any of you ran a pro 3 at the gate? i need some setup help. cant afford to get a tc3 yet, so i gotta run what i've got. its my first time on the carpet.


the lonely pro 3 racer.
As I understand it-the Pro3 is quite flexible-so you will need to work to take traction away from your car. YOu may need to run limiters in your shocks to stop unwanted uptravel. How large of limiters will depend on your tire size and other factors. Lets say your car is sitting at 5mm ride height-you will want llimiters in your shock so that the front of the car can only be lifted ay 3mm before wheels leave the ground. IN the back-you can also strat at 3mm lift.

It may also be beneficial on your car to run a bit smaller tires (say smaller than 2.4" in diameter). Outside of that-try to run in the range of 60 to 70 wt oil in frnt and 40 to 50 wt in the back and find some pretty stiff springs. Say something like an associated yellow spring up frnt and purple in the back.

Keep car low to the ground too-like 5mm, but no lower than 4mm. Keep checking it as tires wear down.

ill try that. thanks

I am not sure if anyone is in need of a TC servo but i have a couple of servos that I will be taking to Ebay in the next couple of days. I have a pair of Airtronics servos 94758. These are high speed, digital, metal gear servos. Both were purchased in the last few months. One has 1 of the 4 ears off because it was in an HPI PRO 4. It will be fine without the ear but I will take 5.00 off in case you want to get a new case. $70.00. The other will be 75.00. These are the best servos airtronics sells....about 100.00 new. Let me know in the next couple of days if interested.

Later

Eric

What is the schedule for racing/practice at the Gate this weekend?

What is the schedule for racing/practice at the Gate this weekend?
Doors open at 8:00 a.m. Sunday for racing.

Practice Saturday at the Gate 10am till 6pm!!! Spread the word everyone!!!

Hey guys,
I have a question on battaries. I want to cycle some of my packs, but should I wait till after race day to do my "race" packs? Also, how many cycles should I do? Will any of this do anything for my battaries performce wise? Any info would help!
Thanks,
Jerry

If anyone is interested I have a cobra tire truer for sale. It is just like the one Goetz has in the tire room. I have 1/12 and tc arbors for it and it includes a carbide bit that rips through tires. post here if you are interested and I will bring it to the track sunday.

Paul

Hey Chris and Jimmy,

Thanks for the Saturday practice!! It really helped me to try some things-especially on my 12th scale. -Jimmy and Chicky-laying down the laptimes in practice-wow!! You gys better do us proud tomorrow!!

Ray

Hey guys,
I have a question on battaries. I want to cycle some of my packs, but should I wait till after race day to do my "race" packs? Also, how many cycles should I do? Will any of this do anything for my battaries performce wise? Any info would help!
Thanks,
Jerry

Jerry,

cycle your batteries about 3 or 4 days after racing them. GIve-em a chance to rest. YOu do one cycle and thats it. Charge-repeak, discharge and then write the info down. I assume your using a T30 or GFX?

If your just going to cycle them to cycle them-dont bother-run-em in practice.

it wont hurt-nor help your batteries performance-just lets you knw whats your best and worst packs.

Ray

I have the lrp 2 charger and it can cycle my packs I think it just charges them and then discharges them or is it discharge,charge and then discharge Yeah I think thats how it goes,Well anyways if I do that with all my packs what am I looking for in the numbers.And my charger can only discharge at 10 amps I do that with a cut off of 3.6 volts and that is all I do until I run them again.Is that ok or do I need to discharge them with something else so I can get better performance out of them.Just curious And mikey and I really appreaciate all your help and the help from kelly bean.and Dan medved and Jimmy, chicky.And It was nice to see that my car is capable of doing 13 sec. laps Thanks Kelly Now I can loose the excuse that my car prob.Is not set up as good or as fast as the fast guys.Boy it sounded nice hearing my name with 13 seconds after it.Thanks again for the help guys.
mike

Mike-I am no fan of discharging at low amp rates. I like 20 amps to 30 amps to dumnp a pack and I try and do it right after a run. I suppose for whats left in a pack at the end of a 8 mnute race-10 amps may suffice.

