Jeepnyy, clear your private messages, Mark

For the KSG solid chassis, what ride height is the best for a concrete oval track? Do you use the spacers under the front end, and which ride height is the best on the rear? Also what position is the best on the front wheel alignment holes, all the way to the front, in the middle, in the back or staggered?

Danny and Dwight I talked with you's at the Tri-Clone I will be getting the KSG chassis it sounds like the slider is the one to get for the flat track carpet hey? Chuck.

Everyone's been telling me to get the slider for the flat carpet too -- but no one can say exactly why it's better than the solid chassis.

just more tuning with a slider. moving weight around..... :thumbsup:

I would say the slider is the way to go at 95% of the tracks in the country. There are a couple that the solid is a huge benefit, like BMS in Tenn. I have run both on outdoor tracks haven't seen much difference, but on carpet slider all the way, for me anyway. There are some guys that like the solid on carpet.

does anybody have pics of this left front correcter thing???

Dave email me at cb_30@yahoo.com about the toe correctors.

Danny B or any one of the Team guys-What chassis holes are you running the center shock mount in and how long is the center shock?Which hole are you mounting the center shock in on the shock mount? Which holes for the side shocks? For flat carpet.Just need a starting spot.Thanks in advance.

Bob, I run it one hole forward and 4th or 5th hole down depending on how smooth the track it. 3 inches end to end, fully extended is a good place to start with length.

I like running the car with the side shocks all the way down with a little bit softer springs, some guys like them in the second hole down with stiffer springs. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Thanks,Danny.

ran jackson region6 last weekend, chassis cracked in front of front end screw. seems like a problem.(still love the car though)

Hey Danny......I was thinking of running the car on a banked carpet track for the first time.......If I ran it with offset would it work?..or is is offset strictly a flat track option...thanks

Bud, we run off-set everywhere. I have never even had the straight up stuff on my car since I started running it almost two years ago now. I don't think running off-set will hold the car back at all, if you make the right adjustments either way is equally fast.

Danny, I know it has been said on here somewhere and different people have different opinions, do softer side springs loosen the car up or tighten the car? I thought softer would loosen the car because of how the rear suspension is designed, but now I'm not sure. Thanks!

Seven, yes and no, there a good answer...lol

Stiffer rear springs loosen the car. Where people get confused is softer springs let the car rotate more this gives the car a "feel" of turning better. This is most noticable on entry, the weight transfers faster therefore making the car more aggressive feeling. This is most benefical on tracks with tighter corners. The more sweeping the corner the stiffer springs you can and should run.

Hope that clears up your question.

the oil weight effects how fast the transition is... the softer springs allow more roll which can make it loose as the end result if there is too much roll allowed by the springs.... not trying to bash Danny, just going a step further.

My statement was very poorly worded...i'll come up with something better when i get off work.

Danny B thanks for being a good source of information and sharing with everyone on this board. Too many people are caught up in secrecy. ;)

I like running the car with the side shocks all the way down with a little bit softer springs, some guys like them in the second hole down with stiffer springs. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Danny ....Can you explain what the advantages and disadvantages are to each way?

Thanks

RC

Seven, yes and no, there a good answer...lol

Stiffer rear springs loosen the car. Where people get confused is softer springs let the car rotate more this gives the car a "feel" of turning better. This is most noticable on entry, the weight transfers faster therefore making the car more aggressive feeling. This is most benefical on tracks with tighter corners. The more sweeping the corner the stiffer springs you can and should run.

Hope that clears up your question.
Danny, That helps me alot. I run on a short tight flat track and have had to run soft side springs to get my car to feel like it was turning better. It was fast with stiffer springs, but felt tight to me on entry and exit. Now here is a question about the offset pod. I see where you said that you have always run your pod offset. I have tried mine offset and the car felt tight off the turns. Does the offset pod affect this? I have since moved my pod straight up and left the offset rear hub on to tuck my left rear tire inside of my left front and my car feels alot better. Our tracks changes so much from week to week and it is hard to tell if the track changed and made my car feel better or if the changes I made to the car made the difference. Just to let you know, I am running a solid chassis KSG. Thanks.

Roadsplat, Running more angle on the side shocks will do two things. It will tighten the car on entry and will reduce roll in the rear of the car. The side springs are linear but with more angle they "act" progressive, the more level they are they run more toward their linear weights. You should be able to feel this with your hands if you change the angle and leave all other factors the same. I run mostly on sweeping corner tracks 20ft+ wide infields, I believe more angle is better on those types of tracks. Then there are occasions when we run on "loose" tracks i think this helps there by being able to run softer springs for traction but not getting too much rear rotation. When we go to to a tighter corner track we have the option of raising the shocks if we need to.

Seven, Off-set pod tightens the car, no doubt. It moves static weight left and gives the RR more leverage on the Left side spring(similar to running a softer left side spring which makes you tighter)

Hey Danny B and Dwight well I got my slider chassis today now I can't wait to go racing I hoped there were setup's in the back but not to happen so I'll be asking questions here like I was at the Tri-clone this past summer.

Danny and Dwight,

What chassis would you guys recomend ( slider or solid ) For a high banked tight oval track, running mod at, oh lets say Classic Hobbies??? KSG chassis.

Danny and Dwight,

What chassis would you guys recomend ( slider or solid ) For a high banked tight oval track, running mod at, oh lets say Classic Hobbies??? KSG chassis.

