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krisgel
06-17-2004, 12:43 PM
Should I be replacing the t-plate on my car after a certain amount of time? It is not broken or anything, I was just wondering if after a while it looses some of it's ridigity.

Thanks.

rayhuang
06-17-2004, 02:25 PM
Should I be replacing the t-plate on my car after a certain amount of time? It is not broken or anything, I was just wondering if after a while it looses some of it's ridigity.

Thanks.Only when it develops white stress marks in the corners of the t-plate or you experience un solvable handling or tweak issues.I always recommend having your spare T-plate fully built and ready to install. Saves mega time bwteen rounds if you find your t-plate damaged on race day.

It doesnt hurt to have a 0.063 and a 0.074 t-plate pre-built either.

Ray

erock1331
06-17-2004, 04:03 PM
Been there, done that, not much of a challenge. No offence to the oval guys I know it is a lot harder than it looks. Got 5th or 6th in the Bmain Mod 1/10 at the carpet oval nats with a car that was no good and a body that did not work. Went to classic racing weekly and won almost everytime. Frank was the only good competition there. We had some good battles.

Paul
Paul
Just curious what your last name is?
I have been racing there for about 3 years now.

The comment you made about Frank being the only good competition blows my mind. Frank is a threat no matter where he races. Ricky Liehr and Adam Liehr have 5 national titles between them.
Mario Marsilio has 2 titles, I have one and 2-runner ups, and a couple others have won one as well. Hmm for us not being that good ask the Sandhills, N.C. guys what happens when us Ohio boys show up each year. LOL
Whenever I travel racers from other tracks tell me that Classic racers collectively are probably near the top.

Last year when we all went to Sandhills for the ARCOR nationals
we took about 21 guys down there. In stock we had 7 out of 10 guys in the A-main, took 1st and 2nd, In the B-main took 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th I believe. Our guys took 1st and 2nd in 19T in the A and both Frank and Ricky made the A in mod with some big names in the house.

Not trying to be cocky I just wanted to defend us a little after your statement above

No harm no foul.
Later
Eric H.



Eric H.

rayhuang
06-17-2004, 07:11 PM
truly-the RC racing gods are NOT on my side this summer!! I just caught Stacie and Audreys cold this afternoon. Felt it comin on and its hitting me like a semi-head-on right now. Man is tomorrow gonna be a long day!!

Chicky03-see what you started :lol:

chicky03
06-17-2004, 08:31 PM
Eric,

I did not mean to down you guys at all. When I was racing there were only a few "National Level" guys racing there. Frank is a great guy and racer and did not mean any foul to him either. Frank and Frank actaully helped my quite a bit. I have not heard of the other guys you mentioned because they probably were not racing at the time. I would have to imagine if I were to come and race I would get spanked. A lot has changed since I raced. It is nice that you guys have a bunch of good racers there like we do at the gate for road course because it makes everyone faster and better when you go somewhere else like you guys have done. The post was more to try and get Wayne going.

My last name is Ciccarello. Here is the link to the race I was at. http://www.roarracing.com/nats/results/1998/98crpov.htm

See you tomorrow.

Paul

fleetwood
06-17-2004, 11:03 PM
I am guessing that the first thing that you two need to do when you talk is figure out which car you are running at that point;)
It may go something like this.

Ray: Rob....I ran all 8 of my touring cars tonight. I think I had a bad speedo in all of them because they just were not fast. The couple that were fast did not handle well so it could be a radio problem.

Rob: Hey Brutha....my pimped out xray was flat Dialed baby. It was money! I was 2 tenths faster than the Pro 4 which was 2 tenths faster than the tc3 which was 2 tenths faster than the mission 2....ding dong....hold on Ray...the UPS guy is here with my RC Lab and Losi stuff.

Ray: Hey Rob...I have yet to figure out how Jones was so damn fast with the xray. I mean he had a stock chassis on the car and he finished building it at the track. I kick his A$$ at the big races but at the club races he passes me like I am running a radio shack car....hey wait, I have yet to try one of those. Do you have jason's number....sweet...a BMI radio Schack ride!

Rob: If you get the radio shack ride, please grab me one too....I will do some testing. I am however running out of room to gain that 2 tenths...my lap times are down to 6 seconds.

Ray: Oh well I am out of here....have to go work on the oval car, the Matt Francis Losi, the 10th scale pan car, the gas car, my 3 12th scale cars, and the brp....there is a slight chance that I can get parolled and will be able to attend the race.

