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rayhuang 08-23-2004, 06:48 PM Hey all,
How many insane people are doing the double tomorrow? Sedan and 12th scale. Maybe-just maybe could we rush a little more between heats to get a longer break between roounds for those running the dbl?
Just a thought. And i know its up to us to be ontime!!
Ray
1fastguy1 08-23-2004, 07:30 PM stay in retirement??? awwww come on man!!LOL
Mo
I got to try to keep up with the fast guys
joneser 08-23-2004, 08:24 PM It would not be the summer without the double. I am doing both and it would be great to have a few extra minutes here and there....or just having someone marshall every now and then would be a big help.
joneser 08-23-2004, 08:26 PM I will talk to you tomorrow....I missed your message, I dont get to look at this at work so I did not see your messageERIC JONES- do you want that power supply? and no, i did not get the kinetix, i am yet to get anything.
-Buddy
losidude44857 08-23-2004, 08:54 PM OK, ill see you tomorrow.
-Buddy
Xpressman 08-24-2004, 01:09 AM I cant haul diddly in this car!! And with a baby seat in the back-even less!!!
But did you see the new Chevy Cobalt. They had to use a supercharger to get the same HP as the Focus SVT, only has 5 gears, and less cargo room then the new Vette with a whopping 13.9.
rayhuang 08-24-2004, 11:20 AM I took off the silencer and it sounds pretty cool-but i am old and might put it back on. It seems to have more grunt-but I think its the noise more than anything. Any unofficialt SVT websites, etc to visit for advice, swaps, etc.?
But did you see the new Chevy Cobalt. They had to use a supercharger to get the same HP as the Focus SVT, only has 5 gears, and less cargo room then the new Vette with a whopping 13.9.
Mr-Tamiya 08-24-2004, 11:46 AM Will not be there tonight have otehr obligations sorry see ya all next tuesday!
rctazmanmc 08-24-2004, 12:41 PM Damn we are going to miss you..............
You got mail on my car - Jay.
Mr-Tamiya 08-24-2004, 03:26 PM Damn we are going to miss you..............
You got mail on my car - Jay.re email cuz I didnt get it
Xpressman 08-24-2004, 04:53 PM I took off the silencer and it sounds pretty cool-but i am old and might put it back on. It seems to have more grunt-but I think its the noise more than anything. Any unofficialt SVT websites, etc to visit for advice, swaps, etc.?
www.batinc.net Great site for Euro parts
www.spmotorsports.com
www.ctamotorsports.com
http://www.speedworx.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=extreme.htm
Those are great parts sites
http://www.fordrsstuff.fsnet.co.uk/ neat sitre with tons of info on the euro stuff and awsome pic of what looks like a Contour SVT but it is an estate wagon...wish they ahd that here...lol
www.svt-focus.com self expalatory
www.svtoa.com/default.asp SVT owners club
www.svtperformance.com I hope you can figure that one out
http://www.gefracing.com/focus_svt/focus.html
http://www.svtfocusonline.com/default2.asp
http://www.aitchison.org/robert/focus/RaceReadySVTfocus.htm competition stuff
http://www.focusfanatics.com/
So once again Ray you've made me go through stuff on the internet. First it was the GTP stuff and now this. I really need a job..know anyone that would have need for a guy with a BA in Business with a concetration in Sports Marketing??? hehehe
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 01:39 AM Expressman-that is too cool-thanks for all the links!!
Wayne (sg1) your 12th is looking better and better all the time!! Keep up all the cool ideas!! Thanks for showing me the real line on the track too. That helped a ton.
Ray
rctazmanmc 08-25-2004, 01:44 AM Ray - goto bad man it is 1:45 in the morning....
LOL
Thanks for the coaching - it helped me alot and I could see the difference ion times and smoothness.
I have to remeber R.T.T. - Roll The Throttle
MC
rctazmanmc 08-25-2004, 01:46 AM Jay - e-mail me directly since I do not have your addy and I sent it thru hobbytalk.
tazmanmc@aol.com
And I have not gotten a tc yet but will in less than a week - get with me!
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 01:53 AM I know-I know-got a lot of things running aroud in my head right now.
Kind-of wired after tonights racing. I learned a TON tonight, raced SO hard in the qualifiers and Mains and had a great time.
