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rctazmanmc
08-18-2004, 07:32 PM
I wish I could have made my car handle better but it just went away.

I will next time ask for some help. Car handled great last week but it was everywhere and did whatever it wanted.

Kinda frustrated but I will stick with it and try to learn from you guys!!!

Lot of knowledge I just have to try to tap it.

I at least got to drive like I wanted going home 75 - 80 - Yeah!!!!!!!!!

Sammy said it when he said "I can't drive 55"

We will see next week

See ya later

krisgel
08-18-2004, 07:40 PM
Hi guys,

I survived my surgery today. Anesthesia was fun, 2 hours time lasted about 1 second.

Chicky or Ray,

Can you tell me how I should setup my 12L4 to increase my lap times? That is impressive that the change in setup of Ray's car yielded such positive results.

I won't be able to wrench on the car for a couple of weeks, but I am really looking forward to getting back to racing.

Now for some Vicodin-induced relaxation. :tongue: :freak: :p

Mr-Tamiya
08-18-2004, 07:58 PM
Glad to hear surgery went well! you'll be wheelin soon!

rayhuang
08-18-2004, 09:10 PM
Hi guys,

I survived my surgery today. Anesthesia was fun, 2 hours time lasted about 1 second.

Chicky or Ray,

Can you tell me how I should setup my 12L4 to increase my lap times? That is impressive that the change in setup of Ray's car yielded such positive results.

Adam-it wasnt set-up-he didnt change it at all. he just freed up my bound up front suspension-some thing I should know how to do after 5 years!!

Ray

rayhuang
08-18-2004, 09:14 PM
I am glad to hear your Focus SVT isnt a lemon like mne!! Tell me-does yours have cold start run problems? Like stutters and smells rich at start up-or the opposite-goes into a high idle (like 3500rpm)as soon as you hit the gas peddle and stays like that for about a minute or two-even in 80 degree weather? Talk about looking like a loser shifting the car and in between shifts the motors zinging!!!

I wish I could have made my car handle better but it just went away.

I will next time ask for some help. Car handled great last week but it was everywhere and did whatever it wanted.

Kinda frustrated but I will stick with it and try to learn from you guys!!!

Lot of knowledge I just have to try to tap it.

I at least got to drive like I wanted going home 75 - 80 - Yeah!!!!!!!!!

Sammy said it when he said "I can't drive 55"

We will see next week

See ya later

losidude44857
08-18-2004, 10:28 PM
Jones, I can get you that power supply for 60 shipped, it is 17 amps at 12v and i can get it up to 13.2 volts for about 8 bucks more, let me know, if so. Ill get the money from you and get a money order, b/c they think it is for me, and cutting me a deal, so, just let me know.
-Buddy

rayhuang
08-18-2004, 10:37 PM
Goetz-if you see this-I rebuilt my BMI Tc3 just a few minutes ago. if you want to meet at lunch tomorrow to pick-it up so you can have the weekend to throw in your electronics and get it tweaked for TUesday. I'll bet ya lucnh it goes at least as fast-but is far more consistent than yours. It also has Zero slop in the arms, etc. Its ready to race.

Ray

rctazmanmc
08-19-2004, 09:51 AM
Ray - mine does the same but not all the time - supposedly we can get the cpu re-flashed from ford to help that problem and make3 the car run better.

I fired up once and I swear my car was only running on 2 cylinders and it was smoking just a tad bit which freaked me out - but I kept giving it gas and after about a minute or so it went away.

My problem now is my brakes - gotta change then after 25K - backs squeal like a pig after a while.

I like the silver though, what color is the dash illumination and seat insert color?

See ya at the track next week if I can get my car tweaked right.

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 10:21 AM
RCTazmanmc-I am getting close to needing brakes myself. I am not going to use the stock pads if I can help it. Terrible cold and wet braking performance. Dash is silver gauges with green backlight and seat inserts are blue.

Do you know whos got cross drilled rotors for it at a good price?

rctazmanmc
08-19-2004, 12:32 PM
Let me use my connections to see.

I know they are a little steep because I thought about getting them, I know that I am getting ceramic brakes this time - less wear and less DUST!

I will pm you on what I find.

If you have not put a cold intake or different filter on it I would get a kn drop in. I put one in my car and the car runs better and on the road I get 30-40 miles more out of a tank - city driving it gives a little more response over 4000.

I might have to let you run my 1/12 scale to see if you can help me figure it out or if it is just my driving style. I ended up with too much front stear and loose rear traction.

Talk to you all later

Mr-Tamiya
08-19-2004, 12:41 PM
what year are your focus"s ? I run a NAPA store!!!!!!!!!;-)

rctazmanmc
08-19-2004, 01:00 PM
They are 2002 Focus SVT's - and standard focus gear will not bolt to it.

