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DWBryan 06-26-2004, 12:31 AM Looking for a Championship race for 1/18th scale & a Track doing it?
I have one over here in LaGrange IN, its a 240ft (center line 1 lap) banked concrete called Schoolyard Speedway.
It has been compaired by 1/8th & 1/10th scale drivers and nicknamed Little darlington, but the 1/18th scale drivers call it super Daytona.
We are hosting the 1/18th scale concrete oval Indiana state championship race.
Stock & Mod!
But a driver wouldnt have to live in Indiana to race this race. ;)
So far for 3 weeks ina row 1/18th scale RC's have been the largest turnout.
Check out our site and info at www.rcspeedway.net (http://www.rcspeedway.net/) and think about it,
also I would welcome suggestions based on what I have described..Tech bench check points and such.
I know about the Buds (BRP) RC's but other manufacturers 1/18th scale out of box gearing/motors and ect I need to learn before Sept so they can be properly checked.
Mod is MOD and open, but stock (due to the track size) needs a little more margin over out of box to make it fair with no cheating or enhancements that other makes of 1/18th scale RC drivers may try so as to get a edge over the limits of modifications to compeat with a lesser designed RC.
Example: The micro rs4 has done quite poorly compaired to the Buds design at every race I have ever seen.
I really dont know what the owners of them can do and still call it stock.. and this race is 1/18th scale and not just a single companys rc race.
Losi makes a rather neet truck but again they do poorly here and not a even match at all.
Its hard to tell owners of the weaker designed RC's that this type is all that is alowed or you can do this to this and that will make it able to keep up and still call it a stock.
Well this about it and let me know your opinions and suggestions, its apreciated.
1/18th can big league also in my book. ;)
nickcacc 06-26-2004, 07:18 AM Just like in 1/10th scale where you have various classes, why not run 2 wheel drive, 4 wheel drive and trucks as separate classes within the 1/18th scale championship? Mod open can still be anything but stock could be those individual classes.
DWBryan 06-26-2004, 11:29 AM That is the plan for next year or even this one if others come and get it started... so far there is only 2 trucks and 2 4wd drivers... watching 2 rc's in a race is like watching paint dry... and to race with just 1 other out there is like fishing with nothing biteing.
I know the classes will grow in time, if nothing else the 1/18th scale racing is the more cost frendly since a driver dont have to have a lot of fancy equip, to compeat & with all other classes the entery fee is $10 as to where here its a single $5 bill.
Trophy races or championship runs usually have a $15 to $30 entery fee, as with 1/18th here its just $10 so the costs of running them is less out of pocket expences.
I feel in a latter date we can more easyly split them up into a more proper class schedual as they grow.
DWBryan 06-27-2004, 11:56 PM This up comming weekend is as you know the 4th of July.
We run what we call the 500 every year, and this year will be the 1st time out for the 1/18th scale.
Its a 110 lap event.. the Nitro's have to run it non stop using the pit road/re-fueling but the "Electro" Rc cars do it with the heats added as a total.
Example: This last saturday I hit 30 laps in 4 min... so if that where done in all 3 heats then 90 laps of the 110 would be compleat leaving just the Feature/Main to run to get to the 110 laps.
The Heats are 4 min and the Feature/Main is not timed and dont stop untill we have 1st, 2nd & 3rd done. :)
Its easy and a blast!! Entery is the ususal $5 entery and EVERYONE takes home somthing, 1st 2nd and 3rd get a bit more.
Anyone interested? Saturday July 3rd is the day and it starts at 4pm for the 1/18th scale.. the rain date is the 10th.
DWBryan 06-28-2004, 12:05 AM Oooops make that 4:30pm
DWBryan 07-04-2004, 02:55 AM We got rianed out after the 1st round.. so we called it done... and doing it again on the 10th (NEXT Saturday) All classes start at 5pm.
here is the 1st ones results.
Stock Electro 1/18th
DRIVER -T Laps- Best Lap -Place
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Tim Waaso - 30 - 8.00 - 1st
Dave Bryan - 30 - 8.13 - 2nd
Travis Harlan 27 - 8.54 - 3rd
Brandon Greer 19 - 9.00 - 4th
Pat Lowe ---DNF ---(tie) -----5th
Andy Harlan -DNF ---(tie) -----5th
We didnt get to the 110 laps but we got of 1 round and had fun. ;)
BudBartos 07-04-2004, 09:59 AM Wow Tim !!! Good job. Dave we don't have any Sunday events, sorry.
