Sorry Micro, I'd have to say limit it to brushed motors only. Brushless would have to be a class by itself.

Here is a idea how about Pro Stock or just stock !!!!

Yea we can have the Pro Stock and Stock class as a split.
And as far as mod we just havent had any showng up here this summer to race except for 1 night and that was 2 guys that truned less laps and less race time as stock.

Dave>> Looks like maybe 6 coming that would like to race pro Stock so if it is OK with You I will rework the trophys. Some of us may also run stock too and trucks!!!

Sounds like a winner, a FUN FUN Day is in the making. ;)

i would be interested in coming since i have 2 mini t and 1 rc18t...but i have no stock motors only mamba's and baja's in mine.so what is the PRO stock?and what about the ones that want to run mod?could we run for fun?

Yoke, I'll ask Dave tommorrow when I go racing. See you soon.

Ok Cleveland area BRP guys!!! Looks like We will just be going to schoolyard for Sat only. Think We will leave about 9:30. Rain or shine :)
I'm going to run stock and Pro Stock.

Are we meeting at BRP World Headquarters?

We can discuse at the next race :thumbsup:

Looks like the lineup of the racing day will Be, Stock & Prostock for the Nascar (BRP, X ray, Ect car) and Stock for the trucks (rc18t , Ect) and Outlaw Nitro Trucks.

The day is getting closer, The trophys arived today.
As far as I know there will be 12 Outlaw Nitro Trucks, 9 18th scale nascars, 5 Prostock nascars, and 7 18t trucks.
We will be racing 4 classes of racing on the 24th and no others that day.. so it should go well and provide each class time enough to work on the RC and still get done before it gets late.

same rules as last year?

Yea pretty much, I dont have a schedulaed class for mod BRP/car layed out.. but I figured if enough showed up I guess we would have a mod race, But all in all the same rules... stock is a out of box stock ( hand picked wather diped motor is still stock) but pro stock is pro stock and wont run with box stock... 6 cells only and 2/3rd cell is fine, AA is still ok, but ( will be slower).
2wd and 4wd (out of box) stock trucks will run together and same thing on the batts apply, I hear Losi miniT has up to 16t pinion, so they can run that.. but the 18T (TA) has only up to a 15t and 55t spur, that is excepted with no problems, but a 16 on it will get that driver disqualifyed. Tires for the trucks can be what you run, but NO touring car tires.. they didnt come that way.. but Bud makes a leagle set of foams that work great... rubber or foams are bolth working well.
Speed controller is your choice in any rc as well as servo choice is open... any manufatured chassis hopup is still leagle... home made chassis is fine as long as they are the same overall size as the origional. cnat be longer or wider.
Any 18th scale body is leagle.... example is a edm body they make for losi miniT is still a 18th scale body.. but no 12th scale bodys unless they are no bigger than that big edm that works like a well designed parashoot. LOL
The only class that is total outlaw is nitro trucks... anythng goes as long as they are 10th scale open wheel running a 2.2 STD wheel.
18th scale trucks will run 3 qualifyers/eliminators of 5 min totaling the laps of the best 2 races and the top 10 will run a 6min feature for the gold.
Cars will also run it the same way except the 3 races will be 6 min and a 10 min feature for the top 10.
Nitro trucks will run the same way only 5 min heats and a 20min feature for the top 8.
Other classes will be discussed trackside before we start.
I never seen a prostock and its running time and so on. ;)

Dave

since most coming to run Pro stock from here about 8 racers at this time. And since I'm bringing the trophies!! Can we run standard 5 min qualifing 2 or 3 rounds and then a 10 min main for the win. Some are going to run stock also and your combined racing would be fine for that. Sound OK?

Sounds just fine to me.
The stock can do the 10 min feature also... I know we have the runtime for it however with the stock class ( dout there will be over 10) will run the top 10 together after droping 1 of the 3 heats and totaling the best 2.. or if there is only 10 or less then everyone in the class will run the feature 10 min... BUT we will total the races droping the worst run and adding the best 3 to get the most laps for the night will get 1st and so on dependiing on the laps they get in the race... ( stock only)
Some like haveing the total outcome based on just 1 race (main) and others dont.. feeling like the heats dont count for anything except tuning.... so doing it this way we can try to please most drivers that race that day and they can pick the way they want to run the race by the class they enter.

dave is there any way we can get Elctro Gearbox Truck too run this same night? i know a few would like to see it happen we dont want Trophys just a place to race that saterday night!!

What pinion is leagal for the stock BRP's 10 or the 11 made many moons ago that only a selected few still have. Also, will there be "tech" after each heat and the mains?

Last I talked with dave it was the 10 tooth. I also sugested 45 spur that we use now since it is easy to tech but dave mentioned some are still running fun wons with the big tires. that would be a huge roll out advantage. Need to keep it simple and fun :)
We have a good size group coming from Ohio!! I mean numbers not size guy's.