Sorry guys! I could not pass up the opportunity for a little humor at your expense...I cant say much as I have spent a ton recently as well...unfortunate for AJ's there was no big margin items:freak: . Ray, I do have some info from last night that may help with the xray.
Jonesr,

You knucklehead. Cracking me up:) Good one.................

RB

joneser
06-17-2004, 11:58 PM
Sorry Rob....I could not pass up the opportunity. I hope you enjoyed.

How is the xray going? I love the car. had a few issues on Wednesday but they were tire related. Do you think you will stick with it?

fleetwood
06-18-2004, 02:46 AM
Sorry Rob....I could not pass up the opportunity. I hope you enjoyed.

How is the xray going? I love the car. had a few issues on Wednesday but they were tire related. Do you think you will stick with it?
I definitely enjoyed it:)~ Cracked me up.

I'd like to say I am going to stick with it, but I "often" eat my words. However, I have purchases two Factory Kits now. With that said the odds are pretty high I will be running an X-Ray this season. I only got off base from TC3 one time this past season. I took a deal with Schumacher before the Birds, but had bad luck as you know. I ran the TC3 from August to January (pretty good for me).... All joking aside. I am pretty sure I am going to run the X-Ray this season. I am pretty committed.....

BMI is suplying with me the graphite I need so I think it is a good combo. Fukuyama batteries, KO electronics, BSR tires, and Protoform bodies will definitely be in the pits..........

Looks like I can come up on June 30 and July 14. I'd like to bring the car up and see how it goes at the Gate. Past two times I have been there my cars have been complete piles (Schuie and Pro 4).......

RB

sg1
06-18-2004, 07:09 AM
Good job Paul.... I didn't get going!!!! lol

chicky03
06-18-2004, 07:24 AM
Good job Paul.... I didn't get going!!!! lol
:cry: :cry:

sg1
06-18-2004, 09:00 AM
It's OK... TURN THAT FROWN UPSIDE DOWN!!!!

erock1331
06-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Eric,
A lot has changed since I raced. It is nice that you guys have a bunch of good racers there like we do at the gate for road course because it makes everyone faster and better when you go somewhere else like you guys have done. The post was more to try and get Wayne going.

Paul
Hey Paul, no biggie, I just had to stick up for my boys, LOL
I agree with ya though, it is nice to have such great local competition. Keeps everyone on their toes and makes em faster.

I notice at big sedan and 1/12th scale events that the Cleveland area racers usually kick some major butt.
So props to you guys too.

See ya
Eric

ZOOOOM
06-18-2004, 10:32 AM
Jonser,
:lol: :lol: NOW THAT WAS FUNNY :lol:

MuchoMadness
06-18-2004, 12:50 PM
SG1 is a tool.

sg1
06-18-2004, 01:41 PM
Is that why you waxed my body?????

MuchoMadness
06-18-2004, 04:29 PM
Geez, do you have to let everybody know. Fine, wax your own body next time then. It'll never be as smooth as I can get it though. You probably don't care. DM told me you prefer it rough rather than smooth anyway.

Ooops......is this an R/C car website....

rayhuang
06-19-2004, 01:09 AM
Oval was a lot of fun. I am very glad I did the last miinute thrash to get the car ready for this race. I finshed buildig the car this morning in a cold sweat and fever-it was no fun!!

I am definately game for more Oval this summer-heck even this winter too.

fleetwood
06-19-2004, 02:34 AM
Oval was a lot of fun. I am very glad I did the last miinute thrash to get the car ready for this race. I finshed buildig the car this morning in a cold sweat and fever-it was no fun!!

I am definately game for more Oval this summer-heck even this winter too.
I want details. Who did what??

RB

losidude44857
06-19-2004, 11:07 AM
No kidding, i skipped out on this one...went and seen Dodgeball.
-Buddy

rayhuang
06-19-2004, 04:04 PM
Mod Touring was a fun one as pride was on the line. Joneser was talkin up his mad skills on the oval and Chicky wanted to use Joneser's motor. :lol: Jimmy was running the show with help from Goetz, but still rippin it up with my V2 8x1. Joneser had a V2 9x1 Hara Edition and pretty sure they both ran without rebuilds!!! IN the Main-Chicky got away-Jimmy fell back and lo and behold-Joneser was staying with him for the first time all night. Then Joneser let the pressure get to him and he started to blow the corners. But to his luck Chicky stuffed it in traffic and Jonser had the lead. Jimmy crashed and that put him right in front of Joneser who kept trying for an outside pass on Jimmy-aaah-not gonna happen!! In the end-Chicky took the win, then Joneser!! It was a fun one to watch.

