Yeah-I like FREE LUNCHES!! I am pumped about tonight. Jimmy-Chris-Eric..... all gunnin for TQ tonight. Yeah-baby!!!

I can pay your entry next race in trade for motor work and brushes for the night!! Theres really only two things in all of RC Racing I cannot stand doing. One is tearing down motors and cutting comms and the other is wiping that nasty Paragon off the tires.

Having said that I rebuilt three motors last night and the ones with the 767's that Jimmy just got in were looking good on the T35. I am thinkin if Paradigm brushes are on b/o still-the 767's are the way to go.

RayI alwasy thought the 767's were too hard, I have had good luck with 4099's (i think thats the number) and sometimes using the E brush on the + and a 767 on the - . produces rpm without sacrificing torque

Running a differnt brush on Pos and Negative is definately a good thing. SOme of the most powerful brushes I found at Nats were the Putnam Blue and Greens, but at $4 plus a pair-not worth it for clubbin when a $1.65 pr of brushes will do.

Ray

Hey ray thanks for those motors and i have your $ I forgot to give it to ya last tues. with all the comotion at the track. THe kids did well this sunday at Hobbytown race way, both turned 18 laps in the main and finished 2nd and third respectively out of 5 in their B main and 7th and 8th overall in the touring stock. they are getting better!

Awesome!!

What a race night. Turnout was light, but the racing was some of the best ever. The B-main 12th saw Danny, Pete, Ray and Dave battle for 8 minutes-all of them on the same section of track the whole way. All of them cutting beautiful lines!! Dan Medved took the honors. IN the A-Main 12th Brian Rice TQ'd (wha-whaaatt??) with a blistering 41 lap run-wow!! He lead early while Paul kept chasing. Paul took the lead at some point and like the B- Dave Morrow and Jones were playing chase. I drove so hard and finished last-but I didnt care as I was chasing Eric and Dave the whole 8-miinutes.

The B-Main Touring was really cool to watch. Theres guys and gals in that heat that are getting so much better every week. 21 and 22 lap runs now-WOW!!!

IN the A-main of touring-a perfect start, and Jimmy just started to air it out by running 11.8 and 12.0 up front while I had the best race ever with Chris Goetz!! Jones put it up w/ us a few times, but a loose car had him crashing every time he got close enough to put up a fight. 30 seconds to go and Jimmy's a few seconds up the road while Chris is literally under my rear bodywork. Chris taps, Jones goes by for third and thats how it finishes.

Yup-you all who didnt come-missed a Great one tonight-you really did!! Congrats to my buddies Rice for TQ'ng 12th and Paul for winnin and again to Jimmy for the TQ in stock sedan and the win. At least were keeping yo honest-Jimmy!! Dont want you to get bored!!

Ray

No free food Ray? LOL
-Buddy

Awesome night of racing! It seemed like everyone was on the ball last night. Both mains for 1/12 scale were great. You just can't ask for better racing than that. Ray, I agree with you. Finishing last isn't all that bad when the racing is that good.

Ray, how well do those Putnam brushes work? They sound expensive, but if they produce some power... In your opinion, how well do 767's run for 1/12?

The B-Main Touring was really cool to watch. Theres guys and gals in that heat that are getting so much better every week. 21 and 22 lap runs now-WOW!!!


Jennifer went from 17 laps the last time we raced to 20 laps last night. She even mentioned how much the last couple of practices have really helped her out.....too bad she broke in the main. I'm afraid to find out how bad she beats me when we get some new battery packs for the fall series.

I really appreciate all the help you've been giving us. Last night I managed to get my first 21 laps in the 3rd qualifier. That was when I was pulling my front tire up with a fast lap of 14.028. Despite not finishing well in the main it was my best race yet. In the first lap traffic I got flipped on my lid (21 second lap followed by a 15 second) the rest of the race was consistent 14 & 13 second laps. I had never gotten sub-14 second laps and in the main I had like six or seven. I gotten taken out when I was passed by the Brushless TC3 (another 21 second lap) followed by a couple more 13 & 14 second laps. My fastest lap was #18.

Can't wait for practice next week.

Jennifer went from 17 laps the last time we raced to 20 laps last night.
Last night I managed to get my first 21 laps in the 3rd qualifier.
Can't wait for practice next week.
That's great guys. It's a great feeling isn't it? When you finally start seeing results from all the hours of car prep and practice. Although, it's a never ending saga. Once you reach one goal, there is always another. As a racer, in your own eyes, you're never quick enough. There always seems to be time that can be sliced off of laps. Soon, simple goals start becoming an obsession.