There is just one guy that is/was? running the funones tires.. and I was victorius over him more than just once with the small tires... they may have more rool out but also scrub more speed off in the turns? but all in all it dont seem they are a advantage as far as I can see... except in the big blocks... there they seem to be one of choice while we ran them.. but havent had a mod.big block class all this year.
And as far as other classes that day.. we tryed that last year and it made the raceday too long... sorry.
As it is there will be ?? 5 classes... figure a hour per round and 4 rounds adding the 20 min outlaw nitro trucks will make it a 4hr - 4 1/4 day ( thats the goal )
If after the championships are done other classes can race.
We are starting 1 hr earlyer (4pm) instead of the usual 5 and getintng going at 6pm. this one will start at 4pm sharp. and should be done at 8pm having the outlaw nitro trucks as the last race for the champinships.. the otehr classes will finish sooner.

So should I tell the Ohio guys 10/45 for stock??
I will know how many will be coming after our last race next Sat.

Bud- What other gearing options do the "other guys" have that the rest of us can't find at your website or in the hobbyshops?..........lol

Bud- What other gearing options do the "other guys" have that the rest of us can't find at your website or in the hobbyshops?..........lol

If you have a slot car shop near you, you will find pinion gears 7-14. If you are lucky you may find spur gears 42, 43, 45, 46, 48, 52, 55.

You can look on the web:
http://www.ncphobbies.com/

http://www.theslotshop.com/index.html

:roll:

I ran 12/43 last year in stock. the 10/45 would work out OK because you can look at the spur cut down associated and count the pinion easily.

Well then that would explain why you 3 handed us are ass's. We were told 10/45 maxium. We were told we couldn't run anything but Buds products. I want the rules set in stone before raceday. Here it is 2 weeks before the race and we still are deciding the rules.

That was in the rules last year.....all of use ran a 10/45.....feel free to tech my car.

I ran 12/43 last year in stock. the 10/45 would work out OK because you can look at the spur cut down associated and count the pinion easily.


Just going by what Bud himself posted, I didn't make it up.

As a racer it isn't my job to tech cars. If we are having a State Championship I would think it would be the norm to tech each and every racer finishing in the top 3 in heats and mains. I have yet to hear tech of the top 3, just random tech.

Last year it was 10t pinion no mention of spur, but then I don't remember what went on yesterday!! Like I said 10-45 is easy to tech.
If it was brp spur We have sold them in the past but are all out now since the Cox gears were from the 60's.
Dave what is the word solve it now!!!!!!!! I want to tell all that are running stock.

Metal>> Sorry I was thinking of what I ran at classic since they were asking about pinions and spurs. I know I had a 10 on ? spur last year. Guess We will see this year :)

Looks like 7 racers making the trip from out east. :thumbsup:

Make that 8!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave>> I could make a gauge to check pinion and spur size if You would like!
Let Me know.
We will be faster this year.

Techiing as you say will be easy, I have a set of calipers to guage with??
But it should be easy enough to tech em quickly with no problems.
I feel this year if the weather holds out for us we are going to have some fun with the 18th scales... they ahve been few and far between this year and the more on the track there is the better fun there seems to be.. a race with just 2 or 3 is fun but not breath holding excitement like 6 or more. ;)
I ahve a set of calipers to do some tech checks with... but I dont feel there will be any driver just looking for the instant win advantage.. after all if a person has to modify a part just to win they must not be much of a driver or have any confidence in thier skills... just my 2 cents.
I have runa couple that wher faster and they still lost... even matched cars and skill or luck really shows.
Win lose or draw I have fun racing em... and that is the important thing overall to me.. but like anyone else I just want a fair chance and IM sure everone will have that opertunity in this race.
Hope ta see ya there.

OK so stock is 10/45 teched gearing correct???

Yep, just like last year... should be a good gear to run... out of box is 9/45 as far as I know but 10 is avail for the kit from the home company. ;)
Hope we dont get rained out.... the rain date is set for 1st (sat) in oct if it happens.

4 days until it is all decided! The Indianda State Champion will be crowned .

Dave some of the guys want to run personal transponders, does your system use them ??
All Ohio racers We are leaving at 9:00 if your going to be late call.