IN 1/10th stock-it was a good dice up front with Wayne, Vicky and Eric duking it out for top spot. Some ultra consistent and tight driving by Wayne had him take TQ. IN the Main-Wayne got away, Eric fell back to last and clawed his way back up. Ernie had the smooothest looking car there, Locked in-dialed-whatever-but he was suffering a bit of straightline speed. Me-I was chasing down Ron Mick with every bit of concenration I had. I figured out a line with about 20 laps to go and got real consistent on lap times from there on out. I went from mostly 5 second laps to finish the race on almost all 4.9's! Not too shabby as everyone else was on 4.7 to 5.1 on the last 5-laps! So I finshed competitive and happy. Almost everyone gave me advice and used it and verey change made car freer and faster and easier to drive. I really enjoyed running it.

rayhuang
06-19-2004, 04:14 PM
In BRP Modified-it was the Tyler Gerber show!! He TQ'd and won the main with the screaming banana car by 4 laps!!!

I didnt watch the Bomber or Indy classes, but the results are up on the website!!

www.clevelandcarpetracing.com
Ray

Rich Chang
06-19-2004, 07:10 PM
Hola,

I figured since this will be in your area July 8 - July 11 you guys would want to participate. My brother-in-law and sister went to the one held in Boston and got to thrash an H2, Vette, and SSR.

http://www.autoshowinmotion.com/index.asp?flash=True

You can pre-register. Too bad it is not being held somewhere near me in Michigan. :)

-Rich

joneser
06-20-2004, 12:31 AM
I never claimed to have mad oval skills....exspecially not with a mod motor that I have never had in a car before. It was fun. Too bad chicky had to mess with his car....we were supposed to "run what you left with Wed." Then again he could not go out there and run like an idiot since he was out here mouthing off earlier in the week. And he has the nerve to beg me for my motor when he is already kicking A$$...Isn't that like lending a baseball bat to the guy who is beating you over the head with one?Mod Touring was a fun one as pride was on the line. Joneser was talkin up his mad skills on the oval and Chicky wanted to use Joneser's motor. :lol: Jimmy was running the show with help from Goetz, but still rippin it up with my V2 8x1. Joneser had a V2 9x1 Hara Edition and pretty sure they both ran without rebuilds!!! IN the Main-Chicky got away-Jimmy fell back and lo and behold-Joneser was staying with him for the first time all night. Then Joneser let the pressure get to him and he started to blow the corners. But to his luck Chicky stuffed it in traffic and Jonser had the lead. Jimmy crashed and that put him right in front of Joneser who kept trying for an outside pass on Jimmy-aaah-not gonna happen!! In the end-Chicky took the win, then Joneser!! It was a fun one to watch.

IN 1/10th stock-it was a good dice up front with Wayne, Vicky and Eric duking it out for top spot. Some ultra consistent and tight driving by Wayne had him take TQ. IN the Main-Wayne got away, Eric fell back to last and clawed his way back up. Ernie had the smooothest looking car there, Locked in-dialed-whatever-but he was suffering a bit of straightline speed. Me-I was chasing down Ron Mick with every bit of concenration I had. I figured out a line with about 20 laps to go and got real consistent on lap times from there on out. I went from mostly 5 second laps to finish the race on almost all 4.9's! Not too shabby as everyone else was on 4.7 to 5.1 on the last 5-laps! So I finshed competitive and happy. Almost everyone gave me advice and used it and verey change made car freer and faster and easier to drive. I really enjoyed running it.

fleetwood
06-20-2004, 03:25 AM
So what is going on June 30th? Is that a race night or a practice night? I am planning to come up....

RB

rayhuang
06-20-2004, 09:26 AM
The 30th is a practice night. There will have been one race on the layout-so the traction will be decent that night. Too bad you cannot come-up on the 23rd. Chicky, Jimmy,Buddy, GOetz , Ray, etc, etc. JOneser, and everyone are running stock touring that night. It will be a really, really comptitive night. Xrays vs. the Barracuda, vs the Pro4, vs the TC3!!!!