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 03:01 PM
RCtazmanmc-I have put K&N's in a few cars over the years. I think I'll do that. PLus I like how they sound w/ the K&N's in there at full throttle.

I am always happy to help anyone-so let me drive it and I'll do what I can. It could be as simple as dual rate-or something much more involved...

Mr-Tamiya
08-19-2004, 03:04 PM
I can do fornt ceramic pads for the svt for 50.00 set and rear for 45.00 a set, sorry mo cross drilled rotors from us yet, we offer them for other cars just not the focus svt yet let me know!

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 03:05 PM
Thanks Mr. Tamiya!! What 12th have you decided on?

Mr-Tamiya
08-19-2004, 03:16 PM
:freak: I am so confused! i have no clue yet which 12th scale! I may wait and see what comes out in the near future, is josh's car available yet? what do you all think of the reflex? part of me says stay with what you know! Associated,

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 03:31 PM
12L4, T-Fource, Rug Rat... All have a couple guys who will run them this winter at the Gate on a regular basis!!

Heck-with the right set-up the Rev3 and 4 are fast as can be too.

Stealth_RT
08-19-2004, 03:41 PM
Been playing with my new Integy tire truer and comm lathe. Played with them quite a bit yesterday. They are both SWEET!!!!

The tire truer is a work of art. It's so cool and so much fun to use, I want to buy more tires just to true them. The auto feed is great. You can control the speed on the left-to-right cut, then it automatically returns right-to-left at a fast speed. It doesn't smoke at all, like alot of truers do, since it's 'cutting' the foam and not 'grinding' it away. The ability to spin the tire in EITHER direction is fantastic! Just the ticket for rounding the edges after the tire is trued.

The comm lathe is super, too. Took some experimenting to get the bit shimming just right, and it can take a little time to the left side bit travel stop set. It might be a pain if I was always doing different brands/models of arms, but it's set now for my Kr arms.

Ray, never, ever use cross drilled rotors. They crack and can fall apart if you get them too hot. Either get plain, or at most, slotted rotors. My Bradi rotors are holding up great to my abuse of them at Beaver Run. Not sure if they make rotors for your car tho. I'm having good luck so far with my Portfield R4S pads, but they do make quite a bit of brake dust. Alot of ppl like the EBC Greenstuff pads and the Axxis Ultimate pads. Get some SS brake lines, if the car doesn't have them already. And some good, high temp brake fluid. Motul 600 is my personal choice, ATM. No signs of fade or boiling all day at BR.

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 03:59 PM
I dont use brakes!!! :lol: yeah right! I abuse brakes-thats more like it.

Thanks!! I will definately need rotors to go with new pads. I could have my rotors cryod too-but that doesnt always work.

Glad to hear the INtegy stuff is so sweet as its way less than Hudy.

Xpressman
08-19-2004, 04:02 PM
I am glad to hear your Focus SVT isnt a lemon like mne!! Tell me-does yours have cold start run problems? Like stutters and smells rich at start up-or the opposite-goes into a high idle (like 3500rpm)as soon as you hit the gas peddle and stays like that for about a minute or two-even in 80 degree weather? Talk about looking like a loser shifting the car and in between shifts the motors zinging!!!

Ray,

Should have saved yourself some money and found an excellent condition Contour SVT like me. Insurance is a lot cheaper too and I can haul more r/c stuff then you. hahahaha

My Contour SVT did the same thing and it with idle being erratic and it was almost liek the throtle was sticking but it was the TPS (throtle position sensor). Changed that and the only time my idle goes up is when I turn the air on right after start up. But driving with the windows up loses the exhaust note. Hearing a throaty V6 sound from a lil car is just too cool.

See you all in a couple of weeks.

Brian

rayhuang
08-19-2004, 04:14 PM
I cant haul diddly in this car!! And with a baby seat in the back-even less!!!


But man-oh man does it handle great and the 6-speed is nearly perfectly spaced. I can run 45mph in the city in 5th and have some pull or stay in third if I need to. Great engine. YOu wont believe this-but its more fun to hustle around city corners than my dads Porsche 911 Carrera. With his-if you go full throttle on an on-ramp-you shift once and your at 78 mph. If you kept it on the floor hrough the gears youd be going 100+ before merging!! hahaha!!

Fun-but stupid!!


Ray,

Should have saved yourself some money and found an excellent condition Contour SVT like me. Insurance is a lot cheaper too and I can haul more r/c stuff then you. hahahaha

My Contour SVT did the same thing and it with idle being erratic and it was almost liek the throtle was sticking but it was the TPS (throtle position sensor). Changed that and the only time my idle goes up is when I turn the air on right after start up. But driving with the windows up loses the exhaust note. Hearing a throaty V6 sound from a lil car is just too cool.

