So how is everyone? The only people I have seen from the gate is Joneser, Brian V. and Jen B., no one else wants to show me some love? LOL anyways hope to see you guys soon, drop a line tell me you all are doin fine and hope everyone had a Happy halloween!

David, I ruined it. :lol: She had called me early, but having not received a reply, decided to hang out with a friend about a 1/2 hour away. By the time I called her (thank God for redial function on my phone, since I had lost her number) it was too late. But all is not lost. :thumbsup:

Also, Jimmy has Xray T1FK's on the wall for a ridiculous low price of around $289. If you can wait a few weeks, Ray Hoohong will likely be selling his. ha! It really all depends on whether or not RBLove can get it to work well at the Gate. :tongue:

Good running this weekend. I am anticipating a new layout. Please come out and help us Thursday if you are not busy.

Jim - I will not be running NORRCA this weekend.

Also, Jimmy has Xray T1FK's on the wall for a ridiculous low price of around $289. If you can wait a few weeks, Ray Hoohong will likely be selling his. ha! It really all depends on whether or not RBLove can get it to work well at the Gate. :tongue:
Nah-Xray for awhile longer. Everyone has just got to realize things arent like they used to be. The fast guys are even faster than last year. Why???? I think its because the next tier of drivers have stepped it up and the fastest guys quite frankly are utilizing there talent to a higher degree.

Its gotten so competitive that self doubt and doubt in your equipment is always in the background..... I mean-many dropped the TC3 because quite honestly Joneser and I too really flew with them....... Now the TC3 is back in the hands of Mo and Chris and its only natural to think "Hmmmm...maybe I should try the Tc3 again."

Ray

Pete, you will love the xray, It seems like it is much more forgiving than a TC3. TC3 is very fast but I am glad that I switched. I dont see myself changing for some time. Jimmy has a great price on the kit just keep in mind that it has a front oneway and you need a diff. Throw a rubberneck bumper on there and off you go. We are all running custom chassis but my opinion is that it is probably not needed....especially our staggered battery chassis. Jeff Cuffs put a 100% stock xray in the show at the halloween race and I liked mine with the stock chassis on it. If you have any questions, just ask.

Well Im here now......Ok all is well.....I will be leaving.......but....I will....be back.....

Hey Guys,

Just to let everyone know Thursday night practice has been canceled. We will be laying down a new track design on Thursday night instead. We could use your help in doing this. If you can help come on out around 6:00PM and give us a hand.

Thanks,
Jim
Jim, I should be able to make it.

What is Mr.Bill's e-mail, I need to know if I can still get into the Champs for 12th scale.
Thanks,
Jerry

I agree with Joneser-of course-but I do think the BMI 350 chassis is a great addition to the FK. But-a few weeks in stock form should be fine. I am starting to find it difficult to stay within 0.2 to 0.3 sec per lap of Paul, Chris, Mo and I think I was more on a level playing field with the 350 chassis than my current split chassis.

You'll be in heaven your first drive with the car. Its that awesme. Smooth-consistent and is the same every run.

I agree with Joneser-of course-but I do think the BMI 350 chassis is a great addition to the FK. But-a few weeks in stock form should be fine. I am starting to find it difficult to stay within 0.2 to 0.3 sec per lap of Paul, Chris, Mo and I think I was more on a level playing field with the 350 chassis than my current split chassis.

You'll be in heaven your first drive with the car. Its that awesme. Smooth-consistent and is the same every run.
Perhaps on Thrusday, I will leave with the X-Ray if there is still one on the wall. Still not sure yet, but still leaning to the new ride. It really just comes down to the Dollars issue . . . which has never really stopped me before. I am sure I will be very please with the new car. I'm just hope that IF I do get it, that I will have it race ready for the Indoor Champs. I know everyone will help me out with the setup, and get me in the ballpark.

We shall see . . .

Front ball diffs are out of stock Pete. But -lo and behold-I have 4 spares!!! yes 4. YOu can borrow one to start running the car and use it as long as you want. Just get me rings and balls for it when you return it. I just rebuilt two of them to get ready for Champs.

Ray

Perhaps on Thrusday, I will leave with the X-Ray if there is still one on the wall. Still not sure yet, but still leaning to the new ride. It really just comes down to the Dollars issue . . . which has never really stopped me before. I am sure I will be very please with the new car. I'm just hope that IF I do get it, that I will have it race ready for the Indoor Champs. I know everyone will help me out with the setup, and get me in the ballpark.

