them altogether.

But even having said that, and even having only watching about 80 minutes of ENTERPRISE in the last 2 years because I so despise it, I am still going to tune in this next season to watch any show that they have their names on -- because I think they could make a HUGE difference to ENTERPRISE. Just please god don't let them write a 'making of' book on the show (as if anybody could possibly put a good spin on the making of ENT!!!!)

Berman promises it will not center around "Enterprise,"
not that the ship won't be in it or the crew.

He's famous for half-truths and outright lies when it comes to press statements about Trek.

He once promised that Enterprise would not require ANYONE to have seen ANY former Trek series or movies and yet still fully understand and appreciate it - and thereby EXPAND the Trek fanbase.

Well, that promise didn't even last until EPISODE TWO!!!
The Temporal Cold War plotline being a lame way to use TONS of the same artistic styling and plot twists he used in all the post TOS series he was involved in.

Totally convoluting Enterprise and making it about a boring, uptight, stick-up-their-butts bureaucratic Federation of the Future instead of being about any kind of true "history" of the Federation.

Enterprise is all about whether the Future Dweebs' Federation of the Future survives, not about any trailblazing pioneers.

In fact Enterprise tells us that the Federation that preceeded TOS wasn't built by pioneers at all! It was built by people being led around, watched over, and constantly both helped and interfered with by the Big Brother Federation of the future!!!

It is MUCH WORSE then the fact that Enterprise as a series has no timeline continuity and is not set entirely in the past and is therefore not a pre-quel at all.

Enterprise has told us that the fly-by-the-seat-of-their-pants, pioneering heroes of the early Federation were WAY LESS heroic then we thought they were.

It's DIMINISHED not DEEPENED the importance of the history of the early Federation,

Enterprise has perhaps irrepairably damaged the importance of the Pre-TOS era, and it was totally un-necessary!

B&B did all the time-hoping nonsense so that they could plug in their sterile, boring, politically correct and uptight Federation of the post-TOS era they had showed us time and time again in their other series.

I wish they would just give the whole "franchise" a rest.

I wish they would just give the whole "franchise" a rest.

If Paramount is not going to take control of it from B&B and turn it over to a more talented team, I'd have to agree...

They are just driving it into the ground and with the "Prequel" series diminishing the memories of TOS and other earlier series.

It's as if they took I great song I've loved since I was a kid and ruined it by turning it into a REALLY BAD VIDEO!

In fact Enterprise tells us that the Federation that preceeded TOS wasn't built by pioneers at all! It was built by people being led around, watched over, and constantly both helped and interfered with by the Big Brother Federation of the future!!!


Careful, some research guy at Paramount will dig up QUESTOR TAPES and use that as GR-sanctioned justification for 'humanity being aided by an outside agency' to build support for this point of view!

Actually the only character in QUESTOR I really admired was the antagonist, since he espoused my own view of not wanting to be dependent on such an outside agent for salvation, and he really walked the walk too, sacrificing his life in the process. Even though most folks see actor John Vernon as Dean Wormer from ANIMAL HOUSE or as a prison warden in various chickflicks, I always remember him from QUESTOR ... you can tell that was a character Gene Coon took care with in writing (or rewriting.) Damn I wish that flick was on video somewhere.