Just had lunch with Goetz-wow-13.6's and 13.7's for him-not too shabby.

Its a shame I cannot practice and run more as I have a 100 things to try and test and barely 2 hours if I am lucky to test as much as I can. Add onto it this is one tough layout. As I told Chris today-some tracks you can make three mistakes and lose 0.3 sec per lap. This track you can lose 0.3 in three places per lap!!!

Buddy-JOneser is right-the Tc3 is fast, but if you dont concentrate and really stay on top of the car every corner-you will tag someboards pretty hard with that car. The odd thing is it happens when you think your online and fine too. Its just a strange car like that. You can also go months without breaking a single part too-especially if you use some Losi parts on it.

Ray

So does this mean Jimmy is getting a Pro 4? Sounded like he did really well with it.

RB

Fleetwood-he sure did! He bought a BMI pro4 no less!!! So hes doubly dialed now.

Are you working tonight? if yes-I might call ya late tonight. PM me your cell phone as my cells phones at work.

Does anyone have a pair of rear body posts for the TC3 that i can buy, i got retarded and cut them down way too far. Please let me know.
-Buddy

Buddy,


Just snag the set off of your Losi. They work just fine...............

Ray,

Just saw this message. I am sure you are not up. I will call ya tomorrow.

RB

Hey Rob, thanks.
-Buddy

I'm building the t-plate for my 12L4. If I fully tighten the 4 screws that attach the upper and lower pivot sockets, the pivot balls do not move freely in the pivot sockets. In order for the pivot balls to move freely, I must back of the 4 screws to the point that there is play between to the 2 pivot sockets that is roughly equal to 1 associated front end shim.

Is it correct to adjust the screws so that the pivot balls move completely freely?

Thanks,

Adam

I'm building the t-plate for my 12L4. If I fully tighten the 4 screws that attach the upper and lower pivot sockets, the pivot balls do not move freely in the pivot sockets. In order for the pivot balls to move freely, I must back of the 4 screws to the point that there is play between to the 2 pivot sockets that is roughly equal to 1 associated front end shim.

Is it correct to adjust the screws so that the pivot balls move completely freely?

Thanks,

Adam

Adam-theres a few places to look:

1-was there flashing on the plastic plates? if yes-Very carefull cut it off.

2-polish the pivot balls.

3-and as you stated-not too tight. Just tight enough so no play.

Ray

Thanks Ray.

Another question: Are the bottom and top dampener plates supposed to be lubed? the 12L3 instructions say yes, the 12L4 instructions has zero set-up advice and almost zero words.

Thanks Ray.

Another question: Are the bottom and top dampener plates supposed to be lubed? the 12L3 instructions say yes, the 12L4 instructions has zero set-up advice and almost zero words.

Yes-lube light but make sure youve got full coverage under the plates-After working the plates around-wipe off any excess lube that works its way out. That just attracts dirt that gets pulled under the plates.

Joneser and Chicky will tell you what lubes works for the Gate.

Ray

I think SEABALL would be the best one to ask about lubes. Even though he doesn't run 1/12th scale he knows what lubes work best, after all I think he's tried every lube on the market. Maybe he will inform us as to which lube works best :thumbsup:

Uh, what's this 'RC Racing' I keep hearing about? Lol. Haven't raced since my last time at the Gate, before the Nats. Haven't even finished putting my used TC3 together. Still needs receiver and speedo installed/wired. Might have it done by September for the start of the season. Really need to get some pistons/sleeves sent out to be squeezed, then get my XR/monster truck ready to play with at Brown's a few times over the summer. But really, really trying to get the full sized car repairs/upgrades done to make the June 21st open track day at Beaver Run. :)

Stealth-I got offred two rides for the Mid-Ohio Kart race this weekend. Turned them both down to-stupid me!!! I had to go there Friday to drop off a motor to my bro that came UPS and when i got there my buddy said they resurfaced a bunch of corners and now he said Turn 8 is flat out and the carousel is now flat out. I looked at him and told him I always did both corners flat out!!! Even when they were bumpy-He looked at me like I was lieing, but I wasnt-it was great. I dont race karts anymore-but I still won the bench racing contest!!! hehehe!!

Ray
p.s. Have fun at beaver!!

The center shock seems about 1/4" too long. When placed on the car and when the car is held in the air, the back of rear pod hangs down with about a 20 degree angle.

Should the ball cups on the shock be cut down so that the rear pod is level when the car is held in the air?

Thanks,

Adam

Jimmy even though you are 100% correct, ......That is just plain old WRONG!!!I think SEABALL would be the best one to ask about lubes. Even though he doesn't run 1/12th scale he knows what lubes work best, after all I think he's tried every lube on the market. Maybe he will inform us as to which lube works best :thumbsup:

Adam-again-better to be answered by Chicky-but hes out of town all week I think so I think the shock should be long enough for pod to hand back about 5º and then when its sitting on surface plate-leevel the pod and chassis with the shock preload collar.

