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Bill Johnson
09-18-2006, 07:07 PM
And Maximus Raceway in York Maine......

schase427
09-24-2006, 09:46 PM
BSR'S TQ and WIN in 19t and 4300 brushless at platinum hobbies last night by SCOTT CHASE JR..Keep up THE GREAT WORK GUYS.

LATER SCOTT CHASE SR.

Mr.fastman
09-24-2006, 11:22 PM
BSR TQ, Wins and new Track Record at Marshall's. Thanks for the great tires!

Doug P

MIKE VALENTINE
09-25-2006, 10:21 AM
BSR again ran awsome at Maximus raceway. TQ, TR, and WIN in 19 turn. BSR tires finished 1,2,3 in stock and 1,2,4 in 19 turn. Thanks again John & Kevin for making such good tires.

jflack
10-01-2006, 09:25 PM
At the Roar Region 6 Paved oval championship at Small Cars Unlimited Jackson, Ms, I TQed and won 4 cell 19 turn oval... Sorry it wasn't on Foams.....Yes, BSR Cap tires smoked the field.....Last cap race on the year for me, greeneville in a couple of weeks to get ready for the OvalMasters....Thanks John for great tires CAPS and Foams!!!!

schase427
10-02-2006, 08:05 AM
Scott Chase JR. TQ win and new track record in 19t at platinum hobbies on BSR rubber sat. night on second week out with his new le lightning powered by ohp cells and motors.Thanks again guys for the great products and second to none cust.service.

later Scott Chase Sr.

IndyRC_Racer
10-03-2006, 01:58 PM
This may have been asked before, but what is the simplest choice of tires for 4300 brushless. Its not that I'm on a budget, I just don't want to invest hundreds of dollars on tires to have a different compound on each corner. Would a simple pink or xx-pink rear with pink LF and purple RF be an okay starting point - it will be flat carpet oval.

kevjoh
10-03-2006, 02:05 PM
Thats a good starting point. Also good would
be Whites and Rfrt Black.
Kevin Joh.

Kenwood
10-03-2006, 02:06 PM
Probably not the best choice to run pinks and purples.. I have been running 3 whites and a black RF.. occasionally I put a gray LF on or a white/gray RR.. But if you were mainly interested in keeping it simple 3 whites and a black works at most flat tracks Ive run on with my 4300..

IndyRC_Racer
10-03-2006, 02:25 PM
Kenwood, why not pinks/purples? Is it due to lack of grip or too much grip? Is it due to natural rubber vs. foam compounds?

Kenwood
10-03-2006, 02:48 PM
Seems like about the third minute of the race they are too stuck in 4300.. I went faster on the white/black combo>>>all other things being equal.. I tried both 2 weeks ago just out of being cheap(Had bunch of pinks and purples) and car was slower.. I just dont think you need that much bite for 4300..

THE BAT
10-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Pinks and purples have worked well for myself in 19t and mod even at a national level event.But you can't just swap from whites,grays and blacks to pinks and purples you have to change your setup.

Kenwood
10-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Mod I run them..but in 4300 reguardless of setup the whites and grays were faster. My previous post might have been misleading... I dont claim to know why other than they seemed to get stickier as the run goes on and they get heat in them... I noticed a diff in 4300 and 19t and have been faster since switching to white/gray family...

IndyRC_Racer
10-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Pinks/Purples might work better for me since I'm just starting in 4-cell 4300. I'd rather start with a car that is a bit on the tight side and loosen it up through setup than the other way around. I realize that you can only go so far with any setup/tire combo, so the White/Black combo may be faster. I just want to start conservative. Plus I've noticed that there are now xx-Pink rears and Purple/Orange fronts. Might be able to tune that way as well.

Thanks for the help.

THE BAT
10-03-2006, 03:31 PM
I also found that cleaning the pinks and purples with my motor spray between rounds helps as well.

NHOvalRacer
10-03-2006, 05:18 PM
I agree Mark, I do that with all my tires after each round, i dont like the tires glazing or "gumming up" so I also use motor spray. :)

Mr.fastman
10-10-2006, 07:35 PM
Just want to say thanks for the great tires. Qualified 2nd at the NEOT race at Marshall's this weekend and TQ'ed and won the ORL race there the next day. I had to change R.S. tires because of wear and the new ones worked exactly like the tires that came off, BSR tires are the most consistent tires I've ever used. Thanks again for the great tires John.


Doug P

microman14
10-11-2006, 07:01 AM
is it ok to run a white front in place of a green is there any difference??

MIKE VALENTINE
10-11-2006, 08:39 AM
it's ok to run the white front. It will provide a little more bite. The down side is it won't wear the same as the right front tire in most cases, so you will be fighting tire wear all day. Meaning the right front will wear more each run and you will have to adjust, to keep the car running the same each race. Where the green wears alot closer, and won't be so much of a hassle.

