View Full Version : Cleveland Style at the Gate #2
erock1331 06-10-2004, 02:14 PM No -- but I have raced Steve at Freddie's and HobbyTown-- he is FAST!
Yep I wanted to battle Steve at Freddie's but my Mini-T did not have a mod motor and Li-poly's and he was running mod. He definately has a good wheel.
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 03:13 PM erock1331-I am going to call EA and see if I can borrow a car for this race. I take it 12th scales are MUCH harder to drive in oval than say a 4-cell 1/10th car?
Also-can you tell me some of the tire compounds youd recommend for a stock 1/10th 4-cell car for the Gate? An educamateded guess is fine :lol:
losidude44857 06-10-2004, 03:51 PM Ohh i know Eric, but everyone had to throw laptimes in, so i had to throw mine in...LOL. How much are those X-Rays with everything you got?
-Buddy
joneser 06-10-2004, 03:58 PM Buddy, the only things on that car that did not come with the kit were the front diff.. (which is like 35-40 bucks)...the sway bar...and the spring steel front axles....which are a must. the kit is anywhere from 299.00 to 329.00. Dont run out and do anything. Yes, the car is good...lets see how it goes. The car is easy to drive like a losi but fast...fast as a tc3...that remains to be seen but it has won some big races both stock and mod. You wont beat the quality of it. Get some of them at the Gate and Jimmy can start stocking parts!!! I think you will see a few more around before fall!
joneser 06-10-2004, 04:02 PM Buddy...I did not want to rain on your parade...you are doing awesome. Just a few weeks ago you were bouncing off the walls in the lower heats and today you are racing in our heat. Yeah Paul and Aaron arent there but the Punk (jimmy) is fast! You were a rocket early on that race....just need to control it a little better. Like I told you, you will be fast with the tc3...but there will be days that it is out to lunch! Keep up the good work.
Also, I am giving you a hard time about choking but you just like in golf or other sports...you need to choke a few times to learn how to control your nerves. I can stand over a 3 foot putt for good money without getting nervous. Get the lead at a clubraces and I develope the elvis shake sometimes. Have to get the experience!
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 04:04 PM $329.00 Buddy and all you need to buy is a diff. up front. The diff is either the FK for $43 or the stock one for only $30 SOME. jones' car was BONE STOCK.
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 04:11 PM JOneser-Josh has all his set-up sheets on his website now. www.cefx.net
Okay-JOneser-your car wasnt bone stock!! But the spring steel front axles are truly a must. Even though those front axles look Super light!!!
Ray
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 04:30 PM Buddy...I did not want to rain on your parade...you are doing awesome. Just a few weeks ago you were bouncing off the walls in the lower heats and today you are racing in our heat. Yeah Paul and Aaron arent there but the Punk (jimmy) is fast! You were a rocket early on that race....just need to control it a little better. Like I told you, you will be fast with the tc3...but there will be days that it is out to lunch! Keep up the good work.!he NEEDS to stop setting up his throttle like a lite switch or a snipers trigger!!!
bshields 06-10-2004, 04:45 PM Buddy...I did not want to rain on your parade...you are doing awesome. Just a few weeks ago you were bouncing off the walls in the lower heats and today you are racing in our heat. Yeah Paul and Aaron arent there but the Punk (jimmy) is fast! You were a rocket early on that race....just need to control it a little better. Like I told you, you will be fast with the tc3...but there will be days that it is out to lunch! Keep up the good work.
Also, I am giving you a hard time about choking but you just like in golf or other sports...you need to choke a few times to learn how to control your nerves. I can stand over a 3 foot putt for good money without getting nervous. Get the lead at a clubraces and I develope the elvis shake sometimes. Have to get the experience!
I made you choke everytime you tried! :freak:
joneser 06-10-2004, 04:55 PM Oh...look....a comment from the special education crowd :p
Brian...are you back from Vegas or have you not gone yet? Would love to get some pc help
I made you choke everytime you tried! :freak:
erock1331 06-10-2004, 05:03 PM erock1331-I am going to call EA and see if I can borrow a car for this race. I take it 12th scales are MUCH harder to drive in oval than say a 4-cell 1/10th car?