And I am always happy to help. It will be a lot easier for me when i drive your car instead of look at it too.
We/I should rebuild the whole car and get the car tweaked right, tires all the same size, etc., etc.
You'll love 12th once you get a good car-just ask Ray or Dave Usnik!!!
Ray
Ray - goto bad man it is 1:45 in the morning....
LOL
Thanks for the coaching - it helped me alot and I could see the difference ion times and smoothness.
I have to remeber R.T.T. - Roll The Throttle
MC
GRIZZLY-A 08-25-2004, 07:12 AM Had a great time as always running with everyone last night.I was only going to run one class but am glad I did both.Dave and I run real close in 1/12 which makes that fun.In touring,Tracy and me went back and forth.
Still have a lot of work to do,but the winter season should be a blast.
See you all at the next practice or race,
Ray
David Usnik 08-25-2004, 08:17 AM Ray,
On the drive home last night, I got to thinking about the progression my car's erratic handling. When I got home, I looked the front end over. What I found was about .010" - .015" of slop on the top suspension arm where it sits between the white spacers. It was the left arm that had the play, which is also the arm that takes the most abuse. That little bit of play changes the caster quite a bit. Those white spacers seem to wear pretty quickly. Does anybody make anything for this suspension to help with this problem? Spacers made from a different material maybe?:confused:
David Usnik 08-25-2004, 08:27 AM Had a great time as always running with everyone last night.I was only going to run one class but am glad I did both.Dave and I run real close in 1/12 which makes that fun.
Ray
I agree. Good times. Fun.
You, me, and Danny seem to have some good races. Come this fall, we might as well throw Ray Longhitano into that mix. This coming season should be real competitive.
rctazmanmc 08-25-2004, 09:33 AM I have to say that when and if I get my car dialed I hope to get up there with you guys.
I broke 2 qualifiers and dumped on one by a silly reason and still pulled a decent main even though I pulled over, went half throttle for a few laps and such because I was flustered.
Ray helped alot and I hope to get help from him on my car so I can run with the big boys.
Wayne was just insane especially with his practice packs he got - of which I wont see any like that for a while - LOL.....
More people coming out would be great for all - specially 1/12 scale.
See ya at the track
MC
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 11:40 AM What I found was about .010" - .015" of slop on the top suspension arm where it sits between the white spacers. It was the left arm that had the play, which is also the arm that takes the most abuse. That little bit of play changes the caster quite a bit. Those white spacers seem to wear pretty quickly. Does anybody make anything for this suspension to help with this problem? Spacers made from a different material maybe?:confused:
Use Trinity motor shims as caster shims. Change your front springs too-they might have started to wear-out.
Ray
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 01:18 PM Ray,
I dont want to jinx you-but your doing great -keep it up. also-lets devote some time to your BMI Tc3 and make it as good as your 12th scale car. Smooth and fast.
Ray
Had a great time as always running with everyone last night.I was only going to run one class but am glad I did both.Dave and I run real close in 1/12 which makes that fun.In touring,Tracy and me went back and forth.
Still have a lot of work to do,but the winter season should be a blast.
See you all at the next practice or race,
Ray
GRIZZLY-A 08-25-2004, 02:26 PM Ill let you drive it at the next practice session,either next tues.,or if they cancel that,the first sunday we are there.I welcome the help.I've gone as far as I can on my own,time for alittle help.
Ray
Mr-Tamiya 08-25-2004, 02:36 PM Anyone running the CEFX 12? besides josh and spashette? any input
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 02:38 PM Jimmy-any word on when XRay Fk will be in? I know someone who wants one. I'll pick-it up and ship it to him.
Your Chassis should ship to me tomorrow. I'll get it early next week.
Ray
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 03:55 PM What happened at the GAte last night? Did planets align? Did hell freeze over....
Congrats to my bud (aka c-ball, seaball, chicky jr2...lol) and yours too for setting TQ last night on 25 5:01 -that calls for Sweet Sassy Mallasy!!! And then capping off a big night with the A-Main win on 26 5:12-yup I typed it correct 26 laps for seaball.
And just to get his goat with a FTTC3 and Diamond Northern Milled chassis-no less.