See you all in a couple of weeks.

Brian

rctazmanmc
08-19-2004, 04:31 PM
Ray I drive like you!!!

The car was built to be driven and I will be damned if I am going to drive like a old fart and not use the car - I see people driving these northstar caddies with the sweet engine going 35 and not giving it any gas - kills me - but they are doing more harm then good buy driving that way!! Let me drive that sum **tch - I will show them what it was made for.

Jay - pad prices are not too bad - who manufactures them? I will only run name brand performance pads if I get them - to hell with standard napa pads....

When you gotta brake from 70 to take a 35 mph corner it does eat some pads - Buddy knows how I drive! Freaked him out a few times but I do not play dipshit games like these dumb punk teenagers do - I can loose control of my car and re-gain control and continue - all they do is loose control and hit shit or hurt other people! They all need to go back to driving school along with all the old people on the road.

Enough of that rant - Jay you need to run this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1200&item=5916040719&rd=1

A set of foams and you are set!!

One thing I would like to see at the gate or anywhere is a nostaligia class - run like the old mrc (I think 1/12 scale), or associated 12e's, legends, etc. Same for offroad - old frogs, fx-10's, etc. That would be cool as heck.

See ya all later

Mr-Tamiya
08-19-2004, 04:41 PM
Ray I drive like you!!!

The car was built to be driven and I will be damned if I am going to drive like a old fart and not use the car - I see people driving these northstar caddies with the sweet engine going 35 and not giving it any gas - kills me - but they are doing more harm then good buy driving that way!! Let me drive that sum **tch - I will show them what it was made for.

Jay - pad prices are not too bad - who manufactures them? I will only run name brand performance pads if I get them - to hell with standard napa pads....

When you gotta brake from 70 to take a 35 mph corner it does eat some pads - Buddy knows how I drive! Freaked him out a few times but I do not play dipshit games like these dumb punk teenagers do - I can loose control of my car and re-gain control and continue - all they do is loose control and hit shit or hurt other people! They all need to go back to driving school along with all the old people on the road.

Enough of that rant - Jay you need to run this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1200&item=5916040719&rd=1

A set of foams and you are set!!

One thing I would like to see at the gate or anywhere is a nostaligia class - run like the old mrc (I think 1/12 scale), or associated 12e's, legends, etc. Same for offroad - old frogs, fx-10's, etc. That would be cool as heck.

See ya all laterSWEET!!!! dude we all need one of those! Now only if it could drop banana peels like the game! LOL

Xpressman
08-19-2004, 08:02 PM
I cant haul diddly in this car!! And with a baby seat in the back-even less!!!


But man-oh man does it handle great and the 6-speed is nearly perfectly spaced. I can run 45mph in the city in 5th and have some pull or stay in third if I need to. Great engine. YOu wont believe this-but its more fun to hustle around city corners than my dads Porsche 911 Carrera. With his-if you go full throttle on an on-ramp-you shift once and your at 78 mph. If you kept it on the floor hrough the gears youd be going 100+ before merging!! hahaha!!

Fun-but stupid!!

The only complaint I've had on my contour svt is going 80mph it's at like 3500rpm. Makes it great for passing as the secondaries kick in at 3900. But gas mileage sucks. City or highway it is always 24-26mpg. My beretta GTZ got around 32 mpg highway and 38 highway after I rebuilt the Quad 4. It pays to know some guys that race quad 4s. hehehe

rayhuang
08-20-2004, 12:14 AM
I am hearing from guys everyday that are coming. I know couple fast guys from Florida, TN, MO!!! Its so cool we draw drivers from that far away to our little track.

Medved
08-20-2004, 01:56 AM
Hey,

I was just wondering what classes people were planning to run at the Halloween Classic?

What is going to be choice of the locals, Stock or Masters! and why.

Goetz, Chris D.
08-20-2004, 10:13 AM
Personally, I would like to see most of us running stock. I have always thought that the age to run Masters is way too low. I think the idea of that class is provide another platform for those to compete on who's skills aren't as sharp as younger folks, simply due to the detriment to motor skills that age can be. 35? Yeah, alot of the top stock guys are that age or beyond. Lonergan, Ezrow, Junior, M.Crisp, the list goes on... :thumbsup:

rayhuang
08-20-2004, 10:19 AM
Pete-thats tough!! ONe one hand if you run stock-you race a bigger field, but no less quality at the top. So-yeah-you might be 11th in Masters or 20th in Stock 12th-but have you really achieved anythng more bt running stock?

ON the other hand-I plan on running Masters at Champs so it doesnt hurt to race the same guys. That way you know what tonexpect and they learn how you drive too.