Keep us up to date on your big race just don't have it on Sept 18th that way maybe some from this way will make it :)
wazzer 07-04-2004, 07:01 PM Thanks Bud, School Yard is about twice as big as Da Track and banked. I also ran the sprinter, with the new pro tweak spring setup. It likes those long straights!
DWBryan 07-04-2004, 11:51 PM Yea we had a good time, would have been better if the weather would have worked with us... Wazzer showed how it was done getting right through the traffic. :)
Itsd more fun with a larger field of drivers... on the ol carpet (24x60) before I sold it we had a 10 car lineup.. it seemed crouded but was fun... a 10 car lineup out here provided room and a good line will provide drafting. heheheh Just like Taladaga or Daytona.
I have 38 transponders.. wish I could get a field of 20 out there... that would be a real challange... but need somthing that makes it count #11 - 20, All mine are from 1 to 10.
That Sprinter looked prety awsome... I bet ya get some BSR Reds on it it would be a rocket, I have just started looking for some L F Reds to put on the rear of my Funones Big Block... the Losi F streets on the rear provide good traction but hop too much to make the curves without loosing it. But caps.. I think that'll work and espcially with the rear setup you have on that one.
And I have been thinking maybe having the IN, State champ run eather early saturday the 11th or on sunday the 12th ??? not set in concrete yet.. but I'll get the imput from drivers as to waht day is best for them... some want it under the lights at night... and we can do that even ona friday... others want it in the eve so the heat from the sun is not as intense.. Im game for what the majority desides. ;)
DWBryan 07-07-2004, 11:36 PM So far saturday the 11th is being most favored... I ordered the 3ft trophy today from our local trophy shop... when its custom built for the occasion I'll snap a pic of it and post in on my web site.
www.rcspeedway.net
How about a practice/club race Friday night.... Then the big Saturday. Then the guys coming over from Ohio can get some track time.
DWBryan 07-09-2004, 03:19 PM Sounds good... this track has always been FREE practice... and we have had guys camp out here before, threre are motels for the ones that want to have more than just a tent and a sleeping bag, But we have a place for a campfire and have had motorhomes even stay for a couple of days.
I have a older Schoolbus we have talked about re-working for guys to camp in... I have most of the stuff needed to set it up pretty decent... others would rather just be under the stars. ;)
DWBryan 07-11-2004, 05:53 AM Here are the results from the 2nd 500 race.
Outlaw 1/18th Stock 3 rounds
----Driver ----- Laps - Best L Time - Place
Dave Bryan ---- 90 ---- 7.83 - (1st) but I dont count myself for awards.
Ed Curtis ------ 85 ---- 8.37 - 1st
Andy Harlan ----78 ---- 8.12 - 2nd
Phil Wright -DNF-------- 8.67 - 3rd
Brandon Greer DNF ----- 9.00 - 4th
Pat Lowe DNR x x
Was hoping for more to arive but at the start is looked like rain.
BUT we diidnt get a drop and had some fun. ;)
DWBryan 07-17-2004, 01:14 AM We have set the date for the state championship race to be done one Sept, 11 starting at 4:00PM
Somthing better to remember than the destruction of the towers for that date. :)
Micro_Racer 07-19-2004, 05:04 AM Do you have the hotel info for us Ohio guys? Please email them to michael.elwood@adelphia.net. Would we need to bring pit tables, chairs ect? what about power? Do you have to pre-register? Sept. 11th is looking good! Friday night practice, Saturday racing....
WARBIRD 07-19-2004, 06:28 PM Swamp thing: on the yahoo map it's a 5 hr trip from the grove, you ready for
another road trip????????
DWBryan 07-21-2004, 10:47 PM We have all the tables you will need as well as a place to plugin.. bring a extension cord... there are 15 outlets per pole and they have the tables lined up to them... the farthest table from a resept is around 10ft.
There are 4 motels here in town and usually always have open and ready rooms.
But you are welcome to camp out here also.. and that is FREE. ;)
DWBryan 07-27-2004, 01:04 AM Drivers interested in getting a motel room or making a reservation can call:
Budget Motel - 260/463-3555
Econo Motel - 260/463-8881
They are the closest to me here, but there are more... a total of 4 more within 15 miles.
swamp thing 07-27-2004, 10:40 PM Well warbird we did 8 hrs to PA so 5 hrs will be a walk in the park. It dose not matter how long it takes to get there. We know that it will be FUN.
