Beach,
Ran em for a while, switched to another brand, but came back...realized what was up and where the quality was at.

Eric, did you always run BSR's?

Beach - Your on BSR's now aren't you?

Can someone explain the differences in the cap tires? L, S, R, net etc....

Beach - Your on BSR's now aren't you?
NEVER LEFT!! I was there before you Doug! LOL

Quality+Customer Service+PERFORMANCE=JOHNS BSR RACING TIRES!

Can someone explain the differences in the cap tires? L, S, R, net etc....

I am not a cap guy, but last time I ran cap tires, the different letters are for different size tires. Left tires were a little smaller then the S (standered) and the R (right) are a little bigger. Its to help get the stagger correct. Net tires have a kevlar net in them, to keep them from expanding when they get hot, or under high RPM situations. Hope this helps, maybe some other team guys can chime in and provide a little more info, last time I ran caps was in 2000 : )

Dave

I've been around a long time, and have run TRC's, Jaco, former BSR's and now the new "John's BSR" tires. Not a better tire on the planet...ever.
True, round wheels...excellent seams...consistency in compounds from batch to batch...perfect bearing alignment...and a huge selection of dual compounds to fine tune your car to a greater degree... Not to mention the drive that John and Kevin both race competitively, not only put out a product that racers need, but they constantly strive forward and keep refining their product to unbelievable levels.

If there was a title fight for oval tire companies, John's BSR tires would be the "Undisputed Heavyweight Champ...":dude:

agreed master!

I Will Agree With Everything But Perfect Bearing Hole , Those Ar The Only Wheels I Have Ever Had To Use A Reamer On To Get The Bearings To Not Bind!!!!!!!!!! And That Is A Fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick K.

What type of track would the Gray/Silver work best on??
A low, med or high bite carpet track.

RICKK5, your the first person I have heard having a problem with the fit of the front bearings. The worst of the market for being to tight is TRC yellow rims and the worst for being to lose is JACO.

NOZZ1 the grey silver work great on med bite tracks.

I Have Run Bsr For Years Until Recently, I Havent Run To Many Since John Took It Over With The Exception Of Cap Tires But I Have Always Had To Either Ream Them Or Use An Exacto Knife!!!!

rickk5, If you don't mind what tires where you using before?

I Will Agree With Everything But Perfect Bearing Hole , Those Ar The Only Wheels I Have Ever Had To Use A Reamer On To Get The Bearings To Not Bind!!!!!!!!!! And That Is A Fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick K.
NOT BANGIN' YOU DUDE, but you never ran the company with those silly yellow rims!

Rick: Have you tried the tires since John bought BSR? In your post it sounded like you didn't...If not, try them... the bearing housings are fine.
If you are using the 1/8 ID bearings,(for the Wolfe 1/8" axles) the wheels are fine...if you are using the stock Associtaed axles (3/16) I believe they resourced oversized OD bearings to help fix the problem with the loose Jaco wheel bearing housing. If you try to use the oversized OD 3/16 bearings in a BSR wheel that's housing is the correct size, it may be tight. That's an old scenario, but it may be what you experienced...

BEACH: Simple business:First, sell neon yellow wheels that the bearing housing is too tight...just be sure that you also offer and sell a reamer as well. You get more sales this way!!!:roll:

I've been around a long time, and have run TRC's, Jaco, former BSR's and now the new "John's BSR" tires. Not a better tire on the planet...ever.
True, round wheels...excellent seams...consistency in compounds from batch to batch...perfect bearing alignment...and a huge selection of dual compounds to fine tune your car to a greater degree... Not to mention the drive that John and Kevin both race competitively, not only put out a product that racers need, but they constantly strive forward and keep refining their product to unbelievable levels.

If there was a title fight for oval tire companies, John's BSR tires would be the "Undisputed Heavyweight Champ...":dude:

I'll second that Todd - Lots of tire combos, I've never been at the track wishing i had a slightly harder or softer tire with BRS's
Doug P

Ive run both bearing sizes and never had a problem.. Id also say that His RUBBER STAY ON THE RIM.. Unlike some other tires out there...