Yes-take them down to 3.6 voltsand then let them sit till a couple hours before you need them and tray them for 15 minutes or so-then charge back-up.

Theres lots of methods-just be consistent on every pack.

Hey all-man did i miss a good race day yesterday or what? Did I read right-Chubsrugby-22 5:07 whaaahoooo!!! Bean-is he back? Maybe!! Jimmy, Ray and Chicky-on another planet in Sedan. I sure hope that holds true through the Champs.

Can anyone on this thread confirm if they want a Monday and Tuesday to warm-up for the Champs at the Gate? Say 10am till 10:30 pm?

That's too much racing... I'm getting old Ray...

I'm already old.

I'm already old.
You guys are just kids. :lol:

It appears there is a small-but very determined group of 4 guys or so who want to practice at the Gate MOnday and Tuesday. I am now leaning towards doing it. I would like to hear from at least ONE person from Cleveland besides Blackstock whos going to use the time from 10am till I leave in the afternoon. Is there even one person who wants this besides three guys form Florida and Mike?

Someone chime in please!!

Ray, I can try too be there after work About 5-6pm mon & tue.

dan medved

Ray..
No can do here... Have to work for a living :(

If anybody has contact info for O'Tec could you e-mail it to me @ IanTypeGuy@hotmail.com ?

done!

Thanks Ray.

Ian-hows that pro4 treating you? I'll E-mail you!!

Ray

Hey Good luck to all the GATERS that are going to the champs this year! Show How cleveland does it! I wil be out to visit for a few days but then I will be off to school in dallas. so GOOD LUCK to the locals! :thumbsup:

The Gaters have certainly worked hard since last November-lets hope it was enough.

There is practice at the gate Satuday 10am till 6pm and Racing Sunday (always has been a great club race!!) and then Practice Monday 10am till 10:30 pm and again on Tuesday. Doors open 10am Tuesday and will emain open till 10:30 unless everyone goes to the track to check in.

Yes good luck to all in the Cleveland area going to the champ's!!
Let's show them what we have ! See You there
:) :) :thumbsup:

Good luck to the entire Gate Crew this weekend. This is the one you practice for all year. Make it a good one..........

RB Love

well-I got to run a few last packs in my sedan and ended the day with it feeling awesome-I am looking forward to the Champs even more now. I hit a couple things hard today though -so of course i am now paranoid and will need to go over it with a fine tooth comb.

Ray

One run Ray Ray. That's all you need.......

RB

hi there everyone im just curious where Gate is? i could probly read through the 55 pages but i hope you dont mind just tellin me instead :) thanks in advance.

joe ivo

It's located at Southgate USA, in Maple Heights. I don't know the exact mailing address...

happy turkey day!!!

Guys, anyone know where i can send a card or something to Dave Morrow, Christine was at the nats today and talked to Ray and he told her what happened, I would like to send flowers, a card anything, Please leave a post here or call me 440-821-8622, I will be in classes tomorrow, I am still in texas. Also Ray huang call me I have a present for you from Yang lai, Jonser yang says hi to you too.

Champs Week....In review. (warning...this will be long)

I am not sure what I am still doing up since I have had such little sleep since Tuesday night. I thought I would give an update on the champs.

First off, lets just say that the Gate "represented" this week. Its very apparent that our practice and dedication have started to pay off. Here is some of what happened.

Aaron Buran had his touring car in the B main and his 12th scale in the B I believe. Aaron had the dubious distinction of having the best practice run in stock TC....looked like he would be the man to beat. He ran some times that nobody had seen to that point and dont beleive anyone had hit late in the week. The racing was so tight, he missed the A by 2 or 3 seconds and that put him down towards the bottom of the B.

Brian Rice.....Brian had a great weekend especially considering his qualifying heats. Brian ran with an individual that was clearly a novice and was turning lap times at about 2 times of the next slowest guys lap times. Somehow Brian was able to bump up to the 21st position and went on to win his C main touring heat from there. His rise up the 12th scale charts was also very good and he ended with the best run of his week.