The satisfaction is all mine Brian. I was happy when in practice Jen passed me fair and square!! YOu and Jen-Marlon and Allyn-your all doing so well. Car prep and maintenance is getting better with you all too.

Dave-in 12th-I was happy to run 39 laps till Brian and Paul turned it up and ran 41 or darn close to it. So you are right-the goals are always changing and the targets always moving.

Ray, how well do those Putnam brushes work? They sound expensive, but if they produce some power... In your opinion, how well do 767's run for 1/12?
I think a lot of it comes down to batches. A good batch of 767's is hard to beat. BUt a bad batch of 767's arc really badly and eat-up the comm even at 2volts.

But at the Snowbirds-Trinity's cross serrated brush was the ticket in Sedan. At the Nats it was the Paradigm and maybe the Putnam Brushes.

I would not be afraid of trying the Putnam's, but they are expensive.

Ray

Yes, the rumors are true . . . Danny beat me . . . but only by about 10 feet. regardless if it was 10 feet, or 10 laps, it was still a win for him. 1/12 B, was the place "TO Be". Adams, Usnik, Dan and myself had an awsome race. Everyone was holding their lines and everyone had held the lead at one time or another, I also think everyone was in last place at one time or another. During most of the race I would bet we were within 5 seconds of each other, from first to last. Making a clean pass was nearly impossiable since everyone was driving THE LINE, yet all drivers showed patients and remarkable driving skills when pass attempts were made. Most passes were made when someone made a mistake. The cars, and drivers were so evenly matched it was like an IROC race. Some cars were slightly faster in the infield, and others had just a bit more pull down the straight. For the most part, it was driving skill and a little luck which determined the outcome.

I'll say it again, If you haven't come out to race 1/12 reciently, get out here NOW! You are missing some of the best racing in a LONG TIME. It's nice to get a full race day in, in about 4-5 hours. We started racing at 7:00 and were done around 10 - 10:30. If you get there at 6:00, there is time for a few quick practices to be sure the car is up to snuff, and then it's GO-TIME!

Were going to do it again in 2 weeks. It's going to be a long two weeks, with Dan reminding me of his finishing ahead of me. I stopped into Classic Service, and news of his race had spread like wildfire!

If you have a car, get out here, your missing a lot of fun.
Pete

Tell Jen I think I have a body for her. I had painted a Parma Alpha a nice shade of pink and then switched from the TC3. It still needs cut but I think I have some holes marked for mounting. I will try to remember it on Tuesday.

Pete Medved....

You had better pick up the pace. I am not sure how the bionic man surgery could affect your driving but something is going on. If you dont get moving, I am going to feel bad about picking on you. Maybe your are just feeling the effects from when I beat you with Paul's lefthanded radio?

Pete-I agree with Joneser-you used to beat Eric and I regularly-better step it up!!

BTW-My buddy Eric Anderson is now making motors and is snding me some motors to try. Monster stocks and ROAR Stocks (the binary arm in a 2-mag can). Check out his website (http://www.EAmotorsports.360k.com) . If they are rippin fast-which i think they will be-you can expect that Jimmy can get them for the hobbyshop. I can get AJ's set-up with EAMotorsports no problem.

Ray

Just letting you guys know about a few things before I get them to ebay or the for sale forum. I have a brand new in the box novak xxtra (synthesized) receiver that I can let go for 80.00 for gate people. I will also have 2 used ones that I can sell for 60.00 each. The new one will save you 15.00 or so.

the second item I have would be good for some fun or for the kids. I have a Futaba Magnum jr radio....brand new never used....it comes with a receiver and a futaba speedo. I also have a 90% built micro with BMW body...one extra BMW body, xtra set of tires and chrome wheel set. A hi-tec servo is also included. 150.00 for everything. Never been run....and have all boxes. can probably work on that price a small amount.

finally I am also thinking of selling my backup 12th scale which is a LOADED IRS rugrat. wont need anything other than electronics and tires for this car. Drop me an email or PM if you want to talk about this one.

finally #2 I will also have a Hudy Tech comm lathe for sale shortly. It may or may not include a diamond bit. Having it looked at to make sure the bit is ok. Should know within a week or so. If the diamond bit is ok, I would like to get about 150.00 for it all. No diamond bit then 110.00. Lathe is 189.00 by itself.

Stone...I do have that body for Jen.

