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rayhuang
06-13-2004, 11:16 PM
David-I am stopping out to pick up the Xray for Rob Love at a minimum and would love to practice-but I shold go home and build my oval car for Friday night.

Ray

joneser
06-13-2004, 11:23 PM
I will be there....only running touring right now. will get the 12th back out in a few weeks. Want to run some stock 12th scale every now and then

rayhuang
06-13-2004, 11:41 PM
JOneser-did you get my PM? It was about an inexpensive set of golf clubs I saw for sale. Please let me know what you think please!! Fathers days comin- up-might ask for a set of clubs.....Better than a tie I figure!!

Thanks,
Ray

bean's my hero
06-14-2004, 07:48 AM
Factory Kit XRAY

We will have the Factory Kit Xray instock on Wed. with a diff for the front of it. The car will be $289.95 and the diff will be $38.95. Anybody interested?

Jim

bean's my hero
06-14-2004, 07:50 AM
Alright everyone out there: This wed is open practice. Doors open at 5:30PM. Who's coming. This Friday is our first Oval Race! Who's coming.


Jim

STONE
06-14-2004, 07:52 AM
Is wednesday practice going to be the same layout or a new layout for the oval race on friday?

bean's my hero
06-14-2004, 07:55 AM
It will be the same layout as last week.

bean's my hero
06-14-2004, 07:58 AM
Hey Guys,

Wed night we will be ending practice at 9:30 sharpe to change the track to an oval and set up some jumps for the mini-Ts in the infield.

Thanks,
Jim

sg1
06-14-2004, 09:39 AM
Jim...
What time will the doors open Friday?? How many qualifiers will be run??

Ray...
Do you got a 1/10 oval car ready???


Wayne

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 10:07 AM
Wayne-doors open at 4pm Friday.I have the car on its way-may be here today!! The car is missing parts and those are being express shipped to me as well as Tires and a body.

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 10:20 AM
YOU know guys-I am sure that if enough on-road guys show up with 12th scales or Sedan guys show-both could have a class that night. Well the 12th scales woud be in 4-cell 12th stock maybe-youd probably just need to get a 12th scale nascar body. If anyone needs me to order them some oval bodies for Friday-e-mail me-but realise we may have to ship 2 day which will be pretty expensive.

Xpressman
06-14-2004, 01:44 PM
Hmmm.....did I hear OVAL?????? Tell me more about the track size. Is it going to be the whole size of the onroad track? If it is high ho horespower yeeeeeeaaaaahhhh.

Let's see here. Fort Wayne to Cleveland is only 230.1 miles. It is 30.1 miles longer then the 200 mile club race radi. hmmmmm Waht time do dors open and racing start and all that good stuff?

Brian Anthony

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 01:47 PM
Brian-doors open Friday at 4pm. I THINK track is Snowbirds sized as erock and Jimmy have discussed.

Brian-I hope your name implies you owned Express'. I got one dirt cheap and the belts on it are SOOO TIGHT!! ANy tips to free-em up a bit. I boght the car from Chrsi who bought it from LUfaso. It is a mkII I think.

Thanks in advance,
Ray

Xpressman
06-14-2004, 01:48 PM
YOU know guys-I am sure that if enough on-road guys show up with 12th scales or Sedan guys show-both could have a class that night. Well the 12th scales woud be in 4-cell 12th stock maybe-youd probably just need to get a 12th scale nascar body. If anyone needs me to order them some oval bodies for Friday-e-mail me-but realise we may have to ship 2 day which will be pretty expensive.

Ray,

The only company that makes 12th oval bodies is MacAlister right now. The Bolink and Protoform bodies are better but no longer made. You might beable to find a place that has some Protoform Taurus' in stock but I doubt it. Just an FYRI (for your racing information)

Brain

Xpressman
06-14-2004, 02:00 PM
Brian-doors open Friday at 4pm. I THINK track is Snowbirds sized as erock and Jimmy have discussed.

Brian-I hope your name implies you owned Express'. I got one dirt cheap and the belts on it are SOOO TIGHT!! ANy tips to free-em up a bit. I boght the car from Chrsi who bought it from LUfaso. It is a mkII I think.