Ray
Mr-Tamiya 08-25-2004, 04:35 PM Tell me it isnt true! we are not practicing next tuesday? you guys gonna take 3 weeks off before the next race? Is the schedule accurate on the web site practice 31st then off till the 16th practice and racing the 19th? hope to see all the old faces as well as the new ones come the 19th! we may want to think about starting earlier if so! that could be some huge turnout!
rctazmanmc 08-25-2004, 07:11 PM Goodness, gratious, sakes alive - "" from some N64 b-ball game
He misses a race a freaks because there is no practice, geeeessssshhhh.
Just joking Jay, lets see what the masters of the track have to say.
See ya later
joneser 08-25-2004, 09:20 PM email me offline and I will give you some info on it. Chicky ran it at the snowbirds and finished second. Very different front end! You better know what you are doing or it could be real interesting.Anyone running the CEFX 12? besides josh and spashette? any input
losidude44857 08-25-2004, 09:40 PM Yeah, Chris really laid it down with his ballistic TC3. Nice runs all night. And congrats Ray, your car was looking awesome, i got down to a 12.000 in the main, and then i dumped...there goes another "good" pack...dang.
-Buddy
rayhuang 08-25-2004, 09:47 PM Buddy-stay focused-your gonna be good someday. 12.0 is awesome from where you started first heat. YOu might have gone 25 laps had you run 5 miinutes!!
Priorities and commitment for the entire winter is what you need (and some better batteries!!!!). We know you can build a motor!!
Yeah, Chris really laid it down with his ballistic TC3. Nice runs all night. And congrats Ray, your car was looking awesome, i got down to a 12.000 in the main, and then i dumped...there goes another "good" pack...dang.
-Buddy
losidude44857 08-26-2004, 07:24 AM Yeah, batteries seem to be my only obstacle right now.....sad but true, Jimmy let me know when you are getting those Hurricane batts, i might by 3 packs? Gotta see how my money is.
-Buddy
bean's my hero 08-26-2004, 07:35 AM Yeah batteries are my only obstical right now too. But I'm gettin new ones so look out.:p Buddy I'll let ya know.
Jim
davidl 08-26-2004, 11:15 AM Ray,
On the drive home last night, I got to thinking about the progression my car's erratic handling. When I got home, I looked the front end over. What I found was about .010" - .015" of slop on the top suspension arm where it sits between the white spacers. It was the left arm that had the play, which is also the arm that takes the most abuse. That little bit of play changes the caster quite a bit. Those white spacers seem to wear pretty quickly. Does anybody make anything for this suspension to help with this problem? Spacers made from a different material maybe?:confused:
Dave - IRS has a nylon washer that replaces the one from Associated. Their website is http://www.teamirsrc.com/
rayhuang 08-26-2004, 12:29 PM Hey everyone,
Wayne has been working with BMI to create a new 12th scale chassis. as you know Wayne has been testing it and making changes. BMI posted pics of the current prototype so people can see whats going on.
I have provided a link here: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25530&perpage=30&pagenumber=147
for pics of it. The pics are scattered on this page so scroll down or up to find them. I have nothing to do w/this car and its design. Its all between Wayne and BMI.
Ray
novak1 08-26-2004, 01:50 PM Ray
Have you come up with a good setup for the Rev 4 on a medium bite track?
Mr-Tamiya 08-26-2004, 03:43 PM Hey everyone,
Wayne has been working with BMI to create a new 12th scale chassis. as you know Wayne has been testing it and making changes. BMI posted pics of the current prototype so people can see whats going on.
I have provided a link here: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25530&perpage=30&pagenumber=147
for pics of it. The pics are scattered on this page so scroll down or up to find them. I have nothing to do w/this car and its design. Its all between Wayne and BMI.
RayWayne, I need that car! that is what I have been waiting for! Old school meets new school tech! PM me with the info. This is Jay! help a Back in the day brother out! thanks
Jay... info has been sent!!!
rayhuang 08-26-2004, 05:09 PM I only brought out the Rev4 twice since the Nats when it was awesome. I struggled with it last two times. I have some ideas that should work, but havent been able to test them yet.
Heres where I would start next time out:
0.020 frnt sprng, 0 caster on old skool.
red spring with 60 wt oil and med hydra in dampers and blue side springs.
Tires-Tan or Purple fronts and Jaco white or TRCpink in the back. Sorry set-up is so vague-but iits where I am at right now with it. I have been running a L3 and now a L4 on occasion. Just nt a lot of 12th lately.