Ray

fleetwood
06-20-2004, 07:03 PM
Well shoot........ I may come up anyway. I would like to do some testing at your track. How does the new layout look?

Take care,
RB

losidude44857
06-20-2004, 10:14 PM
I think they aren't doing it until like Tuesday. Not sure.
-Buddy

rayhuang
06-20-2004, 11:10 PM
Jimmy-would you post the work night schedule as I can only make it Monday later in evening to help.

Thanks,
Ray

bean's my hero
06-21-2004, 07:34 AM
Hey Guys,


We will re-do the track configuration to make it back into a road coarse Tuesday evening. We will start at 6:00 PM and work till it's done. If you can help it will be greatly appreciated and you will be compensated for your efforts.

Thanks,
Jim

Skip Gear
06-21-2004, 11:31 AM
Rob, Ray, anybody else.

I need help tracking down Tony Williams. I had hoped to not have to go public looking for him but I have exhausted all my resources. I painted bodies for him for the Carpet Nat's this spring, (8 in total). I broke my own rule and sent them before receiving payment because I was running behind when I got them done. I gave them too Dean Delano to be hand delivered to Mr. Williams at the Nat's expecting payment when Tony returned home from the Nat's. I e-mailed the total as we had aggreed on the phone. I had done business with him before and he was always very nice and very prompt with payment and return calls so I had no worries about the transaction being completed. Since that time I have had no correspondence with Mr. Williams.

I have e-mailed repeatedly, called his cell, his work, his home, and sent letters snail mail to his work and home with no reply to any of them. It is as if the man has just disapeared off the face of the earth or died. I have read on here that he has since shown up at club races so I know he is still alive. My conclusion is that he is purposely avoiding me and trying to flake out on the bodies.

At this point it has been almost 3 months since he recieved the bodies and I am out a weeks worth of work and a large sum of money. If anybody see's him at the track or knows how to contact him, can you tell him I would like to recieve payment for these bodies. My only recourse from this piont is legal and the ammount of money owed is enough to justify it. I would rather not have to go that way though.

Fair warning - DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH TONY WILLIAMS. I understand he has quite a bit to do with the Cleveland Winter Champs which really makes me wonder about being involved with that event.

rayhuang
06-21-2004, 11:41 AM
If my Mom can watch Audrey for a couple hours-'ll come out to help-if not-I'll just come up to pick-up Eric's sunglasses. SORRY Jim!!

Anyways-this is a bit early-but do we want to sort of plan that July 14th be a Stock 12th Scale night? Basically try and get everyone who owns a 12th scale to run stock that night? Get like 15 or 20 cars?

HMmmm...Lets see we can get:

myself
Brant
Pete
Jimmy
Aaron
Dan
Ray A
Dave U
MArlon
Chicky
Adam
Wayne
Vicky
MIke B
Eric
Dave M
Blake
...

chicky03
06-21-2004, 01:35 PM
Skip,

Tony has been MIA for a about two months. All his friends have called and left many messages and he has not answered or called back. We have no idea what is going on.

Paul

joneser
06-21-2004, 02:22 PM
Skip,
I feel your pain....and I am not going to try to defend Tony. Tony has never done anything like this since I have known him...that being said, this is getting a little weird. Tony was in constant communication up until about 2 months ago. He had a major change in employement and since then has semi-vanished. I know that Dean had posted a request for Tony's number and I sent him a PM with that number. I also told Tony that I did that. Then a few weeks ago Rob love asked if I had been in contact with him or if I could contact him. I too have had issues in contacting him and have only had 2 very brief conversations with him. Both of these conversations were prior to me learning of your situation. A few weeks ago when Rob asked me about Tony, I left a message for Tony on his voicemail...I basically told him that people were trying to get a hold of him and he needed to respond.

I have no idea what is going on but it is not like him at all. He went from calling a few of us everyday to no communication at all. He has not been racing...(only 1 time since the nats) so none of us have seen him. I can't beleive he would be avoiding you for this dollar amount because he can spend with the best of them and this should not be an issue. I will try to communicate again....I can't promise anything because I too have not talked to him for a long time. After I do that, I am done. Like I said, this is not like him at all.....I think something is wrong. That probably does not make you feel any better but that is my take.

losidude44857
06-21-2004, 03:42 PM
Yeah, i have been wondering where Tony went to....
-Buddy

joneser
06-21-2004, 04:00 PM
Who knows, maybe he retired happy because he beat me his last time out.:confused: Yeah, i have been wondering where Tony went to....
-Buddy

fleetwood
06-21-2004, 06:02 PM
Skip Gear,

Sorry bud. Have not heard a word. Jonesr and the others would no better as they are closer to him. I really hope things work out......