Micro_Racer 07-29-2004, 08:25 AM Who is going? I will go!!! I plan on going Friday to get some practice in...
DWBryan 08-03-2004, 12:08 AM I'll have the transponder system all charged and booted up for you. ;)
Fastest lap time so far is 7.67 and most laps in 4 min is 31.
Micro_Racer 08-05-2004, 03:13 PM Where are the rules for mod...I can't find them on the web site, I only see stock. So far it looks like 4 or 5 of us will be at the track Sept. 10th and then the 11th for the race.........
DWBryan 08-06-2004, 01:18 AM Ahhh, Hmmm I thought I put it there, but ???
I'll get a look, but so sum it up,, mod is mod and this year is outlaw 2004 here so if yu can handle it go for it. :)
I just didint get mine to handle as a mod and the nitro BRP we built is toooooo much to handle also.. but we try.
Stock is layed out to a simple format and so far it has worked out pretty good... the Funones and sc-18 & oval outlaws have been running together and no one knows the outcome untill its over... almost a diferent winner each race... and thatsa COOL. ;)
Hmmm I seen a discussion where some mentioned a dyno for the brps cars?? is that the motor anilizing dyno that bud use to sell?? I have 1 and never learned to use it.
Micro_Racer 08-06-2004, 07:27 AM OK on the MOD, we have a few "one of a kind" mods and were not sure if you would run them! As far as stock goes, I see you can use a 10 tooth pinion, but what about spur? I have 56, 52, 48, and 45 tooth.....can I only use the 52?
DWBryan 08-10-2004, 08:44 PM Im running the 10t pinion and 45t spur myself on the SC-18 and a 9t-45 on my Funones... 1 dont seem to out perform the other and is a fast as any that has been here sooooooo Farrrrr. :)
The MOD is interesting but we havent had many try... the speed is awsome but handling and setup has been a challange... tryed losi mini T tires & wheels.. good grip but bounces bad... foams is spinout excitement, caping them... we peel em back and crash... Hmmm with the speed 300 1/2 - 3/4 throddle is ben the best we have done.
BUT would love to see what it takes to get the trigger set to FULL SPEED AHEAD. ;)
Sounds like fun. What's the hot tire for stock SC18s?
DWBryan 08-16-2004, 12:36 AM Well Im running a green on the RF, a blue on the LF and the rears are orange.
Some are blue on the Rear and green on the front and a couple are ornage in the rear and blue on the front.
All in all the harder foamie is providing higher bite and the softer is looser.
Soooo ya have to try a combo and see what does the best for ya. but the most are running a harder in the rear.... a hard on the front is a spinout easly done.
Thanks for the info :thumbsup:
DWBryan 08-24-2004, 01:16 AM I got a call today asking if I was being serious about the tire setup.
Hmmm YEP its true, I personaly run a soft brp green on the LF and a box stock blue on the RF... and I get the best results with orange on the rear... I got the record of 31 laps in a 4 min run with that tire setup.. I think I had a blue spring on the RF and a orange on the LF, blue box stock on the motor pod.
Driver that have a 10t pinion can use it... but 10t is a high as you can go... 1 driver here has a 44t spur that bud use to carry running with a 10t pinion and he does pretty good, keeps up with me running a stock 45t with a 10t pinion... he got a 30 lap run.
So far I dont have any mods running... we cant get a setup that works but I'll have a trophy ready for that class as well.
We had a m18 xray run with us last saturday.. he did pretty well, I was impressed, we are running the 5 week point race a little diferent but its cool.
We run 4 races, 4 min each, throw out the worst run and total the best 3 together... I got 88 laps in the end and he got 86... pretty close racing.
I was going to have a short drivers meeting before we get started on the 11th to see what the majority want to do... 3 qualifyers, droping 1 and 5 min main for the ball of wax,,,, or do it like we are doing the point run... totaling the best 3 of the 4 races.
Also to see if we want the races to be 4, 5, or 6 min each.... we have run up to 10 min out there but the motors was HOT HOT HOT and 1 got smoked.
The track is 240ft around the center so it has been measured out running the lower line is 208ft.
wazzer 08-25-2004, 09:21 PM In my only outing in July, I ran "Da Track" setup on my SC-18, hard orange fronts and long wear green on the rear, stock orange springs, and a 9 pinion, 48 spur combo and did 30 laps. So I know that would at least get you in the ballpark. I did have to dial out almost all of the steering, the banked turns will let you do that. If not, the slightest over correction on the wheel results in a spinout.