For now I am looking at Masters 12th and Stock Sedan. And maybe llater if they need to fill heats-I might sign up for Mod Sedan.

krisgel
08-20-2004, 11:55 AM
Personally, I would like to see most of us running stock. I have always thought that the age to run Masters is way too low. I think the idea of that class is provide another platform for those to compete on who's skills aren't as sharp as younger folks, simply due to the detriment to motor skills that age can be. 35? Yeah, alot of the top stock guys are that age or beyond. Lonergan, Ezrow, Junior, M.Crisp, the list goes on... :thumbsup:

Barry Bonds does not play in the old timers baseball league. He's 40. RC racing is a little less physically demanding than MLB. Masters should be more like 45 and above.

rayhuang
08-20-2004, 03:32 PM
Adam,

If they raised it to 45-I wouldn't care at all. But as long as its 35-for Champ-why not! PLus-once you get seated into a higher qualifier at Champs-its NOT a good idea to lose it by moving back and forth between stock and masters.

Ray

rctazmanmc
08-20-2004, 03:42 PM
Anyone at the track running futaba pcm gear?

I need help on troubleshooting my radio and gear out. I have a 3PJS that died and I am trying to figure out what is wrong. Will have it with me at the track Tues.

Post if you can help me. I have done everything I can to troubleshoot it but cannot figure it out until I can use someones working gear.

Thanks

Ray- did you take the silencer out of the air box? it looks like a S - it breathes better and with the KN you can hear the motor breathing!!

rayhuang
08-20-2004, 03:52 PM
Just yanked it out-thanks!! Sorry-cannot help you with the PCm stuff-per se.

losidude44857
08-20-2004, 10:41 PM
Ask Christopher about the radio, he is all saphisticated and such...lol
-Buddy

Medved
08-21-2004, 01:58 AM
I guess it doesn't really apply to me anyway, since I'm under 40, which is ROARS cutoff for Masters.

The indoor Champs is listed at minimum age of 35.

I still tend to agree with Chris, that more should run stock. The more classes we have, the less competition.

Roger Horowitz
08-21-2004, 05:28 AM
You may call him sophisticated, but we REALLY know what you are saying. Your club is going soft NORCAR. You will see the light, and it will not be pink or baby blue. Get my drift?

Mr-Tamiya
08-21-2004, 08:22 AM
Do I hear some sorta challenge brewin?

Mr-Tamiya
08-21-2004, 11:31 AM
Man I tell ya! I have visited some "other" forums the past few days and some people just dont have a clue! Kinda scary! They are giving advice on certain things to newbies and they are probably newbies themselves from the sounds of it! anyways had to vent here where its safe and most of the info you get here and our other forum is accurate!

Goetz, Chris D.
08-21-2004, 01:31 PM
Roger,

I see you like stopping by our thread some. Let me be the first to invite you to our Halloween Classic on October 8, 9, and 10. You can download the entry form off of our website, which I am guessing you peruse as well. Do you live in or around Ohio? If,again, I had to guess, my money is on a yes.

So bring your, way too busy, flamed out paint job over to The Gate so that we can do more than e-racing. :wave:

Goetz, Chris D.
08-21-2004, 01:36 PM
Guten locka, to Pauly who's attenting a big slot car race over there this week. Make them eat your balls, Paul. :eek:

losidude44857
08-22-2004, 12:23 AM
Jones...You wantin that power supply?
-Buddy

1fastguy1
08-22-2004, 08:49 PM
hey guys are you guys running on tuesday nights???
Mo Denton

bean's my hero
08-22-2004, 09:58 PM
Mo you have a PM

Jim

losidude44857
08-22-2004, 09:59 PM
Yes we are, doors open between 5 and 530. See you there?
-Buddy

1fastguy1
08-22-2004, 10:36 PM
sounds good is there a pretty good turnout? and is there time to practice, I am still a bit rusty
Mo

bean's my hero
08-23-2004, 07:40 AM
Mo the turn out on Tuesdays are light between 20 and 30 and the doors open at 5:00pm for race nights and 5:30pm for practice nights. We generally start racing around 7:00 so you get about 2 hours of practice. We are usually done around 11:00pm.

Jim

STONE
08-23-2004, 11:15 AM
Buddy,

so, did you get those Kinetix batteries?......if so what did you think?

joneser
08-23-2004, 06:20 PM
Stone....I have been running Kinetix for the entire summer. I think the prices are good and the batteries have been great.

joneser
08-23-2004, 06:21 PM
Stay in retirement!sounds good is there a pretty good turnout? and is there time to practice, I am still a bit rusty
Mo

losidude44857
08-23-2004, 06:26 PM
ERIC JONES- do you want that power supply? and no, i did not get the kinetix, i am yet to get anything.
-Buddy

Stealth_RT
08-23-2004, 06:43 PM
Anyone know if Mike Blackstock went to that race in Florida?