I really cant say anything bad about the tires. The pricing is good, thee rims are always true, Not to mention Black rims go great with everything.. Which I can not say for some other colored ones out there.

:thumbsup:

Thumbs up to the guys at BSR. I have ran all the tire companies and found that these were the best tire/rims out there. Keep up the great work.
Fireball929
Promatch Racing
BSR Tires

todd, i dont mind at all i am currently running for t.m. racing, i will say that the bearing holes in his wheels require absolutly no maintenance whatsoever, i did run johns cap tires all summer and i do use 3/16 bearings i alway's have for the last fifteen years, perhaps they were still on old stock of wheels??dont know??

rick k.

I'm surprised that Mr. Putnam hasn't mentioned this, but my hats off to BSR for offering mounted dirt oval tires:thumbsup:.....for those who think dirt is for racin' and carpet is for your living room!! :D

BEACH: Simple business:First, sell neon yellow wheels that the bearing housing is too tight...just be sure that you also offer and sell a reamer as well. You get more sales this way!!!:roll:[/QUOTE]

OOPs, silly me! I forgot that same "company" makes those "19" turn motors for BIG EVENTS TOO! :thumbsup:

Talk to you soon, Jim

Rick: I knew there had to be at least one person still running those 3/16 bearings...seriously though, if you haven't tried the 1/8 Wolfe axles, they have a few advantages:
1) ability to shim the wheel in and out on the axle to vary front track width.
2) 1/8 bearings last a ton longer than the 3/16 ones, and are also readily available in ceramics as well.seriously though, BSR stuff is dialed. I would assume the cap tires wheels were as well, (same wheels) unless they were old stock from before he retooled the molds. Not sure.
3) Aluminum lock nuts are superior to nylon nuts for holding the wheels on.
4) 1/8 axles are available in hardened steel or titanium...more durable than the aluminum 3/16.
Just food for thought...
Good luck racing!:thumbsup:

Todd I Have Used 1/8 In The Past And Have Had Horrible Results With Bending And Breaking, Plus They Are Trailing Axles Are They Not?? Or Do They Have On Centers Now?????? Alot Of People Still Use 3/16 On Centers, I Have Never Had Bearing Problems I Use Ceramics Now I Have A Set That I Have Used For Over Two Years. Thanks For The Advice I Appreciate It!!!

Rick K.

Wolfe makes on center 1/8 axles...super tough to bend or break...
Good Luck!

really you're just using Assoc on center steering blocks with wolfe axles.

Wolfe makes on center 1/8 axles...super tough to bend or break...
Good Luck!

I dont know about the tough to bend part.. Ive bent a few in fairly INSUBSTANTIAL mishaps....However if you have the means the lunsford titanium 1/8" axles take about anything you can throw at them.. IMHO with the never front ends being able to slide in, out, back, forth, id rather not have to keep track of a bunch of shims when pulling wheels on and off>>I understand it can be a tuning tool>>>BUT with my front end adjustability I dont need.120 wother of adjustibility in the axle. But maybe thats just me.. :)

Kenwood: Understood..there's something to be said for simplicity. Shimming the tire out on the axle is different than moving the entire suspension arm out. When you shim the wheel out on the axle, you change the width and the scrub radius.
Just another tuning device...

...When you shim the wheel out on the axle, you change the width and the scrub radius.


And the wheel rate..

And the wheel rate..

...and the spring rate...

What size do most guys run there tires at?

What size do most guys run there tires at?


I thought you run down on the rim Mike. LOL

start at 2.20....down to 2.12...