Thanks in advance,
Ray

Ray,

I did run a Xpress Mark Swauger Kit (also known as a MK. 3). I ran it since it came out in july of '00 and just this past season stopped running. I got on the TC3 wagon and wasn;t nearly as competitive as I was the Xpress. I think it was more mental then anything. I never really had a probelm with the belts being too tight. If anythign the rea on was always a lil too loose. These are a true rubber belt and you could soak them in WD40 (I learned that trick from Blackstock with the older Yokomos). It makes them softer and subble and does work. If you try and stretch it a lil be careful they will break. Also make sure you bulkheads are straight and square. They are a big part of the structure and a lil off will bind a bearing. I have a ton of parts as I ran the car for 3 years and I also think Mike Mcmoney might still have all of his stuff from when he ran for them. Car is killer on carpet with a yok front end on it. If you need any parts let me know I also know a place that still carries parts for it out in cali.

I also have all the parts I ever broke with the car. I think it was like 5 or so. That doesn;t include the plastic parts on the yupper A-arm of the front suspension. The the 2 pieces that attach to the steering knuckle are the weakest on the car. I never really broke anything as I just wore it out. I did double up the rear shock tower as I felt it flexed too much. The only real parts that I ever broke were at the Ultra Triple Crown race whereI got rear ended just as my car got set down on the track off line for the start of the heat. Broke most of the right rear.

Sorry for the disotration but anythign else you need to know?

Brian

erock1331
06-14-2004, 02:20 PM
Is there a dolly or something at the track that we can put our bins of equipment on to haul them down the big hallway?

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 02:24 PM
erock1331-no community dolly!!

erock1331
06-14-2004, 02:34 PM
Thanks Ray.
I have one but it's at my parents. Bummer
I might have to go pick a cheap one up. I got stiches in my back and I am not allowed to lift anything heavy.

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 02:41 PM
I bought it mainly because I remember the year McMoney ran it at Champs and it was just a rocket and looked and sounded so cool!! I also rember holding this (probably exact same car) car in my hands waiting for the track in Mansfield to open and talking to Lufaso-and also thinking back then-I gotta get one of these some day. I bought it for less than a meal at Outback-so i got a car I always thought would be cool to own. WHat springs fit it? I tried Xray and they are too long!! I think AE will be too long too. I dont get to run/practice at Gate anywhere near as much as the olden days-so its harder for me to build up these toys and try-them. I almost bought a Tech MY02 last week-but then remembered-when would I run it? When would I be able to test it and get a set-up I like on it and then hot-lap it to see if its faster than my Tc3..... NEVER!!
THANKS!!!

Ray

Ray,

I did run a Xpress Mark Swauger Kit (also known as a MK. 3). I ran it since it came out in july of '00 and just this past season stopped running. I got on the TC3 wagon and wasn;t nearly as competitive as I was the Xpress. I think it was more mental then anything. I never really had a probelm with the belts being too tight. If anythign the rea on was always a lil too loose. These are a true rubber belt and you could soak them in WD40 (I learned that trick from Blackstock with the older Yokomos). It makes them softer and subble and does work. If you try and stretch it a lil be careful they will break. Also make sure you bulkheads are straight and square. They are a big part of the structure and a lil off will bind a bearing. I have a ton of parts as I ran the car for 3 years and I also think Mike Mcmoney might still have all of his stuff from when he ran for them. Car is killer on carpet with a yok front end on it. If you need any parts let me know I also know a place that still carries parts for it out in cali.

I also have all the parts I ever broke with the car. I think it was like 5 or so. That doesn;t include the plastic parts on the yupper A-arm of the front suspension. The the 2 pieces that attach to the steering knuckle are the weakest on the car. I never really broke anything as I just wore it out. I did double up the rear shock tower as I felt it flexed too much. The only real parts that I ever broke were at the Ultra Triple Crown race whereI got rear ended just as my car got set down on the track off line for the start of the heat. Broke most of the right rear.

Sorry for the disotration but anythign else you need to know?

Brian

Xpressman
06-14-2004, 03:26 PM
I bought it mainly because I remember the year McMoney ran it at Champs and it was just a rocket and looked and sounded so cool!! I also rember holding this (probably exact same car) car in my hands waiting for the track in Mansfield to open and talking to Lufaso-and also thinking back then-I gotta get one of these some day. I bought it for less than a meal at Outback-so i got a car I always thought would be cool to own. WHat springs fit it? I tried Xray and they are too long!! I think AE will be too long too. I dont get to run/practice at Gate anywhere near as much as the olden days-so its harder for me to build up these toys and try-them. I almost bought a Tech MY02 last week-but then remembered-when would I run it? When would I be able to test it and get a set-up I like on it and then hot-lap it to see if its faster than my Tc3..... NEVER!!
THANKS!!!