Razoo
10-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Whats a good tire compound to use on these tires? I've read where 1 guy claims that Jack the Gripper eats away the glue. Anyone else have the same problem?

J-Dub Racing
10-11-2006, 09:21 AM
Microman14-

So that is a tuff track to get hooked up on. When I was running my best, I was running BSR's of course. RF - Black, LF - Green, RR - White, LR - Pearl. You may need to true them up after 2 runs. I noticed getting even tire wear was almost impossible when you are running 3.0's, and 3.1's :thumbsup: If you need any help with setup, just let me know.
Joel White
VooDoo Cells, Beefy Products

microman14
10-11-2006, 12:31 PM
thanks Joel that track is a monster on them right side tires. if racing gets any faster might go throught a set a day almost thanks for the help guys..

John Foister
10-11-2006, 02:48 PM
Whats a good tire compound to use on these tires? I've read where 1 guy claims that Jack the Gripper eats away the glue. Anyone else have the same problem?

We have used about every thing out there. I would suggest using whatever the popular compound is at the track you are racing.

John Foister
10-11-2006, 02:49 PM
And great job Doug. Congradulations.

MIKE VALENTINE
10-11-2006, 03:22 PM
Damn it, I forgot to plug my win at Marshalls. Doug P good run both days, to bad you get so beat up on Saturday.

Razoo
10-11-2006, 04:15 PM
We have used about every thing out there. I would suggest using whatever the popular compound is at the track you are racing.


Thank you.

Mr.fastman
10-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Damn it, I forgot to plug my win at Marshalls. Doug P good run both days, to bad you get so beat up on Saturday.


Thanks Mike - Yea that second heat would have been the one. That was a heck of a run you had in 19T, that car was dialed.


Doug P

Mr.fastman
10-11-2006, 06:54 PM
And great job Doug. Congradulations.


Thanks John - You have the best tires out there.


Razoo - I used Jack the Gripper all weekend, and I've used it before, I've never had a problem.


Doug p

2Groovy4U
10-15-2006, 08:27 PM
BSR Foams tq and finish 1st and 2nd @ the 8th Annual Western Worlds in Tucson, AZ last nite. TQ and 1st Jeff Helms 2nd Raymond McCoy.
John thank you for the great foams.

losi888
10-16-2006, 07:40 PM
What seems to be the best combo of tires for 19T. Are you guys running whites all around with a black right front.

Joe DiGirolamo

barrys
10-16-2006, 08:47 PM
I am assuming a Pearl for left rear for 19 turn and a green left front and a grey right front but welcome other folks perspectives.

Question - pro's and con's for a 'Team Purple' right front as opposed to a black for stock (or 19 turn)?

ericsalvas
10-17-2006, 06:56 AM
losi888...when track bite is up...LF green LR pearl RR white-grey(or white if loose) RF black...if track bite is low...pinks lefts RF purple RR dbl pink(pink if loose)

barrys...in stock...you want the car to be free as possible(free'er in the corner will meen more speed in the straightaway)...a purple will drive good...but you it might hold the car too much...even it could drive like a black..you'll be faster without...for 19t...the faster speed might be ok with it...but...if the track is really tacky you might want to stay away also('cause all the bite is already down on carpet...)

Eric

team BSR

hope this helps

NHOvalRacer
10-23-2006, 09:44 AM
BSR Tires takes TQ A-Main win in Pro Stock and 19T @ Maximus yesterday. My personal best there. John thanks for the great tires!

cole
10-23-2006, 12:09 PM
C"MON hanson

NHOvalRacer
10-23-2006, 12:35 PM
LOL I love the tires brotha..... Cole whats up with you? when you comming to race in Maine with me? if you need a place to crash if it's a weekend event, let me know, as long as your running BSR Tires, you can stay at my house (on the farmer's porch with a blanket) LOL see you soon buddy!

bojo
10-23-2006, 12:38 PM
Steve I run BSR can I stay at your house. LOL. I TQ and won the A main in stock

barrys
10-26-2006, 11:08 AM
having run first 1/12th onroad and now 1/10th (moving from stock to 19 turn) carpet flat oval, I have always heard the term 'free up' for years now.

I guess as I get older I feel less relucant to ask stupid questions.

Talking about the rear tires in specific, what is physically happening differently with rear tires with exotic compounds such as white or pearl as compared to a pink?

Left to my own thoughts, I am assuming 'freeing up' allows the rears to slide slightly (1/4") on a consistent basis versus stick totally, then let loose?

If not this, why wouldn't you always want the softest compound left rear?