Eric S

team Salvas

BSR sets track record @ Lake City RC Speedway in Plattsburgh in pro and sportsman class. My brother ran 88 5 flat with tires 2.07 - 2.09 first time out this year. Wade bissonate and myself ran 93 in 5.02 a 10th of a second apart. I ran my a 2.16- 2.17.
This was with staggered start racing.
Later,
Fireball929

Promatch Racing
BSR Tires
C&N Hobbies
Hot Flash motors

BSR sets track record @ Lake City RC Speedway in Plattsburgh in pro and sportsman class. My brother ran 88 5 flat with tires 2.07 - 2.09 first time out this year. Wade bissonate and myself ran 93 in 5.02 a 10th of a second apart. I ran my a 2.16- 2.17.
This was with staggered start racing.
Later,
Fireball929

Promatch Racing
BSR Tires
C&N Hobbies
Hot Flash motors

What tire/traction compound setup did you run?

Steve.
team BSR

I thought you run down on the rim Mike. LOL

With the old Adrenaline I used to run them to the rims. When I switched to the KSG, I ran them around 2.25-2.20. This year I've tried them up around 2.27 and the car just hasn't been right. Stock hasn't been too bad, but brushless has been terrible. I think I'm going to run them around 2.20 and see if that helps.

Where have you been racin at?

I have not been for a couple of years, just started back a couple of months ago.

BSR's also TQ'd / New Track record this weekend at Racing City's Halloween Race in 19 turn...:thumbsup:

...and the spring rate...

technically, just the wheel rate.
A spring rate, is what it is.
When you 'fool' the car, by offseting something more or less,
or changing a mounting angle, it's a change
in the 'wheel rate' not the 'spring rate'.. :)

Dan's correct; spring rate remains the same, the wheel rate is what the wheel "thinks" the spring rate is, depending on how close or far it is mounted from it. The further away from the spring on the axle the wheel is located, the more leverage the wheel has to compress the spring, thus making it think it is a softer sprin, or softer wheel rate. :thumbsup:

Hey Steve, I ran green LF, Grey/silver RF 50/50, White LR, white/grey RR. The car had major tweak in it and it still was loose off.
Chris ran grey LF, White RF, white LR, Grey RR. He switched the fronts around to this setup by mistake and he tire tacked his usual way and the car was great. This is when he ran his 88 5 flat in sportsman.
I know these setups don't make sense but they worked.
Later,
Fireball929

Promatch Racing
BSR Tires
C&N Hobbies

Kenwood: Understood..there's something to be said for simplicity. Shimming the tire out on the axle is different than moving the entire suspension arm out. When you shim the wheel out on the axle, you change the width and the scrub radius.
Just another tuning device...

I understand the benefit to shimming when needed But I cant recall in recent or foggy past memory where I needed say .80 worth of movement.. but maybe that why im not quite where Id like to be tuning wise..

try experimenting and tuning with it... .020" makes a difference you can really feel. It's a great fine-tuning device.:thumbsup:

Ive typically left the front end alone and shimmed in the rear...But Ill try the front as well.. BUt what does moving say the RF .020 out or in give me...or LF in or out give me?? Whne Im shimming at the wheel versus moving the whole thing.. ??

bsr tq ed and crushed the track record by a lap at the strand in mcadoo pa!

Nice job Dave, gives me something to shoot for! Beach

thanks jim whites on the inside gray right front white gray rear right!

At this past weekends Fall Oval Shootout at the Hobbyplex in Omaha BSR tires swept the TQ spots and the A-mains. Track records were also shattered in Brushless, 19T and open Mod.

Just want to say thanks to John and Kevin for all the hard work. :thumbsup:

For Sure, best tires available.

19t: old record, 57 4:03 new record 58 4:01

Mod: old record, 61 4:00 new record 64 4:03

I'd like to know if BSR plans on making GOLD Spec Front tires available for purchase......and what the spec tires Duro out at??

What does a Gold compare to??? Siver????

Krisfo

Kris, look on there web site, they tell you that!! Do a little research in stead of asking everyone it would be a little quicker for you. In case that you forgotten sense I sent it to you yesterday here it is. http://www.bsr-racing.com/

Kris, look on there web site, they tell you that!! Do a little research in stead of asking everyone it would be a little quicker for you. In case that you forgotten sense I sent it to you yesterday here it is. http://www.bsr-racing.com/

I looked on the site to and i dont see anything.. it mentions gold rears but othing about fronts.. also every place i looked online has the rears but no fronts..