Also-can you tell me some of the tire compounds youd recommend for a stock 1/10th 4-cell car for the Gate? An educamateded guess is fine :lol:Ray as far a 1/12th versus a 1/10th I am not sure. I have never ran a 1/12 car for about 15 years. And I just drove it for a guy a couple times.
I would think with the car being smaller a 1/12th would be a bit more twitchy to drive than a 1/10th.
As far as tires for the oval race. If the bite is really down I would run 3 pinks and a purple right front.
Most flat tracks you can get buy with 3 whites and a gray or black Right front. At Beaver's flat track I ran a
LF - White
RF - Gray/Silver
LR - White
RR - Gray
and it worked pretty good.
I will probably start with 3 BSR whites and a BSR Gray/Silver RF.
I imagine with no groove in the track, the cars will tend to be loose.
If you do get a pan car to run, make sure you get a Protoform High Downforce (HD) Monte Carlo body with a big BRP(Buds) Superwing, take the bi-leval out, mounted as low as possible on the body without touching the trunk lid.
If you dont have the exotic compounds you might be able to run 3 greens and a black RF.
bshields 06-10-2004, 05:07 PM Oh...look....a comment from the special education crowd :p
Brian...are you back from Vegas or have you not gone yet? Would love to get some pc help
Im back from trip #1. I leave for Vegas again on 6/23-6/26. I'll be around after that.
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 07:52 PM Ray as far a 1/12th versus a 1/10th I am not sure. I have never ran a 1/12 car for about 15 years. And I just drove it for a guy a couple times.
I would think with the car being smaller a 1/12th would be a bit more twitchy to drive than a 1/10th.
As far as tires for the oval race. If the bite is really down I would run 3 pinks and a purple right front.
Most flat tracks you can get buy with 3 whites and a gray or black Right front. At Beaver's flat track I ran a
LF - White
RF - Gray/Silver
LR - White
RR - Gray
and it worked pretty good.
I will probably start with 3 BSR whites and a BSR Gray/Silver RF.
I imagine with no groove in the track, the cars will tend to be loose.
If you do get a pan car to run, make sure you get a Protoform High Downforce (HD) Monte Carlo body with a big BRP(Buds) Superwing, take the bi-leval out, mounted as low as possible on the body without touching the trunk lid.
If you dont have the exotic compounds you might be able to run 3 greens and a black RF.
Thanks-not sure what I am getting-except its a Hyperdrive 510-and I will install a GT7 and a JR 8450 digital servo, but I do have the pink rears, green left front and purple right front!!!
Should I run the receiver on 7.2 volts or will 4.8 be enough?
Thanks in advance for all the help
Ray
erock1331 06-10-2004, 08:00 PM In stock and 19T we dont run reciever packs, just strap the 4 cell pack in and let er fly
losidude44857 06-10-2004, 08:57 PM Thanks Eric, i have went a lap and some, faster with the TC3, and it is more me than the car...nerves. I just need to practice and try to get more consistent, the only problem is, is what you said "With the TC3, you dont know what car you are taking out of the bag" and i think that if the new X-Ray has the speed of the TC3 (obviously) and handles very consistently, like my Losi, that may be better for me, but for right now, and probably a while, i am gonna try and get better with the TC3.
-Buddy
fleetwood 06-10-2004, 10:02 PM Buddy,
Suggestion with your TC3. Go over the car after race day and rebuild it after a couple of race days. The only problem with that car is its inconsistency from week to week. If you stay on top of it you will have a much better experience.
RB
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 10:07 PM Buddy-I feel like I am in the movie Days of Blunder... YOu take 5 minutes against the clock your way-then you let me re-asjust your radio and you do 5 minutes my way and well see which run is faster!!! hahahaha!!!
If theres one thing Rich Oettinger, Bean, etc all drilled into my head ws to 1. Never let go of the wheel to center and 2. YOU drive the car-dont play with funky settings on the radio and speed control to artificially make it do what you want.