DW has a whole lot more time on the track than I do, so next time out I'm gonna try his tire set up. See if it will get me in that 31 lap range.
DWBryan 08-26-2004, 01:41 AM Yup it it works!! yea I have to dial out some stearing on my track also... the track is 55ft wide so the curves are WIDE sweepers for the 1/18th scale.
I tryed orange on the front on bolth sides today and they worked well also.. I was running a blue spring on the RF and a orange on the LF... ddint know if the orange would provide less wear on the RF or not... but it handled just as good.
Green is the softest and I run it on the RF and I get at the MOST 3 weeks out of it, and thats with minimal practice.
Do you run tire traction there??
WARBIRD 08-26-2004, 07:19 PM wazzer, are you still planning on Advance on labor day weekend?
DWBryan 08-26-2004, 11:10 PM nope we run em dry... Hmm 1 guy tryed paragon FXII and was slip sliding away... dry seems to work the best... we have used the air compressor to clean em.. or use a compound to clean the tires, but dry em as well as we can befor we run em.
BudBartos 08-27-2004, 09:20 AM Is tire traction allowed???
wazzer 08-27-2004, 09:17 PM Warbird, I won't be doing Advance over Labor Day. Plan on doing Indiana Concrete Oval race and then the next week at BRP. Two in a row is pressing the limits with the little woman, ya know.
DWBryan 08-28-2004, 01:35 AM Yea I can get it around the track with the harder compounds on the front.. but it sure seems more touchy. the softer on the RF made it a lot more forgiving for a smoother turn.
It has been asked how many classes are racing that day. Im letting Nitro Trucks and Electro Trucks race, BUT 1/18th has priority!
When 1/18th is ready they race.... Example say we have 20 1/18th scales, & 10 nitro trucks & 5 electro trucks... 1/18th will be 1st up 10 & 10 then the others but say electro truck is next but the 1/18th is also... 1/18th will race and after them the Electro trucks can get one in and so on.
This will let the 1/18th do it all before the night gets too long for long haul drivers.
With 20 enterys we can be done in 2 to 2 1/2 hrs.. racing 4 races per driver entered.
I REALLY had a good time when I drove all the way to Acron.. but 2 am in the morining was a rough drive home ( especially since it was close to a blizzard) LOL
So I figured this way would be best for the 1/18th scale drivers.
Hay Wazzer.. we got rained out after the 1st round that day didnt we? cant remember... must be geting old.
wazzer 08-28-2004, 09:34 AM DW, yes, we got rained out after the 1st round. That was the weekend one of the Schoolyard 500.
DWBryan 08-30-2004, 01:50 AM Ahhh yep now I remember.. it did rain after the 1st round so I called it and passed out what I had, we re ran the race the next week and got all 4 round that time, was wishin you where there.. but it was a long drive for a rainy day the 1st time. hehe
Bud asked is traction allowed? Hmmm well ok I guess it is if you can get it! heheh
( Speed Secret ) File down (just a little-verry little) the back of the trigger for throddle on the handset/transmitter so you can squeeze it just that little bit more!
And Sticky HONEY will not let you slide!!
(((( NOT REALLY - Just a joke about the filing))))
But the Honey??? Hmmm never really tryed it. ;)
Ohh Bud them dar tirez ya sended me are GREAT!!!!! I LOVE EM.. gained another 10 MPH in turn 4 IM GETTING MORE!!! MANY MORE!! GET READY for the order!! How many do ya have????
BudBartos 08-31-2004, 09:19 PM Looks like SG1, Micro racer and Myself will be making the trip out west for the big event :thumbsup:
Looks like SG1, Micro racer and Myself will be making the trip out west for the big event :thumbsup:Talk about heavy hitters! I'll have to show up just so they realize not all Ohioans are good drivers! Wil won't be making it, though.
squeeker138 09-01-2004, 06:19 PM ONLY 10 days left till the Indiana Brp oval nationals. Can't wait to see all of you
Patrick
DWBryan 09-01-2004, 11:03 PM I think there are a couple comming from Michigan as well.
Here is a list of some of the driver that are going to run from around here so far.
David Bryan, Ed Curtis, Phil Wright, Andy Harlan, Pat Lowe, Brandon Greer,
John Cummins, Jim Callahan, Travis Harlan, Rick Stewart, & Brian Deel
And some more that may make it are,
Tom Barth, Tim Barth, Randy Williams, John Shelton, & Brad Fabin.