SORRY!
Ray
Ray
Have you come up with a good setup for the Rev 4 on a medium bite track?
joneser 08-26-2004, 06:01 PM Buddy....while you ran some AWESOME laps the other night...you cant be serious about batteries being your only hurdle. I dont think it was batteries that you are hitting out there:rolleyes: You need to get 5 minutes without needing marshalled and then you can worry about batteries. You are getting really fast....it might be in your best interest to slow it down and get your 5 minutes in with no wrecks.Yeah, batteries seem to be my only obstacle right now.....sad but true, Jimmy let me know when you are getting those Hurricane batts, i might by 3 packs? Gotta see how my money is.
-Buddy
losidude44857 08-26-2004, 08:16 PM I relize i do hit some stuff being out there. But with batteries that dont dump, or go half dead after 2 minutes i truly believe that i could be more competitive. Of course you are going to slow down through the race, but going from being able to hit almost all the right lines and running 12.1 to hitting all the right lines at 3 minutes and not being able to touch lower 12's.....batteries or me? I would have to be confident in myself (not the greatest driver) and say that batteries have a big part in that.
-Buddy
bean's my hero 08-26-2004, 08:53 PM Hey Guys,
The confirmed entry list for the 2004 Halloween Classic is posted on our website and can be view at: http://www.clevelandcarpetracing.com/classic.html
We are getting entries in every day so if you haven't sent your's in, better start thinking about it.
Thanks,
Jim Herrmann
novak1 08-26-2004, 10:54 PM Ray
The setup you posted is pretty close to what I ended up with when I practiced at Ultra tonight. I started with Cyan/pink and went to purple/pink. Cyan had to much steering (even with .22 springs) and purple didn't seem like it had enough. Is tan somewhat in the middle. I have never been to your new track at the gate. Are you recomending the red spring because your track is bumpy?
rayhuang 08-26-2004, 11:13 PM Novak-two reasons for red spring-less weight transfer forward for a less grippy track and bumps. in theory mind you :)
Tan is supposedly like Purple-but doesnt gum up or heat up lke purple-but I have found it to have more steering the whole run. I only have two pairs, but they have been used so many times. Smetimes they just seem right for a run or day.
rayhuang 08-27-2004, 12:01 AM Buddy-you'll think of this post n a year when your TQ'ng races and winning the A-Mains and think-I thought I was fast then?? hahahaha!!!
he wasnt busting on you-weve all got a long way to go and a lot more to learn and we could all be more consistent.
Your both right-but Eric is more right?!?!?!?!?!
Ray
I relize i do hit some stuff being out there. But with batteries that dont dump, or go half dead after 2 minutes i truly believe that i could be more competitive. Of course you are going to slow down through the race, but going from being able to hit almost all the right lines and running 12.1 to hitting all the right lines at 3 minutes and not being able to touch lower 12's.....batteries or me? I would have to be confident in myself (not the greatest driver) and say that batteries have a big part in that.
-Buddy
losidude44857 08-27-2004, 07:31 AM I understand i have got a long way to go before i start beating guys like you, Jimmy, Buran, Geotz, ect. But i definatly think that batteries that dont dump would help me be more consistant. But i understand that lines and not wrecking are more important than batteries, I hear where you are coming from.
-Buddy
Just drive that thing BUDDYLEE!!!!!
rayhuang 08-27-2004, 11:15 AM Darn straight!! Im already scared of you!!! First it was GOetz-now you-maybe that table you sit at has magical powers!!!Just drive that thing BUDDYLEE!!!!!
Goetz, Chris D. 08-27-2004, 01:38 PM Just let Chicky touch it, turn a screw on it, or something. That's usually worth about a lap. :thumbsup:
It's inexplicable. Just ask Paul.
Goetz, Chris D. 08-27-2004, 01:40 PM Oh, Yeah. Paul, thanks for letting me make that mold of your head, so that I can make that golden statue of you for my living room. Much appreciated.
rayhuang 08-27-2004, 01:57 PM Hey Chris-you go a little somthin on your chin-buddy!!Oh, Yeah. Paul, thanks for letting me make that mold of your head, so that I can make that golden statue of you for my living room. Much appreciated.
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