Ray

Ray if you ever want to buy me something to test just let me knwo and I will tell you what I want. hehehe I used TC3 springs on it but I had to sand down the ends so I could set ride height with the foam tires. A quick setup I was 60 wt yellow in the front and 50 wt and purple in the back, all AE stuff. The front no matter what will feel very soft compared to the rear. The biggest problem I always had is the rear end was always way too planted and it never wanted to rotate around the rear like a TC3. SO you had to get steering into it otherwise.

Brian

rayhuang
06-14-2004, 03:37 PM
Thats easy to see-the rear lower hingepin are so HIgh compared to the front-which are slammed low on the chassis. So its got ultra low front RC and ultra high Rear RC.

Its really-really stiff too. SO many cool cars-so little time. I would love to own some property like a buddy of mine-he has an asphalt Roval track in his back yard for sprint Karts!! Sadly its too big to be fun for RC cars-though he says I can run my RC cars there anytime. I keep bugging him to pour a skid pad next-but hes not budgin on that one!!! :lol:

Thanks,
Ray

Xpressman
06-14-2004, 06:03 PM
Thats easy to see-the rear lower hingepin are so HIgh compared to the front-which are slammed low on the chassis. So its got ultra low front RC and ultra high Rear RC.
Thanks,
Ray

With both one-ways in and on rubber tires it was very hard to beat on carpet and asphalt. Best summer of racing I had and they thought it was all battery. hehehehe

Brian

Mr-Tamiya
06-15-2004, 02:29 PM
Hey guys I missed the big swap meet, my grandmother passed away and I had to go to connecticut. Anyone have any speed controls or receivers for sale? got the kids cars and I need some electronics. Let me know here or email or call 440-821-8622

uspancarchamps
06-15-2004, 03:57 PM
Hey Ray, you get my PM?

rayhuang
06-15-2004, 10:09 PM
Uspancarchamps-I sure did. Havent ventred over to your forum n awhile-sorry.

my hyperdrive is here tomorrow. So looks like just stopping out to pick up the Xray Fk and maybe buy a Novak discharge tray andd go home and wrecnh the rest of the evening on the car!!

How much are the Nova Trays Jimmy?

Ray

bean's my hero
06-16-2004, 07:47 AM
$74.95.


Jim

rayhuang
06-16-2004, 09:33 AM
Great price!! $74.95.


Jim

joneser
06-16-2004, 09:59 AM
If he has one, its mine:p .....he forgot to bring it to the track last week! Tonight will be the highest one day sales figure his shop has ever had. I know I will own a huge chunk of that record!Great price!!

rayhuang
06-16-2004, 10:07 AM
JOneser-did you order any of those Xray parts last week-springs and things like that? Just curious!!

Ray

joneser
06-16-2004, 10:26 AM
no...forgot to tell you that....I was debating the second kit thing. Sorry. I can give you a full set of white springs for free! :p JOneser-did you order any of those Xray parts last week-springs and things like that? Just curious!!

Ray

rayhuang
06-16-2004, 10:31 AM
no...forgot to tell you that....I was debating the second kit thing. Sorry. I can give you a full set of white springs for free! :pCool-I'll add-em to my collection of about 8-pairs!!!! I'll be dialed if I ever put 8-shocks on my Sedan!! :lol:

I might try and run one pack with myXray before leaving tonight. Its got a new front camber location and my steering extensions are super glued on now!!! SO now you guys when driving it wont say-hey its pulling really hard this way-and I say-it wasnt when I was driving it!! hahaha!!!

Yeah-AJ hobbies is about to have a really bignight-Rob and I are buying a FK, your buying a FK, Novak Trays, etc.....

joneser
06-16-2004, 10:44 AM
Factory kit, novak tray, and at least 1 other big ticket item...not to mention what I told him to get quotes on. ouch!Cool-I'll add-em to my collection of about 8-pairs!!!! I'll be dialed if I ever put 8-shocks on my Sedan!! :lol:

I might try and run one pack with myXray before leaving tonight. Its got a new front camber location and my steering extensions are super glued on now!!! SO now you guys when driving it wont say-hey its pulling really hard this way-and I say-it wasnt when I was driving it!! hahaha!!!