Ray Huang (big race Ray)....All I can say is wow. That was incredible. Once again you spend 2 months chasing me and we go to a big race and you lay it down. Probably the most impressive performance of all the guys from the gate. Qualified 2nd in masters touring....Qualified 10th in masters 12th scale. 2 A mains is very impressive. Had some troubles in the main but finished 4th and 8th I believe. Great job!!! Read below for another incredible thing Ray did this weekend.

Jimmy....Jimmy had really only 1 run this weekend and this time its not really because he hit stuff. 1st heat he had some handling issues but made some changes and layed down a run that put him 4th or 5th in the A. Had radio glithes in 3rd round and ended up having to pull the car off in that heat. 4th heat was more of the same and he pulled off after only running a few laps. His fate rested in others hands. Unbelievibly he was bumped by hundreths of a second and was the BQ....trust me....it sucks!!! In the B main Jimmy may have had the fastest car but decided that he really wanted to get personal with the hairpin coming out of the sweeper....so he parked it 3 times. Good job Jimmy.

Chris Goetz.....first big race away from the gate and had it in the B for a while....ended up in the C main.....solid run for the first time out....also he did not break any cars in half this week so its a success.

Wise....solid running after he decided to run Jimmy's Xray!!! keep it Mike...you will get better with it!!!

Kelly....put his 12th scale in the show for the first time ever. Had a very fast car all week. TC was awesome in practice but not as good when qualifying got started. Qualified 3rd in the B main and put down a good run....his chasing me down was great entertainment for everyone.

Paul....well not much to say. was the class of the 12th scale stock for 3 rounds of qualifying....ended up getting bumped by our good friend Ray Darroch (spelling) from PA. hit a few too many things in the main but finished a strong second. In touring, he took a good car and dialed it out only to get it back for the main. had a solid run in the B main by finishing 3rd I beleive. Good Job

Wayne Gerber Jr.....qualified 4th in 12th scale and put on a good show in the A main....finsihed 1 or 2 spots behind Paul.

Ray and Zach adams had good weeks.....Ray put his tc in the B main of masters and his 12th in the C main of masters. Excellent Job. Zach on the other hand had his old man covered for 3 rounds of qualifying. Ray eventually pulled ahead but its was very impressive. Good job Zach and Ray.

T. Williams.....put together a few solid runs and saved his best 12th scale heat for his main.....way to step it up. Also did a great job as race director. Not sure what exactly he does, but whatever it was, he did it well.

Buddy....put together som pretty good runs...turned a few really fast laps! I finally tried one of his motors and all I can say is great work. First off, they dyno really well.....virtually every one of them. They are also great on the track. I almost took a Team Balls motor to the A main...I am a "ball"iever!

Medveds....did not see much of the medveds this week. they have decided to run stock so we were down at different times but heard their names over the TV a few times this week so things must of went well.

Others such as Ron Mick, Jason Markovich, Sporty, etc. All had some solid runs. Not sure where they finished but once again heard their names which means they were probably doing well.

Mike Blackstock.....TQ of 12th scale mod...played with the field all week but ran into a few things in the main. As always, looked like the best driver their. Vickie put it in the show but ultimately could not defend the title....still a solid week.

Mackin....probably a little dissapointed with his CQ spot....started on the pole and led wire to wire....drove great, car looked good! Good job