Again-anyone who knows better-chime in ok?

Ray... I think I can help with that one.... first, adj. the collar on the shock so it just touches the spring, then cut the ball cups down so when you snap your shock on there is approx. 1/2 cup of preload on the shock. I usually snap the front of the shock on then adj. the rear ball cup to be about 1/16" longer then the ball (have chassis flat on table, no tires on). The lower rear pod should be forced down in the back about .02" or so. Then with all the weight in the car (tires on) the lower pod plate should sit flat. Just my $.02.

Ray... I think I can help with that one.... first, adj. the collar on the shock so it just touches the spring, then cut the ball cups down so when you snap your shock on there is approx. 1/2 cup of preload on the shock. I usually snap the front of the shock on then adj. the rear ball cup to be about 1/16" longer then the ball (have chassis flat on table, no tires on). The lower rear pod should be forced down in the back about .02" or so. Then with all the weight in the car (tires on) the lower pod plate should sit flat. Just my $.02.I LOVE the internet-thanks Wayne-always learnin I am!! Can you race offroad this Saturday Wayne?

Ray

Thanks Ray and Wayne! Now I know what to do.

-Adam

I need to sell my losi...help!!!

Buddy,


Yes you do 5:30 Wed. is fast approaching!:wave:

Buddy, if you dont sell it, you may want to contact geotz and get some lube!:freak:

Hello,

I am new to this thread, but I think I know this Geotz character. If his name is Chris and he pats people on the buttox and says "Good game." for no reason, then we speak of the same person. He is weird. I have met him at the ROAR Nationals. Is he really gay? He told me I could sleep over. :confused:

What is an accurate way to set toe-in on a 12 scale car?

Thanks.

BUDDY BLYSTONE is my HEROOOOoooooooooooo

LOL, i will have your money.
-Buddy

Buddy,

:hat: :thumbsup: :hat:

Ray... I'll be at Classic running oval!!!! When are you going there???

To set the toe in... I usually eye ball it, I don't use gages. Just put a slight bit of pressure on the rear of the front tires and eye ball it from the back of the car. Once it is close, run the car down the straight away and adjust your tracking on your radio. I know my radio (m8) doesn't have a fine enough adjustment to have the car track perfectly straight, so I adj. the turnbuckles to get it straighter then what the radio can do. A slight bit of toe out if anything is better, in my opinion.

Ray... I'll be at Classic running oval!!!! When are you going there???sg1-I am waiting on the car to arrive and then see how much money I have to put into it to get it running. I bought an used esc from Bud for it and a servo from Goetz too!! The wife gave me a free pass to race this weekend and the next-so hopefully it comes soon.

Ray

I would love to run around in circles if someone has a rent a ride!!!


Eric

I would love to run around in circles if someone has a rent a ride!!!


Eric
Yeah-weird isnt it? All of a sudden this summer I want to race offroad AND Oval....

Ray... did you get tires for oval??

So far I have Jaco Purple and BLue fronts, BSR Pink rears and Jaco Green rears. When the car comes I'll buy some DBl Purple or Red fronts and maybe some Aqua rears.

Ray

Is it wednesday yet????

Is it wednesday yet????

They moved practice to Tuesday-didnt you get the e-mail???

just kidding. I am only bringing th Pro4 tomorrow night-so yo get to whip on me more Buddy........or maybe not.... :p

Audrey just went to sleep-so its time to get ready for tomorrow!!!

Yeah, i better pack everything up, and i better get home at a decent time tommorrow night, last week i didnt get home till almost midnight....way past my bedtime. Is there anyway that we can setup a little 5 minute race or two tommorrow night...that would be cool, i would like to see where i fair against you, joneser, goetz, and jimmy, well he is on a whole different level....lol, see you tommorrow.
-Buddy

Buddy.....I will not be there....I am taking a week off to regroup and come out fighting. last week was a waste....I am also contemplating getting my Xray now! I will then really begin some testing!!! You will be fine. You were fast last week. I think you will be right there. Jimmy is doing really good but it was not long ago he was at our level.....sometimes he shows us glimpses of that. He will be cought soon enough! See you guys in a week or so. Jimmy remember 2 Airtronics 94758z

Yeah, i better pack everything up, and i better get home at a decent time tommorrow night, last week i didnt get home till almost midnight....way past my bedtime. Is there anyway that we can setup a little 5 minute race or two tommorrow night...that would be cool, i would like to see where i fair against you, joneser, goetz, and jimmy, well he is on a whole different level....lol, see you tommorrow.

-Buddy

Buddy-setting up 5 minute races is no problem. You can also go out with Goetz and both just go all out-no stopping to wait up, then when both of you are done-you just go compare laps vs time of day.