We shall see . . .Pete,
Buy everything you can now! You only have until April to spend what you have! Soon, "your" money becomes "our" money. Actually, to be more accurate, "her" money. Then you'll be playing a new game called hide n' seek. Your going to find yourself hiding new battery packs, motors, chargers, dynos, etc... "No honey, honestly, i've had these for at least a couple of years.":devil:

I think you will do very well with the X-ray. It is more durable, and the boys seemed to have a decent setup on it from the start. At least when the grip is low. :tongue:

Do it!

Do it!

I saw you said your shop has X-rays on the wall,Do they do Pay-pal and ship if so can you send me a link.THX

John Tag-no website-its a trackside hobby shop-BUT-Jimmy does sell on e-bay too-so I am sure he'll see your post today and get back to you. Maybe post your e-mail address so Jimmy can get back to you at night.

Ray

Ray- I will more than likely not be able to make it sunday....so i will have your motor next time i am there.
Brian V- Same thing, ill get them done and get them to you next time i am there, sorry about this.
-Buddy

Ray- I will more than likely not be able to make it sunday....so i will have your motor next time i am there.
Brian V- Same thing, ill get them done and get them to you next time i am there, sorry about this.
-Buddy

YOU SON-OF-A B.... !
I'll let you off this time but next time your losing a finger or a toe.
(j/j)

Ray- I will more than likely not be able to make it sunday....so i will have your motor next time i am there.
Brian V- Same thing, ill get them done and get them to you next time i am there, sorry about this.
-Buddy No problem-with the NORRCA Nats @ Halo-I was thinking of finally running 19t or mod Sunday. It will be good to just wheel around a ballistic car for a weekend and have some laughs.
OH-yeah-so Wayne-tell Tyler heres his chance to lay the smack down this weekend. Chambers-your coming right? I guess well both be chasing that 13.8 lap time!!

Ray

Pete,
Buy everything you can now! You only have until April to spend what you have! Soon, "your" money becomes "our" money. Actually, to be more accurate, "her" money. Then you'll be playing a new game called hide n' seek. Your going to find yourself hiding new battery packs, motors, chargers, dynos, etc... "No honey, honestly, i've had these for at least a couple of years.":devil:
Humm . . . interesting, I hope to continue to keep my personal account, for my "discressional spending" but just incase, perhaps you can give me some of your lines to use on Eryn. I promise I wont tell Deb!

Well I must be invisible cuz I tried to see whats up with you all but I guess I will just have to read since my posts get no attention. Is it just because I havent been comming lately? Work has kept me. Or is it I am out of the loop with you guys now? 3 posts now and no replies, not even smart ass ones. Amazing, then you wonder why people arent comming like they used to. Bet that gets some replies.

That's funny Jay, I asked if anyone had Mr. Bill's e-mail and I got no replies. I might be sitting in the same boat as you. Is it that I don't run there anymore? One of the reasons I don't go to the Gate is cuz Halo runs on Saturday and I want to watch football on Sundays. When the footbal season is over, you can bet that I will be at the Gate every weekend. I don't often repley to stuff like this and I hope nothing comes out of it. I have enjoyed every time I have gone to the Gate. There are alot of great drivers to learn from out there. Honestly, I can't wait to get back there. Nothing wrong going to Halo, if any of you guys want a great place for a change, go there.
Well enough of that,
Jerry

John Tag:

Sorry but the X-ray kits that I HAD, have been sold!

Jim

Fuzzy, do you remember what weight shock oil you had in your touring car?

Dan Medved

The thoughts and/or opinions expressed by Joneser are not necessarily the opinions of track ownership and have been paid for by the comittee for answering stupid comments.

Jay...you are correct, that will get some responses....your a jackass.

you put a post out there that says sorry guys for not coming out there...been working alot. I think that is the same thing you said the last 10 times. "Sorry"....like we were going to pack up and go home because you werent there. Sure we would love more racers, competition is great. So I will ask what would you like posted....what would make you feel better. Here is an attempt at a response.. Oh boy Jay...sorry you not coming and complaining about the track layout not being changed or the price of the racing. You have had plenty to say and you have been there a grand total of lets see....uh....0 times. Come to the track and race....you can get help with your cars and people will be friendly. Sit back on the web and throw out stupid comments without showing up and I guess you wont get any responses. I will however will work on my responses for you. My next response will be......Hey Jay.....its great hearing from you. Sorry your not coming to the track....do you have any changes that you would like me to relay to Jimmy. Maybe we should change the track for you since you probably have perfected this one. Well....I hope to see you out there soon so you can complain that you are in the first touring car heat after not racing for a year. Oh well, talk to you later.:thumbsup:

Hookups......Bill is not associated with the track and I doubt that anyone is in communication with him....other than Tony Williams and I dont ever see him lurking around here.....I dont know his email but have seen it somewhere on this board or RCtech. It could be in this thread for all I knowgo back a few pages and see. As of yesterday, there was still spots available according to Tony Williams. You not getting responses has 0 to do with you not being there. I know I dont have access to this at work anymore so I dont get to see Gems like Jays until I get home.