On a personal note, I was fortunate enough (or unfortunate) to be the BQ of both masters classes. I was in the A main after 3 rounds of masters touring and was bumped in the rocket round. Got on the stand knowing that I needed to put it in the show. Ran a really clean heat but ultimately was 11th qualifier.....1 second out of the show. In 12th scale...bumped from the C to the B and was sitting 18th. bumped to 13th after the 3rd round. Got on the stand knowing I needed to get it done and ran my best run. nicked only 2 boards and ran my best time....it was however 1 second out of the 10th spot again. In TC I had the lead from the horn but was chased down by a speedy Kelly Bean. Kelly raced me clean....tried to put on a move...I bumped a board...trying to defend and bumped into him. took a lead again but Kelly caught me and finished fractions of a second behind me. 12th scale...wrecked in the first corner....damaged the body, ran around for a few laps.....did not want to be the reason someone did not win so I pulled it off and became a spectator. Being 11th in both classes is extremely disappointing...especially since it was less than a second for both cars. I will say that when I think big picture, I am really happy...last year I won the D main of masters 12th scale....this year I beat a bunch of A main regulars and was top qualifier for the B main. .....great learning experience. I have to thank everyone that has helped me over the past year....especially Paul....thanks for teaching me some of the things that have made me improve. Its alot of work hanging out with you but its paying off. Next year I will go to the champs knowing I can put it in the show....I am tired right now but already looking forward to it.

As a group, I have to say that we worked great as a team. Team Parma and room 237 worked as a team all week. Brian was the best masters pit bitch Ray, Kelly and I could have. We all helped each other out with setup and anything else we needed. It was really a great week and I thank each of you a great deal. Brian and Ray.....I had a great time this weekend...we did well as a team...cant wait to do it again.

I had some unexplainable radio issues in a couple of heats, one of which cost me a spot in the show....I was well under the A main pace but had huge issues from mid race on. Jimmy was a great help and let me use his radio for the last two days. He ended up having the same problems that crushed any chance he had of the getting his spot back in the A......All I can say is that I cant wait for the new Spektrum module and receiver.

Nice guy Ray Huang (maybe not the brightest).....Ray has some great race packs that he gets from his sponsor SMC.....Ray was sitting 10th in the 12th scale rankings after 3 rounds and then offered me the use of one of the packs for my fourth and final qualifier....he did this knowing that I could knock him out of the A if I put together a good run. I stayed clean, picked up 4 seconds on my best time but ultimately missed Ray by less than a second. Classy act Ray....its much appreciated!

Finally, on a serious note.....It was announced at the track that our good friend Dave Morrow was rushed to the hospital Wed night with what has been reported as a stroke. While in the hospital he had another...not to mention they found something else very serious. From what we are hearing, Dave should be able to make a recovery. Dave sat in the hospital and worried how we all were doing at the race and sent us best wishes. Please keep Dave and his family in our thoughts and prayers. Its always fun racing with Dave....hopefully we will be doing more racing soon. Get well soon Dave!!!

Well, hopefully I did not leave anyone out. Just had to say what a great job everyone did. Once again great job bringing home hardware this weekend. I think we showed that we are one of the most competive and friendly places around. Our friends to the East (PA gang) also had a great weekend. Way to go guys....see everyone at the track.

Joneser,

Thanks for the detailed review.
It was good to see everybody did such a great job.
You guy's worked real hard to get where you are today.
Please keep Dave Morrow in our thoughts and prayers this holiday season.

Tracy :cool:

Great job to everyone who has worked hard these last few months. We did indeed represent. :thumbsup:

Dave Morrow - Get well. We need you back. R/C just won't be as friendly.

Gate,

Nice job guys. You were definitely well represented at the race. You all did great, but Mr. Huang qualifying in 2nd of Masters TC. Simply awesome.

I am very sorry to here about Dave Morrow. I hope all goes well and we see him racing again very soon. Get well bud...


RB Love

I hope everyone had a good time racing this weekend.

My touring car was horriable the first few rounds. My thanks to Tony Williams for getting me there on the setup of my car. Dan never seemed to get his working right all weekend. Dan missed the first round due to work, so he started off deep in the hole, and never really worked is way out with his TC.
Dan did get the 1/12th hooked up, and ran a number of respectable rounds. In his main with Tony W., he ran a very smart race. There was a very close race back in the 3rd, 4th and 5th spot, all within a turn of each other. Dan worked his way by and ran a clean line to hold on to 3rd.

Jason Markovich also gave me some pointers on my 1/12, which helped me free up my 1/12th scale, which seemed to take a few 100's of a second off of my lap times.

Thanks to everyone else who also helped out, Dave Usnik and Ray Longatino also stopped by and gave some help.