In other words, what physically is the downside of the left rear being stickier - other than it isn't 'freed up'

Danny B
10-26-2006, 02:21 PM
having run first 1/12th onroad and now 1/10th (moving from stock to 19 turn) carpet flat oval, I have always heard the term 'free up' for years now.

I guess as I get older I feel less relucant to ask stupid questions.

Talking about the rear tires in specific, what is physically happening differently with rear tires with exotic compounds such as white or pearl as compared to a pink?

Left to my own thoughts, I am assuming 'freeing up' allows the rears to slide slightly (1/4") on a consistent basis versus stick totally, then let loose?

If not this, why wouldn't you always want the softest compound left rear?

In other words, what physically is the downside of the left rear being stickier - other than it isn't 'freed up'

IMO, having a "Free" car is more of a feeling than any handling characteristic. Basically, you want the car to turn without effort. This may be a little silly because we are not inside the cars and there is no way to get the "feel" like you would driving a real car.

The car has to be planted to be free. It's not about barely turning the front wheels or having the rear end skatey. In general, on most tracks you want to turn a 12-14ft radius when you slowly roll the car with the wheels turned all the way to the lock. Don't ever race with more dual rate in the car than you need.

While we are not in the cars, you can "feel" what the car is like by how you have to drive it at the steering wheel. When it's time to start turning you want to gradually steer the car into the corner reaching the lock at the apex, then you want to start coming back to center from the middle-off. That is the biggest thing. if you are "hanging on" to the wheel as you come off the corner you are not going to be fast. Once the car is "into" the suspension in the corner it is the cars job, not so much the driver, to keep turning the remainder of the corner.

The best cars cars I've had at the various races over the years, the car does most of the work. Very little effort is required by me to make the car go where it needs to. When the car does that you can simply concentrate on the line and traffic you don't have to fight the car to keep it in the groove.

I have raced at around 50 different tracks, dozens of "national" caliper races, learned from some of the biggest names in the oval world and still haven't got everything figured out. It just takes time and being luck to get a good tutor.

barrys
10-27-2006, 03:34 PM
But, being an analytical sort of person, what is it that causes a pearl left rear to enable the 'free' feeling versus a pink left rear as an example?

I know that even for the same softness (let's say a 30) different compounds have different size pores/bubbles in them, and that different types of rubber require cleaning the Paragon after a run off more than others.

Does everyone just 'know it when they feel it' or is there a physics-related reason?

What is actually happening differently with the interface to the carpet between exotic versus non-exotic rubber?

MIKE VALENTINE
10-27-2006, 04:17 PM
Friction coefficient

barrys
10-27-2006, 04:21 PM
so pink has too high of a friction co-efficient compared to pearl?

NHOvalRacer
10-30-2006, 10:30 AM
BSR Tires takes:
TQ-A-Main Win Pro Stock @ Maximus
TQ-A-Main Win 19T Fixed Timing @ Maximus
Also New Track Record in 19T Fixed Timing @ Maximus

Or I could say "BSR Sweeps races this weekend" lol Thanks John for the great tires!

omnis85
10-30-2006, 10:46 AM
also ran bsr tires to take track record in sk at k/n this past weekend :thumbsup:

microman14
10-31-2006, 10:50 AM
running a supoer small 77ft flat oval with no bite and we usally run white and grey rears tm's and dohble black black fronts so would that be a peral white and a white and a black and like a grey

MIKE VALENTINE
10-31-2006, 11:07 AM
micro if your track has low bite, you'd be better off with pinks and purples then with whites and greys. Off the tire subject, are you running offset pod and t-plate, if you are go back to the standard pod and t-plate locations. sounds funny but if theirs no bite the car can't transfer weight and will always feel as if their isn't any bite.

microman14
10-31-2006, 11:12 AM
yea im runing offset pod standard t plate. the track is that normal carpet found in shopping centers the blue grayish carpet. have been fighting bite there all the time seems i either cant get it planted or i cant get it to turn in

MIKE VALENTINE
10-31-2006, 11:17 AM
Those types of tracks are tough. I'd try going to standard pod also, and some pinks and a double pink or purple right front. The other thing is don't worry about making a perfect arc in the turns on those types of tracks, just look at lap times.

microman14
10-31-2006, 11:21 AM
ok thanks could you explain to me a lil more about how the pod change will effect it so i know what im doing a lil more. also does the more rubbery compunds provide more bite??

RC5150
11-05-2006, 12:20 PM
BSR tires take tq and win this weekend at the SK shootout at K/N R/C Speedway. Thanks for the great tires!!

PUF19
11-05-2006, 01:01 PM
Also Took 2nd Place SK Shoot K/N R/C Speedway Out, simply AWESOME TIRES!!!!