Its posts like Jay's that get things started. If Jay ever showed his face at the track to race or maybe even pick up his special order from 2 months ago then his comments could maybe have an ounce of merit...but they dont. He doesnt get responses because they dont care to respond to someone full of opinions on how to improve the place when he does not come to the place. The people wanted practice moved and it was moved races are moved up or back in order to accomodate the poeple with families....etc. I have nothing to do with the track (other than donating time) but its a great place to race. Great competition for all levels of racer and if you truly want help and will listen, you can learn alot about your car from many people there. My recent success is a perfect example. 2 years ago I knew nothing....but I "paid my dues" and listened to the experts.

For those of you who will read this and think I am being harsh....I guess you can join the crowd that rooted against me this week in 12th scale race that I was in the process of running. If I have to be the villian than so be it. The track owners cant say that because it will look bad...I dont mind if you guys dont like it you probably dont like me anyways. :wave:

Humm . . . interesting, I hope to continue to keep my personal account, for my "discressional spending" but just incase, perhaps you can give me some of your lines to use on Eryn. I promise I wont tell Deb!
But I might :p

dan

Jimmy, call me on my cell in 10 minutes it is currently 5:48

That is some funny shiat.I had to read it to my wife and she even got a kick out of it.

The thoughts and/or opinions expressed by Joneser are not necessarily the opinions of track ownership and have been paid for by the comittee for answering stupid comments.

Jay...you are correct, that will get some responses....your a jackass.

You just proved the arrogance and pompass attitude that most people wont tell you that you have. I was there for the season opener race and a few practices and races over the summer,But due to scheduling I couldnt make all the summer practices and races, Since placing my order I Have been in contact with jimmy about "my special order" no ones business but mine and Jimmys, it was unproffesional of him to talk to you or to Losi dude about it. I was a dedicated Bratenhal member(funny how much junk you talk to the person who got you started in all of this racing hmmm, ME), I used to school you and a few others alot there. Even when I came back when the gate was upstairs I had finshed ahead of you several times. Not all of us have the bankroll you have and actually have to work odd schedules. Second "King Jones" as your knick name that flys around from your fellow racers that they wont say to your face as to not hurt your feelings, I wasnt looking for a pitty party, I asked how everyone was doing trying to keep in touch with everyone from the track, since I havent been able to make it. My point, If i wouldnt have put something up here super opionated I dont think anyone would have still responded. I figured it wouldnt get a response unless it was they way i put it. And it did get a response! the person who always has a comeback for me or anyone YOU!. I never asked you to give jimmy any Ideas, any Ideas or comments I have had I either left here or told jimmy myself. I have never said I could perfect any track anywhere so I dont know where that comment came from or for the fact that I am not in the first Heat. I understand that people who have been able to practice this year are better than myself and I have never claimed otherwise, But unlike you, you have said" your too good to run with us at the hObbytown track, Because they arent good enough. Funny though when your face to face with me away from the gate you actually talk to me about stuff at the track but there or on here your usually rippin me or someone else in fun or not. More people share my opinion than who dont, I still race there when I can but lately I cant. Any ways, in the majority the people at the Gate are good people! You will have attitude and jerks wherever you go to race, and it only takes a few to ruin it for everyone. Anyone else have any comments?

That is some funny shiat.I had to read it to my wife and she even got a kick out of it. Its actually pretty sad! that is one of your A mainers dogging some one that expressed there opinion like that, I feel he just proved my point form a while ago, About the attitude of some people there is why some wont race there(not me, mine is work) but some. Instead of reading a new post on an old subject reread some of the old posts when Jimmy was crying about how the track needed people to come out and what kind of ideas would help. Anyways C ya.

Well I dont know either of you ,I just thought it was funny in a sarcastic joking kind of way.

mike

Well I dont know either of you ,I just thought it was funny in a sarcastic joking kind of way.

mike It is funny but sad as well. Do you race at the gate? Is this Chubsrugby?

Jay, I edited this post because much of this is old and doesnt belong here. I will stand by my original ball busting and add only a few things.

1. Please think about what you are saying when you talk about the track and whos is saying what to you. To be perfectly honest with you there are very few people who know you there especially by Mr. Tamiya. The ones that do know you have some of the same feelings but are smart enough not to say anything. Your comments concerning us changing the track and a few other things were just laughed at because you dont run there...it give no credibility to the statements. I wont continue on here but would be more than willing to discuss more with you.