Jimmy,
I will have the money for the GFX on Aug. 17. If you want me to pay on it before you send your order, I understand, that that is a hefty price tag. Let me now on how you want to do this.
To all the guys that had a blast last night,
It sucks to hear that I missed some good racing action. I have had this L4 for awhile, and only have two nights of practice time with it. Man, I can't wait till racing season...
Jerry

I will admit that I haven't been spending much R&D time on the car. I haven't done anything with motors, dyno, or any kind of battery conditioning this summer.

I am sure that has something to do with my times being off. Really I am just working on wheel time right now, and having a lot of fun doing so. Come Fall racing, I will be purchaing some new power plants, (perhaps I'll try some of the new motors your friend is making Ray), as well as some fresh new cells. I'm still running what I have from the summer before the indoor Champs last year. One of my two good packs is going south, and I can tell the difference.

You guys are putting in the time, and it is showing. I just hope that come fall, I am not too far behind. I'm sure there is going to be a number of people who are going to have to do some MAJOR "catching up" to those who have kept their skills and equipment sharp.

See ya in 13 days!

Pete

I sure hope you get it figured out soon! Its no fun talking smack with you if I whoop you that bad. Its bad enough in fantasy racing....now its carrying over to the track! Maybe we need to go out for some "good" food at the local establishment. Get some of them there monster crab legs. Hey....tyson is fighting next week...deja vu

Joneser-results were not uploaded last night so do you know what you ran in the 12th Main? Also what Paul and Rice ran? I think i ran 39 8:10.

I think I had a 39 8:06 in the main. I know that Chicky and Brian ran a 40 8:04 or something. Lapt times were Chicy 11.6, Brian 11.7 and I had 11.8. My best run of the night was 39 8:00

Hey guys,

Sorry the results didn't get up on the site but I did try to upload them but I got an error message so I couldn't do anything.

Jim

Can anyone tell me the advantage of using a Binary arm in a Monster can is over a regular Monster motor? Is there any benefit, or is it a bad combination to try?

ERic-thanks-looks like I got a lot of work to do in 12th scale- two laps off the pace.

Dave-I thnk its a faster motor like that. more torque and more RPM than a Monster. I do hope this is the handout motor at Champs-not the BInary.

Dave-I thnk its a faster motor like that. more torque and more RPM than a Monster. I do hope this is the handout motor at Champs-not the BInary.
Grizzley Adams, was this your little secret the other night? This is where all your horsepower came from, wasn't it?

Monster stocks and ROAR Stocks (the binary arm in a 2-mag can). Ray
Ray
Actually the EPIC Roar stock does not use a Binary arm

The Binary arm has 36 laminations and is short of the required 64" wire rule.

The Epic Roar stock has 38 laiminations and meets the min 64" wire rule

The Monster stock has 40 laminations and meets the min 64" wire rule

After comparing all 3 motors with the same watts on my Robi here are some typical results:

Binary - (Watts 126) - (RPM 36000+) - (Torque 65-70)
Epic Roar Stock - (Watts 126) - (RPM 34500 - 35000 range) - (Torque 72-76)
Monster - (126 Watts) - (RPM 32000-34000 range) - (Torque 78-82)

I like the new motor because it offers more RPM than the Monster but doesn't sacrifice as much torque as the Binary does.

And since us oval heads are not allowed to run the Binary in any events, more RPM is always good !!

always leave it up to you lefty guys to know whats what on the motors!!

Thanks for clearing that up,
Ray

Ray
Actually the EPIC Roar stock does not use a Binary arm

The Binary arm has 36 laminations and is short of the required 64" wire rule.

The Epic Roar stock has 38 laiminations and meets the min 64" wire rule

The Monster stock has 40 laminations and meets the min 64" wire rule

After comparing all 3 motors with the same watts on my Robi here are some typical results:

Binary - (Watts 126) - (RPM 36000+) - (Torque 65-70)
Epic Roar Stock - (Watts 126) - (RPM 34500 - 35000 range) - (Torque 72-76)
Monster - (126 Watts) - (RPM 32000-34000 range) - (Torque 78-82)

Dave,Im running a regular monster stock.no tricks.Its one of the extras I bought at the carpet nats this spring.Come on over and take a look at it.

I ran two different monsters tues,both the same except one had "e" brushes in it and one had 767's.If you look at my times they both performed about the same,i couldnt tell the differance.

Wow-Ray-Dave is already resorting to mind games to win on the track!! Hey-I dont care-I built one of the cars and half built the other :)

And I think your both driving GREAT right now.