Gate,

Looks like the 30th is out. Bank One is sending me a to a Cisco DWDM course for the week...... I am off on the 14th and am planning to come up then.

RB Love

bean's my hero
06-22-2004, 07:39 AM
Guys,


Just a reminder, we will re-do the track tonight starting at 6:00PM. If you can help it would be great.

Thanks,
Jim

David Usnik
06-22-2004, 08:24 AM
If my Mom can watch Audrey for a couple hours-'ll come out to help-if not-I'll just come up to pick-up Eric's sunglasses. SORRY Jim!!

Anyways-this is a bit early-but do we want to sort of plan that July 14th be a Stock 12th Scale night? Basically try and get everyone who owns a 12th scale to run stock that night? Get like 15 or 20 cars?
...
Pending a decision by my events coordinator, i'm in!

chicky03
06-22-2004, 09:51 AM
Pending a decision by my events coordinator, i'm in!
Two weeks in a row?? I have my doubts.:rolleyes:

Paul

rayhuang
06-22-2004, 10:11 AM
I too "requested" that date. My babysitters leave the country again this week-so I will do a run two qualifiers and leave if I have to.

If one of you SEEEdan only drivers want to run 12th scale-I can put together one Speedmerchant Rev3 for you to run. All you will need is ESC, Receiver and motor. I have plenty of batteries and tires and I'll mount a servo in it. YOu'll need to let me know soon so I can start to build it. Oh-it'll have a body-but not a very good one so maybe you might want to buy a Parma Speed8 lightweight for it.

Two weeks in a row?? I have my doubts.:rolleyes:

Paul

sg1
06-22-2004, 10:26 AM
HEY PAUL..... No bodies!!!! :(

chicky03
06-22-2004, 10:35 AM
HEY PAUL..... No bodies!!!! :(
Apparently the shipping crew did not ship them out:dude: They are being sent today. Sorry.

Paul

David Usnik
06-22-2004, 10:55 AM
Two weeks in a row?? I have my doubts.:rolleyes:

Paul
No really, i'm putting my foot down this time.

losidude44857
06-22-2004, 11:41 AM
Ray i would like to on the 14th, but i have no extra reciever, and speedo.
-Buddy

rayhuang
06-22-2004, 03:53 PM
Ray i would like to on the 14th, but i have no extra reciever, and speedo.
-BuddyIt's no biggie!! If you find some extra electronincs-let me know. But I am sorry-but I wont be doing a last night rebuild, so find some soon!! I am too old to do that anymore it seems.

Rich Chang
06-22-2004, 07:30 PM
It appears that Brian Shields is living a double life racing r/c cars down in Dallas. He appears to have had some plastic surgery performed in order to try and hide his identity.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040618/D839MDE81.html

-Rich

rayhuang
06-22-2004, 11:25 PM
Rich-hmmmm-Maybe he was on one of those MTV reality shows!!!

Sorry I didnt make the new track layout party.

See y'all tomorrow!!
Ray

fleetwood
06-23-2004, 04:30 AM
Alright. Another schedule change. Looks like I am heading north on July 7th....

RB

bshields
06-23-2004, 12:13 PM
It appears that Brian Shields is living a double life racing r/c cars down in Dallas. He appears to have had some plastic surgery performed in order to try and hide his identity.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040618/D839MDE81.html

-Rich

Damn it! I haven't even payed off the surgery, yet!:rolleyes: I'm going to go for the Brad Pitt look next. :)

rayhuang
06-24-2004, 10:15 AM
Well-thak goodness for Jimmy and GOetz who built this great new layout by themselves.

The track was fun to drive. As it was techincal-it made passing difficult without help from your fellow racer. But racing was still good as Buran and CHicky and Goetz and Jones both had great battles in the Mains.

I think it is a good time to tell everyone that we need more people to come out in the summer. 15 entries is not cutting it and to be honest-it is jeapordizing both the summer series and quite possibly the fall series as well. No one is under any obligation to have to come race at the Gate-but everyne should!! At least once a month. One race of 30 or 40 entries per month would make a world of difference!!

Heres a couple pics of the new layout. Enjoy!!