JOneser-I cannot say enough about the Xray with short -arms. I know ou thought mine was a bag-but it wasnt nearly as bad as you think. It was just off on set-up a tad and theres a TON of room to go on set-up in the direction it was off. It's not like on some cars you do everything you can think of and its still handles badly. I already know the changes to make. Also-pre-Nats with a different set-up-it was pretty awesome to drive.

I would buy the FTXray right now and get it ready. And when I am blowing your doors off-you'll buy the BMI chassis for it!!

Ray

when you are blowing my doors off? well the way I see it....the only time that happens is at a big race (when its ultilmatly most important) but if we are not at a big race then the only blowing of doors you will be doing is when you take my car back to the tire room to clean it for me!! Very close to pulling the trigger! Waiting for some clarification on time frame from one hoo haa that runs the car;) Buddy-setting up 5 minute races is no problem. You can also go out with Goetz and both just go all out-no stopping to wait up, then when both of you are done-you just go compare laps vs time of day.

JOneser-I cannot say enough about the Xray with short -arms. I know ou thought mine was a bag-but it wasnt nearly as bad as you think. It was just off on set-up a tad and theres a TON of room to go on set-up in the direction it was off. It's not like on some cars you do everything you can think of and its still handles badly. I already know the changes to make. Also-pre-Nats with a different set-up-it was pretty awesome to drive.

I would buy the FTXray right now and get it ready. And when I am blowing your doors off-you'll buy the BMI chassis for it!!

Ray

I would like to take a week off, but i need to get faster. :devil: :devil: :devil:

If I take a week off, I feel I am taking a step back.but,..I need a week off to regroup after last week. besides, I need to regain my dominance of Goetz. (or should I say Roger Horowitz)

Man. All kinds of trash talking out here:) U guys are nuts. Sorry I cannot get into this Wednesday night excitement. My work schedule does not allow it. I've got about 15 touring cars right now to test and I cannot find time to drive any of them. I think I will order some ozite and build a track in my basement. At least nobody can beat me there:)

Take care fellas,
RB Love

I dont know whats-up w/ me at club races lately. But-I am not worried. I feel fine on the drivers stand!

I was planning on skipping tonight-but after getting rained out last Sat night-I too feel the need to drive.

Fleetwood-talk to ya tomorrow!! I'll fill ya in on my Pro4.

Bummer you are not going to be at the gate this evening. I will be attempting to use the 3PK for the first time - a daunting task. Can you tell me which setting I should use to dial out some of the steering in order that the car has a 4 foot(?) turning radius?

Any other important settings to take note of right of the bat?

Thanks,

Adam

The radio is really easy to use and if you run into problems, I am sure Goetz could help you out...he has used my radio before. All the adjustments you use should be on the quick menu. I dont know off the top of my head which button combo it is...I need my radio in front of me. I do know that you should not need to go to the 3 screen menu system for anything...maybe setting your subtrim. just pull up the menu that gives you the exp, trims, model select...i think there is 5 or 6 choices. You should be able to do everything from there. Chicky will not be there either so you will have to talk to Ray while he is there for any 12th scale help. (dont let his recent performance kid you, he knows what he is doing):p



Bummer you are not going to be at the gate this evening. I will be attempting to use the 3PK for the first time - a daunting task. Can you tell me which setting I should use to dial out some of the steering in order that the car has a 4 foot(?) turning radius?

Any other important settings to take note of right of the bat?

Thanks,

Adam

I'll check with Ray and Chris for more help.

You mentioned that you are supposed to run the car in a circle to check for proper turning radiius. I think you said that the car should make 4 foot circles. You also showed me a setting on the radio to adjust for this and you had left at 75% and right at 73% (or maybe the other way around). Which setting on the radio is this?

I'll check with Ray and Chris for more help.

You mentioned that you are supposed to run the car in a circle to check for proper turning radiius. I think you said that the car should make 4 foot circles. You also showed me a setting on the radio to adjust for this and you had left at 75% and right at 73% (or maybe the other way around). Which setting on the radio is this?Hey there,

Bring the manual w/ you and I'll do my best to get your car/radio going in a straight line!! The plan is for me to be there a little longer this time (8pm) so I will have the time to help. The setting of 73 and 75% is called EPA (End Point Adjustment).

Ray

Thanks Ray. I appreciate the help. I should be there by 6 tonight.

To set a circle to a specific size (4', 6' 8') is usually done with Dual Rate-but after setting a bunch of other things. I have noticed that my JR radio and new KO Helios radio are different default settings from the factory-so I cannot really explain here. I am sure the FUtaba radio also has unique default settings for EPA and Dual Rate.

Ray

I think its steering exp to initially set the circles correctly....then the dual rate will allow you to adjust equally...more or less steering. Ray and Chris should be able to help....Chris is familiar with the radio I think so it should not be a problem. Ray can help get the car set up....he was a big help to me