I'm interested in this question too -- I've run a Hyperdrive solid chassis the past 2 years at Classic. Now I have a new KSG slider too, soooo.. which ? I know Classic has always been kind of a Hyperdrive track.

Jeff,
When I set the record at Classic in stock 2 years ago 54 4:03 , I was on the KSG slider chassis.
But the HD Pro2 shorty is even faster at Classic.

I just got my hands on one of these cars..slider ot be exact! And WOW!!!!!!! These cars turn into and out of corners like rocketships headed to the moon at MACH 2!!! Anyone gots a setup for a 173ft flat oval with wide sweeping turns for 4 cell 19t. The track has alot of side bite, and maybe a setup for a 140ft flat carpet oval ????

Any help would be appreciated, fellow KSG owners!!!!

Kris Fowler

OH yeah forgot to ask......what is everyone body of choice to top off the rocketship???

Bandit M/C works great on a 198' 10 degree concrete track

Tony Brothers

I kinda need a baseline setup for stock 4 cell....any takers to help me??? I'm lost.........I've tried everything I can possibly think of......and I still can't get my car to perform like it should!!!!!


Kris

short wheelbase,side shocks 1 hole up from bottom,center shock 5th hole from top,60 wt center shock oil,30 wt sibe shock oil,blk buggy center spring,silver side springs,red frt springs,off set pod,lean top of rt frt tire in 2.5 degrees,lt frt out 1.5 degrees,battery trayslid .675 from t bar,hope this helps get you close. also 5 degrees castor on rt frt and 3 degrees on lt frt

alrighty...sounds good.....

A couple more questions though....

How is the car suposed to feel on the track with this combo??? And when you put the car on the scales what is the general starting left & right wheel weights on the rear wheels??????????

What tires do you use to make this work????

Kris

start at 320 grams on the left rear,car should turn in good,for tires i would use green or white on lf,white lr,white or aqua rr,hard blue or hard black rf.

Hey Kris, the problem you maybe running into is your track starts off tight and after people start to practice the track become loose. If this setup doesn't work you may have to put a green rf spring on and maybe stiffen the rear springs up...Jim

Hey Jim...

Actually looking at lap times I think I start out free....maybe a little loose.....4.22 at start and at the end or middle of the run I get tight...drop to a 4.42 - 4.62........even tried a reciver pack.....

First run with setup I had in car w/ receiver pack 4.4 all way thru.......

Now.....I might even be lacking in Horsepower too......and off on gearing.....

What is a good brush/spring combo for 4 cell stock......

Going from 6 cell stock motor setup on fantom dyno with these numbers with this general setup.......

Monster stock....Purple positive red negative...reedy 767's

22,256 @3.80 power 63 @ 11,235 (63@11,235) torque .982

now for 4 cell is all about rpm???


and right now for setup on rear of car i have a gold assoc on left rear, red on rr rear w/ 20wt oil.......60wt in center green spring green springs up front.....

shocks one hole down from top..center shock mount 3 up from bottom..battery tray all way back close to tire as i can go.......reciever pack and speedo on tray........

Kris

anyone got pictures of the nitro car run @ coopers?

KSG got nitro car?????

This could get interesting......KSG on fuzzy stuff....KSG car on outdoor oval w/nitro.....PRICELESS!!!

Drooling for info!!!!!!!!

KRis

My LHS had two 1/12 xtreme CS's in stock today, if you want to run 1/12 scale oval it's the only choice!!!!!!!!!!

Kris, for a 4c ran i don't think you need green springs upfront. your dropping off .4 from the start to finish, that's no bad. try reducing your gearing and see if your upfront lap time go down...remember in 4c stock you have to have the total package to run up front , i know because i tryed....

Cool beans Jimmie...

I will leave car as I got it as of right now....then try these other setups......

Will work on gearing......

Thanks Guys....Hopefully I can get this thing into victiry lane again...



Kris

How about the website for KSG??? I'd like to get one of those fine brush cutters :thumbsup: .

Later, Bret

You should also get the car LOL heres the web addy..
http://www.ksgmotorsports.com/products/kits.aspx

ROCKET

I don't see a listing for the brush cutter. I think, I was told it was KSG, it's blue and is easily hight adjustable just by twisting it.
Does this sound familier???

Later, Bret

Jet I reallly have heard anything about a new item like that BUt Andy has made some limited quinity stuff for his TEAm guys .....The body post were out of this world ...Made of Axle material and aluminum AWESOME.

When are you going to be at Glens Falls ,Pete,Ziggy and me need a road trip fisrt of next month ....SRM

The one I saw, Scott H. had and he said he bought it at the birds last year, not a team item, so maybe it's not KSG, hmmm, it's a cool deal though I hope I find them.


Glens falls??? I'll be there on a weekly basis now unless I'm headed outta town. The first week in November sounds good though :p .

Later, Bret

Jet you have a PM. Mark Z

Jet Talk to Mike Valentine he had made 20 or so of the best brush dcutters i have ever seen...SRM


BAT what Up Big Dawg, Looking to go to Akron sometime soon Give me a shout ....

Rocket

Thanks Mark that's the one :thumbsup: .

SRM, I know, those are just too cool, but no more available :( . Todd has been pushing him for more, we'll see if he can make time.

Thanks, Bret

Mike did tell me he was thinking about doing another batch, but no eta yet....
oh and I said YES PLEASE!!
NICK

Danny you say you always run a off set pod, well do you line up your L front with the L rear as is done with a regular pod car? Is the LR tire weight set at 320g the same as most other cars. A couple questions for you, thanks. Chuck