Fleetwood-and it doesnt hurt to buy about 20 inner hingeins at a time from BRP!!!
bean's my hero 06-10-2004, 10:08 PM To all,
The oval race will be June 18th which is a Friday night and the doors will open at 4:00PM We will start racing at 7:00PM
Micro: We would like to have jumps for the mini T's. We will fasion some up but We would love it if you brought yours as well. The more the marrier.
Thanks,
Jim
losidude44857 06-10-2004, 10:14 PM OK, thanks, and this wednesday i will run my car the first 2 practices with my radio setting and run your settings the 3rd run and 4th and we will see which one i am smoother and faster with, it will be kinda hard to say b/c the traction will come up later, but we will have to check it out. Thanks Rob, ill have to look at it after this wednesday and make sure it is all ready for the next raceday.
-Buddy
rayhuang 06-10-2004, 10:19 PM OK, thanks, and this wednesday i will run my car the first 2 practices with my radio setting and run your settings the 3rd run and 4th and we will see which one i am smoother and faster with, it will be kinda hard to say b/c the traction will come up later, but we will have to check it out. Thanks Rob, ill have to look at it after this wednesday and make sure it is all ready for the next raceday.
-Buddy
It will be fun. If I have time (i.e. I stop playing Xbox instead of wrenching) I'll build up my Tc3 again with a tub chassis I have here and see if I can go Joneser/Blystone quick on Wednesday night. :)
U-know-all we care about is beating Jimmy!!
Ray
bean's my hero 06-10-2004, 10:29 PM Not gonna happen for atleast two more weeks.
losidude44857 06-11-2004, 06:10 AM And whyh is that Jimmy?
-Buddy
erock1331 06-11-2004, 08:56 AM To all,
The oval race will be June 18th which is a Friday night and the doors will open at 4:00PM We will start racing at 7:00PM
Micro: We would like to have jumps for the mini T's. We will fasion some up but We would love it if you brought yours as well. The more the marrier.
Thanks,
Jim
Bummer,
I wish I kept my Mini-T. Maybe I can borrow my buddys for the oval race.
Jumps are cool
Jim,
Did you guys decide on how the track layout/dimensions will be?
We are all trying to too figure out what tires, gearing to start with.
And it kinda depends on how long the track is and how narrow/wide the turns are.
I dont want to come off as a pain in the rear but with only getting 3 hours practice it would help us out alot to know how the track is gonna look.
Thanks,
Eric
rayhuang 06-11-2004, 01:56 PM Eric,
My Hyperdrive is on the way. I dont have everythng I need so might be looking for some quick help next week! I am putting in an order today for the missing parts-but I am sure I'll forget something and friday the 18th is going to come up quick!!
DO you know if Walt has wolfe springs and other small parts like shock mounts, center and side springs, Monte Carlo or Pontiac HD bodies, shock rebuild kits for VCS, etc.??
Thanks,
Ray
erock1331 06-11-2004, 02:03 PM Ray you got mail
rayhuang 06-11-2004, 02:06 PM Also erock-I am ordering Wolfe #8 white springs and #10 Red front springs-does that sound about right? What center spring and side springs do you thik wil,l be ballpark?
erock1331 06-11-2004, 02:09 PM Ray check your mail I emailed you some setup tips
rayhuang 06-11-2004, 03:10 PM Eric,
We better get that Oval track now that I have ordred $$$ in tires and parts for the 510!! But-I have wanted to run oval for some time and I have two brand new SMC packs just begging to be run!!!
What diamater for fronts for a guy who only has two sets of tiresto run all night? And also what should I strive to set ride height o to start?
Ray
erock1331 06-11-2004, 03:35 PM Ray
For normal weekly racing I cut my tires to 2.33 indoor racing - 2.35 outdoor racing
BSR's rim is a bit bigger than most so you can let the tire go a bit larger.
Cutting them a bit bigger will get you more life out of the tire too.
If it was nats time I run them more like 2.22-2.25 range.
The ride height for indoor tracks, usually for banked I run .060 shim under the front blocks and a #3 ride height adjuster (rear axle bearing Holder) in the rear
For flat tracks, run .090 shim under the front blocks with a #2 up in the rear
This will drop the car even more
The key is to get the chassis to be level.
rayhuang 06-11-2004, 03:48 PM Cool-I can do that. At this time I can only tru the front tires, not the rear-so I'll set the rear at say 4mm and cut the fronts to level car with a 0.09 shims under arms!! I may or may not have the offset rear hubs-so I will forgo that tuning bit for now. It really doesnt matter as I will be in the Sportsman/novice class I think and holding on for dear life!!