I wish it did, I had one of the drivers call me and asked about that, no sorry mine is the older AMB-20 and the personals make it go goofy on just some of the personals.. others dont do anything.
I have 30 transponders with my system but can only handle 1 - 10.
18th scale will start at 4pm and nitro truck will start at 5pm... so the 18th will be well underway and finish befor the nitro 20 min race.
And for the 18th scales (Stock) I had posted for the 10 min 4th race... I gether most drivers want to make that a 8 min instead.... so we may just do that... I will get drivers together for the vote befor the 4th race.... rem Pro Stock will run the standard format of 3 qualifyers (5min) and a main (?time) and Std Stock will race 3 races (5min) and the top 10 will go on to the 8 - 10 min Feature.
So far I dont see more than 10 in any class so no one (at this point ) will be elimated.
18th scale stock trucks will also run the 5 min std Stock cars racing format.
To the best of my knowlage at this point there will be 8 trucks?
Somone emailed to know the entery fee's for that day hearing I was going to raise it.. that is not true.. its 10 for the 1st rc and 5 for each other class... and that is all classes a drivers races. Rem multipal classes dont mean ya dont turnmarshal... if your schedualed back to back you will still be covering the next class you dont race in... and if you run em all... you need a sub. ( thats just fair )
And for the out of state drivers, I have aranged a couple of subs for your back to back ( if hapens)
Rain Rain stay away, seen enough on other days.

OK Dave thanks!! I need a sub now :thumbsup:
Yes We are coming rain or shine, however if it rains I will not be able to make it to the rainout day. Don't know if any other Ohio guys will be able to come back.
We had rain like at 5 of our 7 races this summer?? Global warming? Two of the strongest huricanes ever? I think it is the rain forests coming down and China poluting :confused:

So far the prediction is looking like we can get it in... the weatherman has said rain before and not a drop and well others??
But all in all so far it looks decent.. just cloudy and cool.
Yea I know what ya mean about the rain date... here in LaGrange that one is not a real good one eather... there is a local street fair that week every year and every year its rain or snow for the legandary Corn School Fair the 1st week of Oct.... I cant rem too many of the fair days that the weather was nice duriig the fair week.

The Dekalb Co. Free Fall Fair starts on Monday also.

So far the prediction is looking like we can get it in... the weatherman has said rain before and not a drop and well others??
But all in all so far it looks decent.. just cloudy and cool.
Yea I know what ya mean about the rain date... here in LaGrange that one is not a real good one eather... there is a local street fair that week every year and every year its rain or snow for the legandary Corn School Fair the 1st week of Oct.... I cant rem too many of the fair days that the weather was nice duriig the fair week. DW do you have a snack bar or should we pack something?

They had food last year.....good food!

They said they will have track dogs!!!!! Yea baby :) Also if We are all there good and early they will start sooner.

Meeting at 9 AM at Bud's house......

Dave and all at the school yard, Thanks the race was a blast! :thumbsup:

Thanks Guys, it was fun
I wish I could have finished with you all but my reciever fryed :(
But there is always the next time and other places.. This year I thougt I could get mine to keep up in the pace.
Drivers that find somthing ( #1, #3, #4) can you give them to Bud and he can slip em in my next order.. Thanks.... Dont worry it happens.. LOL
At least the anti rain dance worked and no one got wet. and others washed out but had a GREAT time.

Dave>> I have them will all send back today, SORRY !!!!
10/45 and I was two laps faster guess I did run 10/45 last year:)

Thanks Guys, it was fun
I wish I could have finished with you all but my reciever fryed :(
But there is always the next time and other places.. This year I thougt I could get mine to keep up in the pace.
Drivers that find somthing ( #1, #3, #4) can you give them to Bud and he can slip em in my next order.. Thanks.... Dont worry it happens.. LOL
At least the anti rain dance worked and no one got wet. and others washed out but had a GREAT time.Dave thanks for the good racing and the great hospitality. It was well worth the drive over. Hope to see you guys at Classic this fall.

Dave- check the results on the Nitro Trucks........looks like the laps are a exact copy of the 1/18th scale trucks.

Yea I need to look at that, I was real tired when I was working on it.... I'll get it right asap.
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I do plan on making it to OH to mix it up with you guys again... I have tryed soooooo hard to get this fine class of racing over here and well.... it just goes in spurts... Having a feild of 9 was awsome racing.... I get more out of it when there are more on the track.. just racing 2 guys on mine is fun.... But over 6 is spellbinding and when there is that many or more that can hold the car down and have some speed... well that makes me forget to breath & my excitment meter blows off the dial. ;)
Thank You guys verrrry much for the praise of my track... I put everything I had into building it for the last 5 years, and up untill the last 2 years I had to do it alone... but I thank all the drivers who pitched in to enhance what I built to get it where it is today.
I do plan on a LOT of improvments as soon as I can even get a chance to do it.
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I'll be needing a few things so just add em in there for me.
Yea a 10/45 seems to be a great gear combo to run.... You are the master, soooo if you ever put out or based on your knowlage of this place and the best gear setup to run out here and where to get it, let me know and we can have the Schoolyard gear pack for a blurry high speed bolt of lightning stock class.
I need to update the records also on the web site... work work work.