See you guys this weekend at the GATE!

Get well Dave Morrow, hope your back soon!

Pete

JOnes-nice write-up!!! Glad you did it-if I had-I'd still be trying to find all my typos!!!

I was sitting there in the rocket round waiting for you, Bill, James Arnold, Schoneau, maybe even Sweeney with Pauls car- to bump me out and thinking to myself-man-I am going ot be really pissed off when Jones bumps me out with my equipment. [OH-I am not sponsored by SMC-lets call it friendship (Danny is a super guy).]

Anyways-I am watching your run and only you because Bill tapped early, Jim was already in and I thought-Oh-crap-Eric's driving the race of his life and hes going to do it. YOu gave it everything you had and came ever so close!! I was very proud of you to step up to the plate and give it your all for 8-minutes!!

Thanks to everyone for helping me this weekend, and thanks to Jones, and Jimmy who ran my motors...almost putting them in the show:) To offroad it is, for a few weeks, i honestly dont wanna leave onroad so i decided to shorten my offroad leave to only a few weeks, come back with the TC3 and get ready for the new Losi, that thing looked Dialed all week. Any input on the car...and how will the short arms effect the car. They sure did look fragile though....:(
-Buddy
Team Balls...almost an official team....HAHA

Congrats to everyone who ran the Indoor champs. As a club we did awsome!!! Probably the strongest club as a whole for top finishes at the race.

So who's ready for 19T 1/12 and TC? I would like to run the Chameleon and Reedy 19t as a motor since that is that they will be using at the novak race. A few people from the club pan to go to the race so it will be good testing for us.

I won't make the race this weekend but next sunday I plan to be there to race 19T.

Paul

Count me in for 19 t on Dec 12th. I'll even run full mod in 12th scale if anyone wants to.

It gets old everyone thanking Chicky-but there is a reason so thanks Chicky!! And an ever bigger thanks to Bean. Yeah-as a club-we watched each others backs and I know I didnt hide anything-in fact-I offered anything I had to our local racers so they could move up the heat board. I learned a lot from everyone-handling things, motor things, driving things....it was great!!

Maybe I should have strapped some Team Balls power in my sled-then maybe I wouldnt have been rear ended-eaten up and spit out into the board at the start of my main.... :lol:

Team Balls could have given you a little more rip, but too late now...lol. I think i did 2 motors for me, 4 for Jones, and 6 for Jimmy. Not counting all the rebuilds i did for Jimmy, and myself, too bad he only got 1 out of 4 runs in. Ray and Chicky, any input on the new Losi?
-Buddy

Team Balls could have given you a little more rip, but too late now...lol. I think i did 2 motors for me, 4 for Jones, and 6 for Jimmy. Not counting all the rebuilds i did for Jimmy, and myself, too bad he only got 1 out of 4 runs in. Ray and Chicky, any input on the new Losi?
-Buddy
Ummmmm-well-lets just say I think I might have one next year too. But-I also thought a RDX was in my nnear future, but I am sort of thinking the Xray aint so bad......and I need to STOP spending money on RC cars for a few months. Just tires and brushes!!!

Im not worried about how the car is going to handle, i am worried about the same problem with the XXXS....SPEED! I just couldnt seem to get my XXXS up to speed, and i dont wanna spend $350 and have it be slow....
-Buddy

Buddy,

The Losi car will be fine. Rip is so much dependent on setup. Soon, the setups will be abundant, but you'll still have to apply them with good execution. With slop all over the place, air in the shocks, and lack of symetry about the car, it will drive nothing like it was supposed to. The JRXS is also very sensitive due to the stiff chassis, and short levers (arms and links). I think it will require careful attention to be consistent run after run.

Are you up for the challenge, sissy boy? :eek:

What is this Team Balls all about?

Okay, who stole NORCAR's website?

Yea, I saw that, whats up?

dan

Yeah, i think that with a brand new car i will pay more attention to "slop" and more setup issues than i have with my TC3. And plus Chris, you can always help with it:)
-Buddy