2. I am not sure who this group of people is that wont run at the gate because of the people but I have a pretty good Idea. When I first started going to the brat, I found it very intimidating....nobody offered any help and some people made it unpleasant when you approached them. The "club" went through many changes and in came the gate and the people that put their time and effort on the line to give us a place to race. The first year we heard more complaints about the temperature in the room and less about having a great place to race. SOme of the old school guys dropped off for a number of reasons. then a funny thing happened...people started helping each other and having fun at the track and on here. Ray Huang has always been one of the nicest guys around and willing to help....but ask a few of these people who wont race there and you will here some BS story about how its not friendly. fast forward to now and we have differnt people running it and a whole bunch of new racers. We also have way more poeple willing to lend a hand. Maybe they wont have to wait 2 years or 3 years to get some attention. The bottom line is that many of theses guys have stopped racing all together or just stopped coming and we wont get them back. We need to keep new racers coming in and your comments dont help that. I wont let it go without challenging it...once again because your not there.

3. I wont worry about my reputation, I have helped a ton of people out by giving time, enchoragement, and or equipment. I have given bodies away, tires away and try remember what my first few years were like. If people want to rip on me and call me King Jones....fine....just do me a favor and let me know who you are. I wont hit you or say anything to you. I just want to see if its anyone that I have spent time with or said great run to. I dont want to waste my time anymore with them if thats the case. I am not pompous or arrogant at all...but I am also not mr. happy and I know how it comes across and dont care. just understand that I know I am no better than anyone else.

4. My comments about not racing at hobbytown were taken out of context and I wont even explain after editing this. I fully enjoyed racing there but the time it takes on that day and the time it takes to change the car back is not something I am willing to do. I wont continue on that point but your comments are not what I said and I would not be afraid to say exactly what was said.

I win....worlds longest post!!!!


Later...

"king jones";)

I win....worlds longest post!!!!


Later...

"king jones";) OK ;)

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Well I must be invisible cuz I tried to see whats up with you all but I guess I will just have to read since my posts get no attention. Is it just because I havent been comming lately? Work has kept me. Or is it I am out of the loop with you guys now? 3 posts now and no replies, not even smart ass ones. Amazing, then you wonder why people arent comming like they used to. Bet that gets some replies.
Actually, our turn out has been ok, but not as much as I expected. I also made the comment to Danny that there hasn't been much chatter on the Indoor Champs even. Perhaps it is because the Halloween classic was held earlier this year. That has always been a jumping off point to the winter season. Everyone getting "geared" up for the big races.

Pete...turnout overall is down for a number of reasons...we dont have guys like Rowell, Brand, Urban, etc. These guys have been regulars for years...some stopped last year some this year. Many have found other things to keep them busy. Toledo has probably occupied a few people and the off road track in Medina was kept open late this year which probably accounts for a few people.

Fuzzy, do you remember what weight shock oil you had in your touring car?

Dan Medved
Dan,

I think it was 60wt in all four shocks. :confused: I tried so many different setups in that car. That's part of the reason why i'm not running touring this year.

Dan,

I think it was 60wt in all four shocks. :confused: I tried so many different setups in that car. That's part of the reason why i'm not running touring this year.
YOu cannot go wrong with 60 up front and #3 pistons and 50 wt. rear and #2 pistons.

whynot-MIkey was complaining of traction rolls and tipping up in the Main. Take some time on the truer and cut his rears down a bit at a time till you can get back of car level with front again, but with the axle one position lower. This should help the situation. Also-when fiiinsihing truing, round the edges nicel and that sould help too keep car feeling smooth.

Bring car to me Sunday after cutting tires and resetting rideheight and I'll help you redo rollout and tweak.

Ray

Actually, our turn out has been ok, but not as much as I expected. I also made the comment to Danny that there hasn't been much chatter on the Indoor Champs even. Perhaps it is because the Halloween classic was held earlier this year. That has always been a jumping off point to the winter season. Everyone getting "geared" up for the big races. I never said people werent going, what i said and meant was that alot of the people who used to go dont anymore, we used to have 70+ entries before the champs in touring alone and from what i have seen its not been like that. and the word on the street still is that the gate isnt Newbie friendly for whatever reason, competition level too high, rude people, tension, and others, I also hear great things about the gate, which I myself try and push when people start talking poorly of the place and the people, Even though I havent been there lately I still consider it my Home track, Like i said before its where i started(back when it was in bratenhal and you and your Bro were running the show).