Thanks,
Ray
Ray
For normal weekly racing I cut my tires to 2.33 indoor racing - 2.35 outdoor racing
BSR's rim is a bit bigger than most so you can let the tire go a bit larger.
Cutting them a bit bigger will get you more life out of the tire too.
If it was nats time I run them more like 2.22-2.25 range.
The ride height for indoor tracks, usually for banked I run .060 shim under the front blocks and a #3 ride height adjuster (rear axle bearing Holder) in the rear
For flat tracks, run .090 shim under the front blocks with a #2 up in the rear
This will drop the car even more
The key is to get the chassis to be level.
uspancarchamps 06-11-2004, 11:41 PM Hey ray, have you had a chance to run that pan sedan of yours recently? If so, how is it?
rayhuang 06-11-2004, 11:46 PM ONly ran the car one battery pack on the pad outside of work, but it was fast as can be!! I put some suntan lotion on the tires, but it was still push in and loose as a goose on-power-but what do you expect from a unprepared dusty surface. Its a shelf piece now that the "boss" banned all weekend racing for me till fall season kicks off at the Gate!!
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 11:59 AM Factory Kit XRAY
We will have the Factory Kit Xray instock on Wed. with a diff for the front of it. The car will be $289.95 and the diff will be $38.95. Anybody interested?
Jim
fleetwood 06-13-2004, 12:29 PM Jimmy,
SOLD................. Drop me an e-mail. fleetwoodracing@yahoo.com
RB Love
joneser 06-13-2004, 01:14 PM Jimmy....I may be interested in a second kit as well. How many you have coming?
Hey Ray.... Will Friday be an actual race or a practice night for oval???
losidude44857 06-13-2004, 02:57 PM Wayne- I think that we are actually racing...Ray, correct me if i am wrong.
-Buddy
rayhuang 06-13-2004, 03:25 PM JOneser-this is totally un RC related-but I see your on-Please check your PM's!!!
Thanks,
Ray
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 04:54 PM Oval Race: Wayne it is a race this Friday night.
Eric I will have two kits coming one for RB and one for you? maybe? Please let me know as I would like to get enough to have one on the wal.
Jim
losidude44857 06-13-2004, 06:43 PM so when are we changing the track for our regular racing?
-Buddy
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 07:10 PM Next Mon. or Tues. Buddy. Are you up for giving us a hand with changing it.
Jim
joneser 06-13-2004, 07:27 PM Jim....yeah...I guess I will take it....money I was not planning on spending but in the long run I guess it is smart. Buy a factory team...get the novak discharger for 50% off correct.Oval Race: Wayne it is a race this Friday night.
Eric I will have two kits coming one for RB and one for you? maybe? Please let me know as I would like to get enough to have one on the wal.
Jim
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 07:48 PM hmmmmmm
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 07:49 PM you just want the car no diff right
joneser 06-13-2004, 08:03 PM that is correct sir. When are you going to have the kits
you just want the car no diff right
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 08:16 PM Wed.
Jim
losidude44857 06-13-2004, 08:58 PM I doubt it, i am coming Wednesday, and more than likely on Friday, i dont know, just all depends on my money situation.
-Buddy
bean's my hero 06-13-2004, 09:48 PM You've got more money than you know what to do with, Last week you were talking about buying an XRAY!
Jim
losidude44857 06-13-2004, 10:32 PM I have got money, i just can't spend it right now, i got car payment, insurance, ect. And i just started a new job, and they hold off 2 weeks before paying you. So i dont get paid till this Friday. We'll see.
-Buddy
David Usnik 06-13-2004, 10:34 PM Who's coming to practice Wednesday night? Ray, Eric,..? Ray, I can't wait to try the little car. After watching the 24 Houres Du Mans, i'm all pumped up about driving a prototype/pan car. I may need some 1/12 scale technical assistance.
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