Ray

Wow-Ray-Dave is already resorting to mind games to win on the track!! And I think your both driving GREAT right now.
Ray
I'll do anything to try a gain an advantage. Thanks for the compliment.

Ray or anyone else,
In the winter season what night will you guys be racing?
And how is the turnout usually for 1/12th stock?

The thing that sucks about oval is when you are talking tenths of seconds per lap every ounce of info helps, LOL

I need to come up one night and try and drive a 1/12th car. Always wanted to try it.


always leave it up to you lefty guys to know whats what on the motors!!
Thanks for clearing that up,
Ray

Erock we race on Sundays during the winter months.

Also to anyone out there who needs tires for their TC or 1/12th scale for this coming season. Right now I will be selling the following compounds and brands as listed. Check this out:

Jaco
TC Purple- $13.00/ Pair
TC PUR/ORG- $13.00/ Pair
TC DBL PUR- $13.00/ Pair
TC Pink- $13.00/ Pair

Jaco
1/12th Fronts
Purple- $13.00/ Pair

1/12th Rears
Grey- $13.00/ Pair
White- $13.00/ Pair
Pink-on the old grey rims- $13.00/ Pair

TRC
All TRC Touring Car tires in stock are $10.00 a pair.


OK Guys let me know if you want any. First come first serve basis. Limited to tires on hand. Sale will be through Aug 10th. some compunds are in very limited supply.

Stock up now!

Thanks,
Jim

By the way for those of you who have been wondering what in the world is going on with the different tire compound choices these days at the track, Purple rears and PUR/Org fronts still work fine. That is what I am running and they were good enough to do a 11.7 with. the DBL Pink/DBL Pink Orange combo also works but they just wear about twice as fast. I haven't seen an advantage to running this combination yet, I have run it and my lap times are the same. But what do I know.


Jim

GReat prices Jim.

TIres-shmires- you drove 11,8 with parts hangin off your car you didnt tighten-so we wont listen to you. You just keep driving!! :lol:

Ray

eroc-you can borrow a spare 12th scale of mne to run next Tuesday night. All you will need is a mini receiver f our not using a 75mhz Helios.

Let me know. I have everything else you will need for it.

Ray

Ray
I am not sure what my schedule is that night.
I will let ya know ahead of time.

I run a Futaba 3Pk radio and the only mini receivers I have are a Novak 75mhz XXL's
I have one Futaba version and one JR Version.

By the way for those of you who have been wondering what in the world is going on with the different tire compound choices these days at the track, Purple rears and PUR/Org fronts still work fine. That is what I am running and they were good enough to do a 11.7 with. the DBL Pink/DBL Pink Orange combo also works but they just wear about twice as fast. I haven't seen an advantage to running this combination yet, I have run it and my lap times are the same. But what do I know.


JimJimmy did you have any problem ordering what i asked for?

Jimmy you have a P.M.

Cars actually dialed into my radio-if its practice night-you can either slap one of your RX into it or you can drve on my radio.

YOu'll love it!!

Ray
Ray
I am not sure what my schedule is that night.
I will let ya know ahead of time.

I run a Futaba 3Pk radio and the only mini receivers I have are a Novak 75mhz XXL's
I have one Futaba version and one JR Version.

Jay,

The truck is on backorder and the cutter is in the california warehouse so neither will be here on Tues. You will be out of town anyways right?

Jim

Jimmy,

I'm looking to score some of those tires as well as some other consumables. (Tractions compound, etc.)

Dan and I will probably stop by this comming Tuesday.

See ya then,

Pete

Medved.....I think I figured out your problems.....You should not be consuming the tire compound!!! Stick with the water or pop.:freak:

Jimmy-do you have a Pulsar charger for sale? Do NOT order me one-just curious to pick up another one if the timings right. If not and any locals want to trade one for my 12L3-talk to me people!! I dont need three 12th scales-but I could use another Pulsar!!

Thanks,
Ray

Yes Ray I do have one $154.95

When the winter series starts, I as wondering can I still run my brushless in ther novice class but not for points I just want to run car to get to be a better driver without the huge cost of batteries and motors.

hey jimmy do you still have tires for sale . pm me if you do or post .if so when and where can i get some .

mypro4racer, Yes I still have tires 4 sale. You can get some Tuesday night from 5:30 to 10:00 at the gate.


Jim

I sold my 12L3 tonight. Its back to the trusty old Speedmerchant!!

I sold my 12L3 tonight. Its back to the trusty old Speedmerchant!!
Ray, welcome back to the Dark Side!