I think a little bit more of word of the mouth about the track and maybe a little more advertising may help things out. With Halo going strong now I know people will be going there to race on Sats and have Sunday off.

I love the track and wish I could race more but traveling and working 2 jobs gets kinda hard. Buddy, Ray, Chris, Paul, Aaron and others have been helping me (Which I am very appreciative about) and that is great, got a great car just need to drive better.

The track is getting more competitive and a little away from fun since I started racing but that is probably due the the halloween race and the indoors coming up. I say that because as Buddy and I walked out the doors to leave Eric and Paul were going at it and cussing back and forth. Granted I got a little peved (voiced my opinion) in my main since father time marshal could not get the lead out of his depends but it is only racing - if cash or title were up for grabs then it is a different story.

I would like to see some different racing - like an endurance race, oval race, pro-am race where a newbie is hooked up with a seasoned racer for the day to hone skills and learn many things about racing, cars, etc, reverse racing where we run the course backwards to what we have been.

You guys have fun this weekend, have to do something with the dear old Dad and finish going thru the tc3 to get it ready for the big race. Any ideas on what tires to run at the race?

See ya later

MC

Jay, I edited this post because much of this is old and doesnt belong here. I will stand by my original ball busting and add only a few things.
Funny you edited your post, i wont name any names, but if they feel they want to call you King jones to your face Great if not great! Eris you talk as If i never existed there or people domt know me, Lets see, the originals now me, Ray W. Ray and Zach A., Tracy R., Pete and Dan M., Mog, Usnik, Geotz, Jimmy, Tony carruba, Tony williams, Chuck mackin, Brian V .and Jen B. Vicki and mike B, buddy B. wayne G. The list goes on and on, Maybe they dont all realize that Mr-tamiya is Jason Johndro,I dont now what your trying to prove. i bring in cinstructive critisism and it gets twisted into well your not here you dont come blah blah blah. I am there when I can be, When the club said they were having trouble with entiries over summer I mad every attempt to be at ever race and practice after that, and what did that get me flack for bringing the kids to race and practice with me except from a few who appreciated there marshalling. i have much respect from majority if not all of the racers there. especialy the ones who keep it going, You can care and not have to be there all the time as you imply to matter, The fact that I have been racing for 15+ years off and on in many aspects of this hobby and been in different positions in certain organizations that give me certain views and opinions. I have seen many great tracks come and go over the past 15 years and its always said to see any of them go for any reason, So dont deem constructive criticism a reason to attempt a personal attack.

Also forgot to mention a update or additions to the website would be a nice change - who does that anyways?

A little flair or change of secenary woudl be good or open inventations to newbies, etc. Pic of the current layout or overhead drawing of it of some type.

Set some time aside for the new people or non-seasoned people to learn and improve and grow to like racing at the gate. Everything is there just need to cater to the people with out hurting the track/business.

Just my thoughts - take them for what they are not worth!

I would help with the website if needed - spend too much time on the net and cpu as is, could be doing something creative for the track!

See ya later again

MC

Guys - if you have issues why not e-mail each other.

Not good to see all this posted everywhere on the link - does not look good for the new person wanting to come to the track!

Plus it justs adds fuel to the fire and gets others upset.

Just have fun no matter who you are, what you do or have done, boils down to showing up, racing and having fun and not breaking! If you are not there big deal, show up when you can.

See ya later once again and finally

MC

All I read is Blah Blah Blah Free Shrek2 DVD for test drive Blah Blah Blah Blah

Good grief.... :)

Good grief.... :) :lol:

And look-for once I am NOT in the middle!!!

Remember everyone-we are planning on running a 19t/mod Sedan class Sunday. Should be fun and a nice diversion from stock sedan. Lets see if we can get two heats!!

Ray

Ok enough is enough Lets race! Thanks for the input on thr shocks guys, and what about springs.
That might not be a bad idea running 19t before champs, makes running stock that much easer.:rolleyes: We did that last year befor champs.

dan Medved

Ok enough is enough Lets race! Thanks for the input on thr shocks guys, and what about springs.
That might not be a bad idea running 19t before champs, makes running stock that much easer.:rolleyes: We did that last year befor champs.

dan Medved
Hmmmm.....when i infrequently revisit a BMI Tc3-its still always starting with Purple fronts and Copper rears. But-the old tried and true yellow/purple still works. I saw Many fast Tc3 running that combo at the Classic.

Dan-if I can find it-I had a KILLER set-up for the Warpspeed Demon at last years US Champs. As I recall-I ran equal laptimes in Masters to the top 30 to 40 in stock.