Awards will be for 1st, 2nd, & 3rd for each stock and mod class plus somthing for everyone else that races. I think we are going to have some fun for sure... lets hope the weather dont mess it up.
The rain date is set for 25th.
DWBryan 09-06-2004, 12:01 AM The hurican in FL can keep away!! I rem we had T-Storms just a couple of days after the last one... so far the weather is predicted to be good. :)
DWBryan 07-27-2005, 10:21 PM Well ist 2005 so its another year for BIG League racing!!! :)
I had a couple of questions reguarding the Indiana 18th state champ race... we are holding it on Sept 17th starting at 4pm.
The only classes racing that day are Outlaw stock 18th scale cars and Outlaw Stock 18th scale trucks as well as the Outlaw nitro trucks.
What I call Outlaw stock is example BRP must have the parma motors that Bud sells.. you can run any body that is 18th scale... you must have only 6 cell packs and up to a 10t pinion with a 45t spur.
18th scale Outlaw stock trucks the motor (Example the RC18T) comes with the 370... this is the out of box stock motor you can run.... again 6 cell pack and up to a 15t pinion and 55t spur... but any 18th scale body.
You can run bearings or any other hopup availible for your car/truck... any speed controller.
Entry fee to race is $10 for the 1st RC and $5 for each other class.
Only we will run 10 at a time max feild, 3 qualifyers of 5 min and the top 10 only will race the 6 min Feature for trucks and the cars will run a 10 min Feature.
Trophys will be issued to 1st 2nd and 3rd place... but everyone will get somthing.
Sooooo Stock 18th scale cars such as the BRP, Xray and others will race together and must have the manufacturers stock motor and pinion/spur is needed (better brushes are ok)
18th scale trucks the same rules apply... Exaple Losi miniT and RC18T will race together and only with the manufacturers stock motors.
Outlaw Nitro Truck is a run what you bring.. BUT fuel can only be up to 30% nitro and must run a 10th scale body.
The max feild will be 8 at a time for 3 5 min heats and only the top 8 will race the 20 min Feature.
No other class will be excepted the day of the championships.
Hope to see ya.
Micro_Racer 07-28-2005, 12:41 PM Unfortunitly, the Cleveland BRP Crew can not make the 17th....we have the last BRP race on that day...with trophys...sorry would have liked to defend the second place trophy!
DWBryan 07-31-2005, 03:09 AM Well hate to see ya not have the chance for this years race so we moved the date. ;)
The 18th scale & Outlaw Nitro Truck Oval State Championship Race will be held SEPT 24th at 4pm
There was a couple of questions reguarding the Indiana 18th state champ race.
The only classes racing that day are Outlaw stock 18th scale cars and Outlaw Stock 18th scale trucks as well as the Outlaw nitro trucks. What I call Outlaw stock is example BRP must have the parma motors that Bud sells.. you can run any body that is 18th scale... you must have only 6 cell packs and up to a 10t pinion with a 45t spur. 18th scale Outlaw stock trucks the motor (Example the RC18T) comes with the 370... this is the out of box stock motor you can run.... again 6 cell pack and up to a 15t pinion and 55t spur... but any 18th scale body. You can run bearings or any other hopup availible for your car/truck... any speed controller. Entry fee to race is $10 for the 1st RC and $5 for each other class. Only we will run 10 at a time max feild, 3 qualifyers of 5 min and the top 10 only will race the 6 min Feature for trucks and the cars will run a 10 min Feature. Trophys will be issued to 1st 2nd and 3rd place... but everyone will get somthing. Sooooo Stock 18th scale cars such as the BRP, Xray and others will race together and must have the manufacturers stock motor and pinion/spur is needed (better brushes are ok) 18th scale trucks the same rules apply... Exaple Losi miniT and RC18T will race together and only with the manufacturers stock motors. Outlaw Nitro Truck is a run what you bring.. BUT fuel can only be up to 30% nitro and must run a 10th scale body. The max feild will be 8 at a time for 3 5 min heats and ONLY the top 8 will race the 20 min Feature. No other class will be excepted the day of the championships. Hope to see ya.
wazzer 08-01-2005, 12:07 PM Dave, what about 18th mod?
I know there would be a few of us willing to run this class.
Micro_Racer 08-01-2005, 12:12 PM Yes I have a brushless BRP, that I would love to drop on that oval!
BudBartos 08-01-2005, 02:44 PM Mod would be cool !!!
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