Yeah-AJ hobbies is about to have a really bignight-Rob and I are buying a FK, your buying a FK, Novak Trays, etc.....

rayhuang
06-16-2004, 10:56 AM
If theres only one Novak tray-thats cool-I have my Indi Octanes which work very well still-they just seem to take off about 20 seconds of runtime over time. 409 sec packs on my T35 become 388 after a month or two. But as is customary-the voltage goes up from 1.177 to 1.183++ in some cases. I am hoping the Novak tray will lower IR a bit and maintain the runtime. This way-even if the pack does not jump up in voltage-the added runtime will keep the battery higher in its voltage curve as it discharges.

joneser
06-16-2004, 11:25 AM
Yeah...whatever he said:freak: If theres only one Novak tray-thats cool-I have my Indi Octanes which work very well still-they just seem to take off about 20 seconds of runtime over time. 409 sec packs on my T35 become 388 after a month or two. But as is customary-the voltage goes up from 1.177 to 1.183++ in some cases. I am hoping the Novak tray will lower IR a bit and maintain the runtime. This way-even if the pack does not jump up in voltage-the added runtime will keep the battery higher in its voltage curve as it discharges.

sg1
06-16-2004, 03:25 PM
Ray.... WOW.... I can't see a difference between any of them... Besides, the t35 doesn't maintain a constant discharge rate to check a pack, let alone match them!!!!

rayhuang
06-16-2004, 03:32 PM
Ray.... WOW.... I can't see a difference between any of them... Besides, the t35 doesn't maintain a constant discharge rate to check a pack, let alone match them!!!!
SG1-Yeah-you may be right. Didnt know that about the T35!!

The Hyperdrive is sitting at home and I got a care package full Hyperdive parts today at work. I next get a box of BSR tires-hopefully tomorrow!!

Looking forward to getting lapped about 50x Friday night. :)

chicky03
06-17-2004, 08:34 AM
Hey guys, there is going to be a Mod TC class friday night. Should be fun.

Paul

sg1
06-17-2004, 09:35 AM
MOD touring on oval??? What is this world coming to??? If Paul was a real man he'd get an Associated 1/10 oval car and come out and play!! (right RAY) :)

chicky03
06-17-2004, 10:01 AM
MOD touring on oval??? What is this world coming to??? If Paul was a real man he'd get an Associated 1/10 oval car and come out and play!! (right RAY) :)Been there, done that, not much of a challenge. No offence to the oval guys I know it is a lot harder than it looks. Got 5th or 6th in the Bmain Mod 1/10 at the carpet oval nats with a car that was no good and a body that did not work. Went to classic racing weekly and won almost everytime. Frank was the only good competition there. We had some good battles.

Paul

rayhuang
06-17-2004, 10:09 AM
GUys-soomeone help me-I will NEVER again try and run an Oval Race on two nights preparation!! I need a wing wire mounting kit for my 1/10th pan car. The kind that mounts to the tabs hanging off the pod. I need everything but the wing-which I bought (BUds). if anyone is seeing Bud or has an extra-please hook me up Friday afternoon!!

David Usnik
06-17-2004, 10:19 AM
Ray,

1/12 scale rocks! The car's in the ballpark. By the end of the night, I was running lap times that would have been competitive with Danny and Pete. I just have to run more of them in a row. That should come with time. It's so nice having a car go where you want it to, when you want it to. I had alot of fun last night just driving the car and not worrying about changing 112 different things to get it to work. I was actually able to get into a rythem with the car. Just like the old days. The upcoming Fall/Winter season is going to be fun! Ray Adams I think is hooked as well. He seemed to have a good time with his 12.

joneser
06-17-2004, 10:29 AM
Now that you are running lap times with Danny and Pete, you can shoot for someone that is good;)


Just kidding, I just can't pass up an oportunity to poke a little fun at the brothers Medved.

Pete...if fantasy racing was a race, how many laps down would you be?:freak:

Would you guys happen to know who is in first?

See Ya Friday

The F'n Blue Car
Ray,

1/12 scale rocks! The car's in the ballpark. By the end of the night, I was running lap times that would have been competitive with Danny and Pete. I just have to run more of them in a row. That should come with time. It's so nice having a car go where you want it to, when you want it to. I had alot of fun last night just driving the car and not worrying about changing 112 different things to get it to work. I was actually able to get into a rythem with the car. Just like the old days. The upcoming Fall/Winter season is going to be fun! Ray Adams I think is hooked as well. He seemed to have a good time with his 12.

rayhuang
06-17-2004, 10:34 AM
Dave,


Well-I am happy. That little car took a lot more time than I thought it would to build, but now the work is all worth it. I am glad you lik it. Feel free to call to debrief if you care to. Better to ask your questions while your runs are fresh in your mind. Thats What RB and I do after every race/practice-we talk through every change and how it affected the car-good or bad.

Yes-the Fall Season will be intense between all of us in both 12th and Sedan!!! I am really-really looking forward to a great 2004/2005 carpet season.
Ray
Ray,

1/12 scale rocks! The car's in the ballpark. By the end of the night, I was running lap times that would have been competitive with Danny and Pete. I just have to run more of them in a row. That should come with time. It's so nice having a car go where you want it to, when you want it to. I had alot of fun last night just driving the car and not worrying about changing 112 different things to get it to work. I was actually able to get into a rythem with the car. Just like the old days. The upcoming Fall/Winter season is going to be fun! Ray Adams I think is hooked as well. He seemed to have a good time with his 12.

sg1
06-17-2004, 10:37 AM
I forgot Paul WAS an oval guy..... now he's too good for it.... lol....

chicky03
06-17-2004, 10:44 AM
I forgot Paul WAS an oval guy..... now he's too good for it.... lol....
:D :D

David Usnik
06-17-2004, 10:50 AM
Now that you are running lap times with Danny and Pete, you can shoot for someone that is good;)


Just kidding, I just can't pass up an oportunity to poke a little fun at the brothers Medved.


It's okay to take shots at the Medveds. They dish out enough of them out on the track themselves.

joneser
06-17-2004, 10:54 AM
I am guessing that the first thing that you two need to do when you talk is figure out which car you are running at that point;)
It may go something like this.

Ray: Rob....I ran all 8 of my touring cars tonight. I think I had a bad speedo in all of them because they just were not fast. The couple that were fast did not handle well so it could be a radio problem.

Rob: Hey Brutha....my pimped out xray was flat Dialed baby. It was money! I was 2 tenths faster than the Pro 4 which was 2 tenths faster than the tc3 which was 2 tenths faster than the mission 2....ding dong....hold on Ray...the UPS guy is here with my RC Lab and Losi stuff.

Ray: Hey Rob...I have yet to figure out how Jones was so damn fast with the xray. I mean he had a stock chassis on the car and he finished building it at the track. I kick his A$$ at the big races but at the club races he passes me like I am running a radio shack car....hey wait, I have yet to try one of those. Do you have jason's number....sweet...a BMI radio Schack ride!

Rob: If you get the radio shack ride, please grab me one too....I will do some testing. I am however running out of room to gain that 2 tenths...my lap times are down to 6 seconds.

Ray: Oh well I am out of here....have to go work on the oval car, the Matt Francis Losi, the 10th scale pan car, the gas car, my 3 12th scale cars, and the brp....there is a slight chance that I can get parolled and will be able to attend the race.

Sorry guys! I could not pass up the opportunity for a little humor at your expense...I cant say much as I have spent a ton recently as well...unfortunate for AJ's there was no big margin items:freak: . Ray, I do have some info from last night that may help with the xray.
Dave,


Well-I am happy. That little car took a lot more time than I thought it would to build, but now the work is all worth it. I am glad you lik it. Feel free to call to debrief if you care to. Better to ask your questions while your runs are fresh in your mind. Thats What RB and I do after every race/practice-we talk through every change and how it affected the car-good or bad.

Yes-the Fall Season will be intense between all of us in both 12th and Sedan!!! I am really-really looking forward to a great 2004/2005 carpet season.
Ray

David Usnik
06-17-2004, 10:58 AM
Eric,

How much are tickets to your show tonight? :-)

rayhuang
06-17-2004, 11:07 AM
LOL Funny-thats exactly how our conversations go!!

Ray
p.s. Spread the good info my brutha!!

uspancarchamps
06-17-2004, 11:13 AM
Uspancarchamps-I sure did. Havent ventred over to your forum n awhile-sorry.

my hyperdrive is here tomorrow. So looks like just stopping out to pick up the Xray Fk and maybe buy a Novak discharge tray andd go home and wrecnh the rest of the evening on the car!!

How much are the Nova Trays Jimmy?

Ray

Dont worry ray, it aint goin anywhere! Come on over when you get a few minutes. Oh and we do have oval sections and are tryin to get some LTO guys to come over and post, so if you know of any, tell em about it!